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Vermillion-Rx Admin 2y ago Stickied
This isn't really Redpilled per se.
And for a lay i could see it but a "healthy relationship?" GTFO. who is this grifter never seen this channel ever.
Leaving post up despite its obvious problems so that community can respond to video.
And read this while you're at it OP
TheRedPill posting standards
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Vermillion-Rx Admin 2y ago
Because having been around TRP for years I have a very good knack for what will end up downvoted and disagreed with and how a post is completely butchering TRP
The threads aren't as good as id hoped they'd have Ben but the logic is that the value and quality of the comments will be far better than the actual post. (Sadly that hasn't happened yet)
I learned this a very long time ago in an explanation a mod left on a post long before I was a mod for why they left up a a bad post that people were complaining about. Might or might not take it down but the downvotes speak for itself
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Vermillion-Rx Admin 2y ago Stickied
If you think Jonny Depp ended up in that situation because he didn't treat her like shit you are horribly misguided. You are reducing an entire psychology to a singular solution, and that solution is dog shit, no offense.
It is a horrible idea to do this for a healthy relationship and it actually completely ignores an extremely wide range of relationship components and TRP principles and vastly misunderstands anything TRP.
It is complete dog shit. The only reason I left the post up was so people could disagree with it and provide the analysis you don't understand.
Secondly, this is the problem with guys who think they get .it but don't, is that they find some grifter online to watch and subscribe to and then make platitude posts like this without having any direct experience or analysis.
Have you tried this guy's strategy in a relationship?? If no then why are you posting his advice???
This is why TheRedPill's posting standards are as high as i described them. This post completely reads that you are parroting a random YouTuber and don't actually have may actual experience with the subject, otherwise you would have posted a detailed field report about how awesome your relationships are instead of letting another man speak for you on some no-name channel
Wyrm 2y ago
Thank you for leaving it up. A good example of crap ideology...
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Vermillion-Rx Admin 2y ago
Quote where I actually said that you troll.
All i said was deliberately breaking your girlfriend down is stupid as fuck and won't work. No one said you should tolerate disrespect.
Is English not your first language?? I'm trying to give you the benefit of the doubt before considering other possibilities
F35gaslighting 2y ago
'break a woman' yes I agree, but this require constant calibration and a lot of work, A LOT of work in case of batshit crazy bitch, hence to break a psycho woman you need psycho felon woman beater, theoretically on the opposite side you need to show fucking bunnies and a super feminine woman is broken. 'Breaking woman' sounds good in theory, but it is the same as saying 'she belongs to the streets' = psycho, because if she is psycho - cost of breaking attempt is stupidly high, MRP advocates breaking women but calls it differently. Also you sound [reading your other responses here] quite agitated and not be in the place where you can break someone in a good way.
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IDK. I have skimmed trough more of his vids and it was really hard to give him time. He is either not congruent or right out strong grifter.
In one vid he calls J Deep a pussy for not putting Amber in her place [because she is a woman and she was asking to put her in her place] and in another vid he appeals to run away from narcissists.
There was more incongruencies and terrible oversimplifications.
It could be that his vocabulary is lacking, but it doesn't change the fact his message is lacking.
Breaking a woman in other words is using tactics to make her submit. Every day the job starts from the beginning, unless someone broke her back.
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ZigZag69 2y ago
simple answer: because you can not see them
they are Schrodinger Wives, as long as they are behind closed door they are disrespecting men and not disrespecting at the same time. Your reply reveals you have skewed view. You don't know, but pretend to know. You watch this guy from video get HIS point of view and he has divisive way of selling his product. He is obviously not right, but to know that, watcher has to have some experience and not clouded judgment. Just because he is saying right slogans, means nothing. But it brings him cash, so it is fine for him.
What you see is on the street, since in average Muslim country you can have men walking with weapons, or being brutal in general, they won't risk random acts of disrespect.
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Wyrm 2y ago
I think that this is an exercise in understanding what someone is directly saying, and what little information provided is actually useful or helpful. Garbage is a general idea, but what, specifically is garbage about it is the point of TRP. The truth is in there somewhere, but if nearly the whole video is crap, then 99 out of 100 points made should be refuted.
First-light 2 2y ago
The guy in the video is talking quite a bit of of sense -women want men to be a strong authority figure. Very few would dispute this but men must be very careful these days. Making her respect you and putting her in her place is absolutely fine while she is loving it and loving you for being the big alpha guy.
However heaven help you if she is dissatisfied with some other aspect of your relationship or wants to monkey branch elsewhere. Being tough and authoritative will not always stop women from being dissatisfied in other ways. In the west today you will probably be called controlling and abusive if you get this one wrong and you could even end up in trouble with the law for laying down your boundaries.
Here is an example to scare you. These days in many western countries the woman must have access to the man's cash or it is financial abuse. Big alpha dog tells her to stop spending his money on hair cuts and clothes -he could be tried for financial abuse. I am not saying be a doormat. I am saying be scared, keep your distance and make quite sure you always know where strong and assertive ends and push and controlling begins -not in your mind but in the mind of a judge you might one day face. Never get too close in living arrangements to any woman you do not want to have children with. Never share a house with them, never share bills with them, avoid the law saying you are in a a proper "relationship" or bad things may happen when you lay down your boundaries.
Modern western life does not set men and women up to be satisfied with each other. Just remember that in blue pill world, when a woman is unhappy, it must be a man's responsibility. Don't be that guy -the one who gets shafted by blue pill world.
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First-light 2 2y ago
Wester countries are messed up. I don't know much about non Anglophone ones and this does seem to have started in the Anglosphere but this kind of thing is active in other western countries these days.
The cancer may have started in the west but it can reach far because of western leverage -look at Andrew Tate. Now to my mind he was running a grubby business that was pretty despicable but did he actually commit any crime? did he actually abuse any girls? Were they all actually making free choices? I would have said he was acting legally, even if dishonourably. However, the western concepts of abuse found him in a non western country.
Most men who are screwed over by this sort of thing don't appear in law courts because of the burden of proof required and because the laws are relatively new but a lot gets resolved by say social workers and divorce courts without trials in law courts and western state officials are big into this sort of thing.
Yes I agree, men need to wake up and stand up to this sort of thing. I only highlight this to alert and warn men. I hope men in western countries are scared. They need to be. I don't think that just ignoring the matrix and doing as you please is too wise but men need to complain the unfairness of the laws -just as all those feminists have claimed over the years. It starts with as many men as possible having situational awareness.
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First-light 2 2y ago
A wise man's courage balances on the cutting edge between fear and desire.
Be brave in the battles you can win and be wise in avoiding those you can't yet win.
You won't beat the matrix in the west today, you might avoid it of you are careful.
No-Stress-Cat 2y ago
Can you provide an example of a guy who was tried and convicted of financial abuse?
First-light 2 2y ago
Actually I know one. A former client of mine. Old guy, as solid blue pill alpha as they come. He was half gypsy -a big guy who feared no one, good fighter, hard worker, very successful business man, believed women should keep the house well and be treated like queens. Long story but after he was widowed he got an African mail order bride (well a nurse from Africa who worked locally) -with kids, post wall, should be incredibly grateful to land a high value guy. He had a system that had worked for years with his first wife where he put a few thousand in cash in a cigar box and the wife took what she needed when she needed for whatever expenses came up. He then topped it up as needed. The old wife barely touched it always saying she didn't like the system as it set no boundaries, so she was very careful not to overdo it.
With the new wife the cigar box just kept emptying -thousands on thousands just gone. Like a good blue pill guy he just kept filling it up. she was sending money back to Zimbabwe he eventually learned. He was pretty pissed off about this as it was a breach of trust and it was dishonest. So he said "what have you spent it on?" She said she did not know. He said "Ok I am going to give you whatever you think you will need for the next year, it will all be in your account so you can manage it but when it is gone, it is gone. How much do you think you need for your personal spending in a year?" She said "20K US dollars", So he transferred it straight away. 3 months later she returned "I need more money" He said "If I am to give you more, you must give me account of where that money went in 3 months" She said she could not. "in that case I do not see why I should give you more till next year"
Now it happened that a few days later they argued. She was ranting in her face and he put his hands on her shoulders and pushed her back into the chair. She called the police. He was convicted of domestic abuse, the financial and the push into the chair. I think that without the physical contact, it might not have happened but his huge generosity was actually turned against him by the use of the Duluth model where giving a woman an allowance is a sign of abuse, as is restricting her access to family money. He lost his guns. After all that the "abused" wife came back for more! He was a total sucker for it.
Check out the Duluth financial wheel here. This is aimed at serious abuse but consider how easy it would be to twist assertive behaviour into abuse as happened here; https://ccfwe.org/economic-abuse-power-control-wheel/ note things like "not letting her know about or have access to family income" _Why is it family income. He earned it, why should he tell her about it and let her have it? Its all fine until a false accusation of abuse is mounted, then simple things like this become evidence in a false accusation. This is the standard Duluth wheel. Look at how many things here that are assertive could be used as evidence against you if a false accusation of violence was mounted. https://www.socialworkerstoolbox.com/the-power-and-control-wheel-the-duluth-model/ Check out the emotional abuse section. You see guys advocating some of these things as "game"
Just be scared before you leap to assertive dominant behaviours. Its all fine till its not, then they are evidence of your being an abuser.
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Gilles 2y ago
This is the type of trash post that makes men take the red pill too literally. None of this is good advice.
Wyrm 2y ago
I think that is the point. The opinion is out there, with a little truth, but as a majority, it is crap. The objective is to be able to say WHY it is not good.
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Vermillion-Rx Admin 2y ago
Because it is a trash post. It takes an extremely broad breath of female psychology and pigeonholes it into the most memeish of ways to handle a woman.
It is so far from the nuance it deserves on an extremely dynamic subject and forcing an entire psychology into a single way of thinking as to be both misguided and autistic