https://imgur.com/a/E7841pi This is my 3 day update. I killed them all:
Girl 1 I learned hammocking is too niche and didn't go straight into logistics after opener.
Girl 2 HB7.5 ignored my answer and follow up question about her schedule. Yesterday I bit the bullet and decided not to overthink sending a second and final response. I wanted to get the interactions in person so I can start gaming her that way and she can see my charisma and social proof I have on the CC campus. She was my favorite with her nice tits and all. Judging from pics, looks like the fun crazy sex kinda girl. Oh well.
Girl 3 I just straight up fumbled hard with third girl who set me up nicely. Basically repeated what she said instead of trying to go for logistics.
Girl 4 is from hinge and cancelled 90 minutes before our coffee date. Maybe her excuse is legit, but I doubt she'd cancel on Bradley Cooper. Even then, you don't have to pick up the shift. Haven't responded because I just don't care enough. It may be recoverable but I'm not sweating this match. I'll probably message again next week and not for fucking coffee. Time to find more girls with massive tits.
Although my looks still need work, SMV will increase over time so I'm not worried about that. I don't believe that's what's holding me back. A girl (HB6.5 single mommy) from math told me straight up "you look hot" when I saw and teased her about skipping math. I'm just gonna be direct about hanging out with her now. Side question, think she'll let herself get pregnant a second time, and by me? A big issue has already been outlined by many of you here, my tendency to overthink. By not overanalyzing the situation my game will naturally improve. My text game needs a ton of work and I think I'm just coming across as too nice for these bitches. Sweet nice guy coffee dates and spending time talking may work for my older bro, but not for me at this stage. It's not my SMV, it's my game.
Vermillion-Rx Admin 1y ago
From seeing your text game over months of field reports, you need some serious overhaul to your text game. It is not captivating or involves shooting yourself in the dick for no reason
There are also times where you either just are not suggesting fun dates or in that one case you had coffee set up and then just changed the plans on her out of the blue.
Your text game has not improved since we first started commenting on it
My old tinder thread on how to do these convos on here was bookmarked on my old phone so I don't know where it is anymore. I have commented it on numerous tinder posts here
But the brutal truth is your text game is very bad. It doesn't take Shakespeare to have good text game, but two interesting sentences should do
I don't have any good resources besides that comment thread I made and I can't find it
Edit: found it
https://www.forums.red/p/asktrp/299826/game_on_tinder/7291214
imtranscending 1y ago
You're assessment is exact. It never improved compared to my areas of game. Isn't that a little odd, I understand I have less practice with this, but I'm lacking that mental shift on this or something.
That was after she ignored my message. I went for a last ditch effort after that to lock down meeting in person so I can game her to my strengths. Maybe not the best move in hindsight, but meeting on campus is already low investment.
I agree my text game is stunted and atrocious. Just saw how detailed and lengthy your link is, I'm excited to read and internalize it.
Vermillion-Rx Admin 1y ago
Texting and talking have a lot of overlap but are different in a lot of ways
90% of communication is non verbal, so you have to make your written communication spike emotion
You could say the most boring text like verbally and wet some panties with the right tone and excitement but if it's texted you're fucked.
You have to text differently than you'd ever speak because text lacks speech's tonality and emotional attributes
I understand why you'd try to change plans but the double text hurts you and makes you look insecure. The plans were either boring or she had something better to do or wasn't even invested in you enough to even cancel like a decent person
You're welcome, You'll get there man, I am saying that as a literal autist who now pulls and gets dates
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Peter_Henderson 1y ago
Pretend you have a second chance, what would you have sent as your 2nd message if you were given a second chance? Would you have actually gone straight into logistics on your 2nd message if you had it to do over again?
I'm sorry you made her remember her deceased parents.
I would have used a different emoji (Smiling Face with Open Mouth and Tightly-Closed Eyes Emoji)
The emoji you used stopped working quite as charmingly around June or July of last year.
Online dating is brutal and the flaking/ghosting is nightmarish. At least she apologized to you and was straight-up about it (she owned her failure to adhere to an obligation she committed to) which is kind/thoughtful of her. Out of these 4 picks, I think you have the best chemistry with #4. Don't give up on her, give her another chance.
imtranscending 1y ago
I think I should do that, so I'd respond with "alright, sounds like you're my tour guide for this saturday"
To also repeat what has already been said, my message in of itself just like me throwing the ball back to her and not actually hitting it. I'm honestly stumped on what to respond to that message, shooting for logistics can be good. "You'll see what I mean this Friday"
You're absolutely correct, and I'm not even top 20%SMV of men out there. I will hit her up again and it's been 4 days since she sent that apology. I don't wanna be overthinking this, but it seems every text I send is a bomb going off killing any attraction. Do I say "Np" now or when I'm ready to message her back and reschedule? Should I just ignore apology and go straight for the rescheduling. Fuck coffee, I need to meet her on campus and get this off of the damn app.
Peter_Henderson 1y ago
I'm an expert on some TRP stuff but I'm polite/respectful enough to admit when I'm the wrong person to ask. The other gentlemen of TRP are much better at "text game" than me so I don't want to give you poor-quality advice.
Initial-Glove 1y ago
Get off Tinder.
Women on Tinder only want matches and attention. You're not gonna have luck on there meeting someone decent to screw you.
IRL. Get off Tinder. Get out of the house.
Peter_Henderson 1y ago
Are the other online dating sites any good? Such as Hinge?
Initial-Glove 1y ago
No. Get off of all of them.
Go outside.
Touch grass.
Then touch some ass.
coolsocks00 1 1y ago
There's much more help in checking out youtube content for things like tinder. Check out the channel Playing With Fire and watch some of the popular relevant vids like how to take better pics, how to open/close etc.
Do cold approach and parties meanwhile.
imtranscending 1y ago
Good advice, I'm still cold approaching when I feel good but will up the numbers a bit.
kv2_0833 1y ago
Yeah man it's honestly like a sole numbers game in OLD, the conversation is just a facade, they already swiped on you for your looks. Literally just 1-2 messages showing you're not autistic & not beta, then straight into logistics. You shouldn't even know their name until you have a date planned, don't let some rando you don't know take up headspace for free
imtranscending 1y ago
yeah, I can clearly demonstrate that in person but my text game is a huge flaw rn
kv2_0833 1y ago
Hmm I know that feel. What about it would you say is flawed?