Back when I used to be bluer than the Maldives, I used think profiles of such Indian chicks might be fake. You know, a bummer account made by some incel lord to piss off feminists. But after meeting such women IRL, seeing reddit posts by western women, and getting TRPed I don't think I know what's fake or real these days when it comes to women.
My first thought was 'this can't be real. Surely even foaming at the mouth feminists wouldn't say shit like this out in the open' . You think its a 'false flag' by some guy that is trolling, just for clicks. But.... I suspect its real.
The thing is, people around the world see the USA, and they copy it. They all want what the US has.
I know this isn't necessarily a helpful comment, but this shit is one reason I got a vasectomy at the expense of never being able to have my own children in the future.
No woman will ever be able to get pregnant and then claim it's mine. If that ever happens I can go run to get my $70 sperm test again and wash my hands clean of her when it it comes back sterile.
I'm not saying a vasectomy solves all of your woman problems. Its a double edged sword but paternity is so legally fucked as to be a major reason I said fuck it to ever being able to pass my own lineage through a woman
"frame some false case"? Aaron Clarey calls this a turd in the punch bowl. Now every guy in India is not going to get married. Indian women won't be getting saved by any passport bros either. They will die alone drinking cheap wine and cleaning up cat poo. You would be shocked at how many Indian guys are passport bros.
Its a massive mistake. The EU and USA are happy to decimate their local populations, and make it harder for family formation by having extreme Femocracy laws, their plan was always to make up the worker deficit with immigrant workers, that will work for peanuts and no benefits. But who is going to emigrate to India??
Yeah Japan has the same problem. Inflation is causing the US to have this problem. I live in an area with plenty of migrant workers and they shit their pants when they came out this year and saw the price of food, empty shelves, low pay. Almost exactly like Mexico. They were already committed so they stayed but next year I doubt they'll come after seeing they had little to no money to send back home. They definitely won't be looking to immigrate when houses are $450k @ 8% interest.
Yeah, the migrants will probably try somewhere else.
Japan is a special case all on its own. They were the first nation to experience serious population decline. They have the strictest immigration controls of any developed country. Basically, immigration is zero. They don't allow it. Which is odd, because every single other developed country does everything it can to encourage immigration, because they are shit scared of population decline, because it always results in stagflation and economic depression.
So, this is why Japan was the first economy to try quantitative easing (the printing of huge sums of money to try and stimulate inflation, and ward off deflation and stimulate asset prices). Of course it didnt' work, it just kicks the can down the road a bit, and fudges the numbers. To the dumb, a bit of inflation looks a lot like 'growth', esp if you get your central bank to fudge the CPI numbers which is easy to do.
This lead to the 'lost decades' of stagnation and real wage decline. Household formation dropped, and consequently birth rates fell. The economy is full of what they call 'zombie companies' - companies that are laden with debt, but can just about survive on corporate welfare and negative interest rates. They are the living dead. No growth, no innovation, no investment. The negative consequence of having the economy full of zombie is that the assets, capital and human capital is then tied up in unproductive activity. It would be far better to let the zombie companies die, then the assets and people would be re-deployed into productive companies.
When the west hit the growth buffers in 2009 - they just copied Japan - huge bailouts, ushered in a system of overt and covert corporate welfare, printed money, borrowed money, raise taxes, reduce real wages etc. And surprise surprise, we are getting the same result - stagflation is coming.
The main difference between Japan and the West is their stance on immigration. The west is addicted to the concept of very cheap labour, because they feel it increases the output of capital. The reality is that there are short terms gains, but it's more than offset by the cost of destruction to your society. The best evidence of that is recent events in France. And just have a stroll around downtown Portland, SFC, Seattle etc to see what urban decay looks like.
I'm an expat and can probably go to any country to live. I looked at Japan and talked to others who lived there. I decided to pass 20 years ago. I don't think I'd enjoy 70hr work weeks making just enough to afford a shoebox apartment. Now they've changed all their immigration laws to make it easy but nobody is biting. I just looked at jobs and they currently pay 350,000 JPY/mo($2400). As a family of four I'd need $3300. Sorry, not going to Japan.
After living in several countries, I've seen places where capital has fled to and then moved on. Indonesia used to be a big clothing exporter until China could make them cheaper. Now labor in Mexico is cheaper than China. I believe corporations are leaving China and going to Vietnam. Bangladesh and India. So China is starting to look like Detroit on steroids.
It's funny to see how all the people go along with it as they get their quality of life improved with jobs and infrastructure, only to be destroyed after all the resources are consumed and the capitalists move on. What makes it funny is the capitalists never realize they are shrinking the pool of buyers of their products. Henry Ford realized this and paid his workers enough to buy his cars. Can anybody afford a $70k truck at 6.4%? On a 10 year loan that's $800/mo. Are those cheap laborers going to be able to pay that? Migrant workers here get $18/hr and I see them all driving used beat up cars.
Here's the kicker: everywhere capitalism/industrialization goes, the fertility rate plummets. Mexico is already below replacement rates. All of South America just dipped below replacement rates. The idea that we can just keep importing people and that they will be attracted to places like Portland is wishful thinking. The idea that they will stay and buy our goods/services is also fading away. Why not just go to Taiwan? Thailand? Germany? Spain? Dubai? I can make as much in Japan as I can in the US and I don't have to look at fat people and eat crappy food. First world countries now have to compete for my highly educated, highly skilled talents. It won't be long before they're competing for low skill workers.
Funny you mention capital pivoting away from China and towards Vietnam - that was the subject of this morning's FT New Briefing podcast (I listen every morning, its only 10 mins, highly recommend).
China (and some others) are struggling with the 'middle income trap' - they have westernised, and they saw great growth from $1500 (PC GDP) up to $12000. But now they have stalled. They may even have a reduction in the coming decade, as you rightly point out, capital is sensitive to higher wages for unskilled labour, and capital can just as easily go somewhere else where labour it half price of china.
The other great oversight of these industrialising countries is that they just try to copy the west - warts and all. The west saw some big gains in PC GDP in the post war period by doing many things - two of them were a) borrowing a shit tonne of money and investing in infrastructure and b) allowing huge surges of immigration, which provided cheap labour (US, France, UK, Holland, Germany saw the influx of millions of cheap workers.
BUT....China will never get any immigration. Nobody wants to go and live in a totalitarian state with no civil liberties and a paranoid one party state secret police.
The other thing that they forget is that when you allow mass immigration, you lose support for social programs. They are currently learning this is Sweden -they used to have very strong social programs and worker protections. But immigration erodes support for free healthcare / education / sick pay etc. The locals don't want to pay for people who 'aren't like them' coming over and having 7 children and claiming child benefits so that they can sit around reading the Koran all day not working.
Oh you'll definitely like Peter Zeihan then. His youtube channel is called "Zeihan on Geopolitics". Right now we're experiencing overloaded free dental and therapy. 6 months to get in to a dentist, 3 months to get into a therapist. 99% of the people there are immigrants. The only cool park we have gets trampled and trashed by packed crowds of immigrants that come and camp all day with chairs and coverings and barbecues and dogs and kids and coolers.
China did do the infrastructure thing but they have about 200million less people than they thought. It's to the point now where they have half as many 5yr olds as 10yr olds. So they are very far along into their population collapse.
One thing Zeihan points out is that China has no resources. They import most of their raw materials, add value, and then export goods. So there's nothing special about them. It's impossible for them to industrialize without global trade and that's going away. Basically they will be forced to de-industrialize and go back to dirt poor farmers with a large elderly population.
Thanks Whytehorse, I'll go to youtube and save that for 'watch later'. I think you might enjoy the podcasts of Jim Rickards (he's generally a guest on other peoples podcasts). He was an early sceptic of China, and called it early - they are headed for a collapse.
For economics I tune into a couple sources: Prof Richard D Wolff(capitalism), China Observer(or something like that), economic ninja(housing), and I forget the rest. Zero hype, all truth.
Yeah I love how he just spits it out. It's so much more efficient for him than going around giving lectures or publishing reports for bureaucrats. I don't have 3 hours to listen to dribble drabble corporate propaganda news. 5min from Zeihan and then 5min from Denys Davydov(Ukraine war correspondent) and I'm done. What a time to be alive.
Yeah I think everything will become like this eventually. People are tired of everything going through the matrix and getting all twisted. They're also tired of repeating pieces of crap that have nothing original to say. Just a pretty face.
Lone_Ranger 2 1y ago
Presented without comment.
TRPDuryodhana 1y ago
Back when I used to be bluer than the Maldives, I used think profiles of such Indian chicks might be fake. You know, a bummer account made by some incel lord to piss off feminists. But after meeting such women IRL, seeing reddit posts by western women, and getting TRPed I don't think I know what's fake or real these days when it comes to women.
Lone_Ranger 2 1y ago
My first thought was 'this can't be real. Surely even foaming at the mouth feminists wouldn't say shit like this out in the open' . You think its a 'false flag' by some guy that is trolling, just for clicks. But.... I suspect its real.
The thing is, people around the world see the USA, and they copy it. They all want what the US has.
Typo-MAGAshiv Endorsed Contributor 1y ago
Feminism was never about fairness or equality; it always was a supremacy movement.
They aren't even trying to hide it anymore.
moorekom 1y ago
Why should they if it is the norm?
Typo-MAGAshiv Endorsed Contributor 1y ago
They have to have some inkling that at some point more and more men are going to wake up and start saying "no ma'am".
Vermillion-Rx Admin 1y ago
I know this isn't necessarily a helpful comment, but this shit is one reason I got a vasectomy at the expense of never being able to have my own children in the future.
No woman will ever be able to get pregnant and then claim it's mine. If that ever happens I can go run to get my $70 sperm test again and wash my hands clean of her when it it comes back sterile.
I'm not saying a vasectomy solves all of your woman problems. Its a double edged sword but paternity is so legally fucked as to be a major reason I said fuck it to ever being able to pass my own lineage through a woman
whytehorse2021 1y ago
You can still conceive. Might have to stick a needle in your balls to get sperm.
Vermillion-Rx Admin 1y ago
Well. Yeah, but my nuts can't be non-medically extracted by a woman for a paternity trap
whytehorse2021 1y ago
"frame some false case"? Aaron Clarey calls this a turd in the punch bowl. Now every guy in India is not going to get married. Indian women won't be getting saved by any passport bros either. They will die alone drinking cheap wine and cleaning up cat poo. You would be shocked at how many Indian guys are passport bros.
Lone_Ranger 2 1y ago
Its a massive mistake. The EU and USA are happy to decimate their local populations, and make it harder for family formation by having extreme Femocracy laws, their plan was always to make up the worker deficit with immigrant workers, that will work for peanuts and no benefits. But who is going to emigrate to India??
whytehorse2021 1y ago
Yeah Japan has the same problem. Inflation is causing the US to have this problem. I live in an area with plenty of migrant workers and they shit their pants when they came out this year and saw the price of food, empty shelves, low pay. Almost exactly like Mexico. They were already committed so they stayed but next year I doubt they'll come after seeing they had little to no money to send back home. They definitely won't be looking to immigrate when houses are $450k @ 8% interest.
Lone_Ranger 2 1y ago
Yeah, the migrants will probably try somewhere else.
Japan is a special case all on its own. They were the first nation to experience serious population decline. They have the strictest immigration controls of any developed country. Basically, immigration is zero. They don't allow it. Which is odd, because every single other developed country does everything it can to encourage immigration, because they are shit scared of population decline, because it always results in stagflation and economic depression.
So, this is why Japan was the first economy to try quantitative easing (the printing of huge sums of money to try and stimulate inflation, and ward off deflation and stimulate asset prices). Of course it didnt' work, it just kicks the can down the road a bit, and fudges the numbers. To the dumb, a bit of inflation looks a lot like 'growth', esp if you get your central bank to fudge the CPI numbers which is easy to do.
This lead to the 'lost decades' of stagnation and real wage decline. Household formation dropped, and consequently birth rates fell. The economy is full of what they call 'zombie companies' - companies that are laden with debt, but can just about survive on corporate welfare and negative interest rates. They are the living dead. No growth, no innovation, no investment. The negative consequence of having the economy full of zombie is that the assets, capital and human capital is then tied up in unproductive activity. It would be far better to let the zombie companies die, then the assets and people would be re-deployed into productive companies.
When the west hit the growth buffers in 2009 - they just copied Japan - huge bailouts, ushered in a system of overt and covert corporate welfare, printed money, borrowed money, raise taxes, reduce real wages etc. And surprise surprise, we are getting the same result - stagflation is coming.
The main difference between Japan and the West is their stance on immigration. The west is addicted to the concept of very cheap labour, because they feel it increases the output of capital. The reality is that there are short terms gains, but it's more than offset by the cost of destruction to your society. The best evidence of that is recent events in France. And just have a stroll around downtown Portland, SFC, Seattle etc to see what urban decay looks like.
whytehorse2021 1y ago
I'm an expat and can probably go to any country to live. I looked at Japan and talked to others who lived there. I decided to pass 20 years ago. I don't think I'd enjoy 70hr work weeks making just enough to afford a shoebox apartment. Now they've changed all their immigration laws to make it easy but nobody is biting. I just looked at jobs and they currently pay 350,000 JPY/mo($2400). As a family of four I'd need $3300. Sorry, not going to Japan.
After living in several countries, I've seen places where capital has fled to and then moved on. Indonesia used to be a big clothing exporter until China could make them cheaper. Now labor in Mexico is cheaper than China. I believe corporations are leaving China and going to Vietnam. Bangladesh and India. So China is starting to look like Detroit on steroids.
It's funny to see how all the people go along with it as they get their quality of life improved with jobs and infrastructure, only to be destroyed after all the resources are consumed and the capitalists move on. What makes it funny is the capitalists never realize they are shrinking the pool of buyers of their products. Henry Ford realized this and paid his workers enough to buy his cars. Can anybody afford a $70k truck at 6.4%? On a 10 year loan that's $800/mo. Are those cheap laborers going to be able to pay that? Migrant workers here get $18/hr and I see them all driving used beat up cars.
Here's the kicker: everywhere capitalism/industrialization goes, the fertility rate plummets. Mexico is already below replacement rates. All of South America just dipped below replacement rates. The idea that we can just keep importing people and that they will be attracted to places like Portland is wishful thinking. The idea that they will stay and buy our goods/services is also fading away. Why not just go to Taiwan? Thailand? Germany? Spain? Dubai? I can make as much in Japan as I can in the US and I don't have to look at fat people and eat crappy food. First world countries now have to compete for my highly educated, highly skilled talents. It won't be long before they're competing for low skill workers.
Lone_Ranger 2 1y ago
interesting post.
Funny you mention capital pivoting away from China and towards Vietnam - that was the subject of this morning's FT New Briefing podcast (I listen every morning, its only 10 mins, highly recommend).
China (and some others) are struggling with the 'middle income trap' - they have westernised, and they saw great growth from $1500 (PC GDP) up to $12000. But now they have stalled. They may even have a reduction in the coming decade, as you rightly point out, capital is sensitive to higher wages for unskilled labour, and capital can just as easily go somewhere else where labour it half price of china.
The other great oversight of these industrialising countries is that they just try to copy the west - warts and all. The west saw some big gains in PC GDP in the post war period by doing many things - two of them were a) borrowing a shit tonne of money and investing in infrastructure and b) allowing huge surges of immigration, which provided cheap labour (US, France, UK, Holland, Germany saw the influx of millions of cheap workers.
BUT....China will never get any immigration. Nobody wants to go and live in a totalitarian state with no civil liberties and a paranoid one party state secret police.
The other thing that they forget is that when you allow mass immigration, you lose support for social programs. They are currently learning this is Sweden -they used to have very strong social programs and worker protections. But immigration erodes support for free healthcare / education / sick pay etc. The locals don't want to pay for people who 'aren't like them' coming over and having 7 children and claiming child benefits so that they can sit around reading the Koran all day not working.
whytehorse2021 1y ago
Oh you'll definitely like Peter Zeihan then. His youtube channel is called "Zeihan on Geopolitics". Right now we're experiencing overloaded free dental and therapy. 6 months to get in to a dentist, 3 months to get into a therapist. 99% of the people there are immigrants. The only cool park we have gets trampled and trashed by packed crowds of immigrants that come and camp all day with chairs and coverings and barbecues and dogs and kids and coolers.
China did do the infrastructure thing but they have about 200million less people than they thought. It's to the point now where they have half as many 5yr olds as 10yr olds. So they are very far along into their population collapse.
One thing Zeihan points out is that China has no resources. They import most of their raw materials, add value, and then export goods. So there's nothing special about them. It's impossible for them to industrialize without global trade and that's going away. Basically they will be forced to de-industrialize and go back to dirt poor farmers with a large elderly population.
Lone_Ranger 2 1y ago
Thanks Whytehorse, I'll go to youtube and save that for 'watch later'. I think you might enjoy the podcasts of Jim Rickards (he's generally a guest on other peoples podcasts). He was an early sceptic of China, and called it early - they are headed for a collapse.
whytehorse2021 1y ago
For economics I tune into a couple sources: Prof Richard D Wolff(capitalism), China Observer(or something like that), economic ninja(housing), and I forget the rest. Zero hype, all truth.
Lone_Ranger 2 1y ago
just listened to his short video on Scottish independence - so much truth in 5 minutes! He's spot on.
whytehorse2021 1y ago
Yeah I love how he just spits it out. It's so much more efficient for him than going around giving lectures or publishing reports for bureaucrats. I don't have 3 hours to listen to dribble drabble corporate propaganda news. 5min from Zeihan and then 5min from Denys Davydov(Ukraine war correspondent) and I'm done. What a time to be alive.
Lone_Ranger 2 1y ago
correct. And he just does it while on his hike! legend.
whytehorse2021 1y ago
Yeah I think everything will become like this eventually. People are tired of everything going through the matrix and getting all twisted. They're also tired of repeating pieces of crap that have nothing original to say. Just a pretty face.