I like his point about men deserving to express the full range of emotions, including rage. Men are just told to suppress their emotions, particularly anger these days or they are toxic and abusive, while women can scream and ran "because their voices are not as scary".
When told "men need to be able to cry more" to cure so called toxic masculinity" I always say "If men cried, you would be crying too" If men actually were free to share their emotions and use them as drivers for change in life and politics, women would be very, very sad simply because men would no longer be shutting up and taking it.
Good piece, that. Very relevant for a lot of the posts I see on this forum. Didn't know he was still actively posting anywhere, but glad he is. A voice of reason well worth taking into account.
A good fuck? Most men want legacy, family, children much more than 'a good fuck'.
And most women, and a lot of the spergs on this forum, don;t know what a 'good fuck' actually is. They seem to think its banging some 'hottie'. That is not a good fuck.
A great fuck is having sex with a woman that actually desires and respects you. That and nothing else.
I think there’s an important distinction to make in that the primal urge to have sex is often much stronger than the more long term desire to build a family etc.
Otherwise, men would not be making so many bad decisions relating to this.
the primal urge is to reproduce. everything else is window dressing.
having a family is a subset of reproduction. Men don't just want to impregnate some skanky whore. Because we know that the offspring of single mothers are going to be worse off than the offspring that we have a hand in raising.
sex is all about the urge to reproduce - and what men actually want, deep down, is to have the best children that we can - which means choosing a woman that is not only genetically the best we can get, but is also going to be a good mother.
what women have, the thing that we need and want from them, is their ability to have and raise children. this should not be news to people. this should not be a bone of contention. a lot of feminists are in denial about this.
I mean, disagree all you want, but that glosses over a few well established facts.
Firstly, that what men would prefer to get and what men actually can get, are two very different things. Increasingly so.
Secondly that "what men actually want deep down" is in reality biologically hardwired into us based on a far distant past; a distinctly different world than today. We control our urges to an extent, do rudimentary cost benefit analyses on the go, and cognitively are able to picture culturally significant idealizations of family structure, but all this only goes so far.
Tying the second point to the first, every man makes his choices based on his biological needs relative to his current situation. I.e. having "the best children that we can", and "choosing a woman that is the best we can get AND a good mother" is only relevant to the extent that they can be achieved. The urge to reproduce is still there and will be acted upon. Expecting more from men is fair enough on the individual level, but it's a really notion based on fantasy.
First-light 3mo ago
I like his point about men deserving to express the full range of emotions, including rage. Men are just told to suppress their emotions, particularly anger these days or they are toxic and abusive, while women can scream and ran "because their voices are not as scary".
When told "men need to be able to cry more" to cure so called toxic masculinity" I always say "If men cried, you would be crying too" If men actually were free to share their emotions and use them as drivers for change in life and politics, women would be very, very sad simply because men would no longer be shutting up and taking it.
Durek_The_Bald 3mo ago
Good piece, that. Very relevant for a lot of the posts I see on this forum. Didn't know he was still actively posting anywhere, but glad he is. A voice of reason well worth taking into account.
Lone_Ranger 2 3mo ago
quite an interesting read.
He nearly gets to the point!
I think the point he should be making is this: why do men want a relationship with a woman in the first place?
Relationships come at a cost. They come at a great cost, not just financial cost.
The thing is, every cost has to have a correspondingly higher benefit, or nobody will be interested. So far so good?
Good. So the thing to realise is this: what do men want from women in the first place?
Legacy. Family. Children. A family life.
That is what men want. There is simply no other good reason why anyone should consider risking their peace, sanity or estate on a woman.
coolsocks00 1 3mo ago
You missed one: A good fuck
Lone_Ranger 2 3mo ago
yes - but....
A good fuck? Most men want legacy, family, children much more than 'a good fuck'.
And most women, and a lot of the spergs on this forum, don;t know what a 'good fuck' actually is. They seem to think its banging some 'hottie'. That is not a good fuck.
A great fuck is having sex with a woman that actually desires and respects you. That and nothing else.
coolsocks00 1 3mo ago
I think there’s an important distinction to make in that the primal urge to have sex is often much stronger than the more long term desire to build a family etc.
Otherwise, men would not be making so many bad decisions relating to this.
Lone_Ranger 2 3mo ago
I disagree.
the primal urge is to reproduce. everything else is window dressing.
having a family is a subset of reproduction. Men don't just want to impregnate some skanky whore. Because we know that the offspring of single mothers are going to be worse off than the offspring that we have a hand in raising.
sex is all about the urge to reproduce - and what men actually want, deep down, is to have the best children that we can - which means choosing a woman that is not only genetically the best we can get, but is also going to be a good mother.
what women have, the thing that we need and want from them, is their ability to have and raise children. this should not be news to people. this should not be a bone of contention. a lot of feminists are in denial about this.
I would expect more from men.
coolsocks00 1 3mo ago
I mean, disagree all you want, but that glosses over a few well established facts.
Firstly, that what men would prefer to get and what men actually can get, are two very different things. Increasingly so.
Secondly that "what men actually want deep down" is in reality biologically hardwired into us based on a far distant past; a distinctly different world than today. We control our urges to an extent, do rudimentary cost benefit analyses on the go, and cognitively are able to picture culturally significant idealizations of family structure, but all this only goes so far.
Tying the second point to the first, every man makes his choices based on his biological needs relative to his current situation. I.e. having "the best children that we can", and "choosing a woman that is the best we can get AND a good mother" is only relevant to the extent that they can be achieved. The urge to reproduce is still there and will be acted upon. Expecting more from men is fair enough on the individual level, but it's a really notion based on fantasy.
Lone_Ranger 2 3mo ago
Not sure exactly what you are disagreeing with?