Beware, long post.
Basically, I had been screwing this girl off of Tinder - I didn't perform greatly. I had moved to Berlin from Melbourne AUS on a working-holiday visa and hadn't been laid in 2 years. I made her cum the first night with my hands but my penis could not get hard. I accomplished this by placing my arm over her neck while I rigorously fingered her - she admitted she had only gotten off from another guy who had done a similar thing and made her feel unable to "escape". Nevertheless, we saw each other multiple times throughout the week before I left for two weeks to go visit a friend in London.
When I returned, she wanted to hang out and we would share a bed but she did not make the same advances as she did in the week I had met her. She just wanted me to spoon/aftercare. She admitted to having slept with her ex-boss while I was away, which I didn't really care about as we weren't declared exclusive, but it'd seemed any desire she had to fuck me was gone. I still don't understand why she sought to invite me over under the pretence of sex only to watch movies and cuddle... On the second night, she called me "attached", even though it was her idea for us to meetup, and "predictable". I left her apartment then and their, resolving to walk the streets of Berlin near winter then spend another second next to someone who is going to treat me so lowly.
Given that many of our previous conversations revolved around the dominance play, enjoyment of forced sex and rape fantasies, did she want me to try to take her? This didn't really register at the time and I figured she just fell out of attraction because she managed to get a lay from her ex-boss that was avoiding her - ergo I decided to skidaddle - but was she testing to see if I'd go for it?
Not that'd I'd risk it. She was cute but not worth risking a 15 year felony charge.
Scorpion69_ 2y ago
"I still don't understand why she sought to invite me over under the pretence of sex only to watch movies and cuddle"
she fucking invited u to cuddle and watch movies, which fucking gives you the window to make your move, which is what she obviously wanted.
she then called you predictable, because 99% of men are faggots who wont make a move.
NeoSpartan 2y ago
Do you never make a move unless they explicitly ask you to or something? The first thing was obviously the ed, but the second was you seem to have not even tried to do anything with her during netflix and chill? Of course you are boring, next time escalate. You wont get a rape charge, that's silly, you shouldn't go straight for it anyway. Start small and work your way up. She wanted you to make a move obviously. "Predictable" "Boring" means you are skittish and unmanly. Next time don't be a pussy and start escalating physically with a girl that invites you to her place for netflix that you've already had sex with.
hayden 2y ago
"skittish and unmanly" I'm 6'4" and blasting 500mg Test E with Masteron and Anavar. The guy she's fucking is way smaller than me. I fucked her and called her a slut on the second night I saw her. Maybe I didn't make the timeline clear enough for the likes of you:
Final Week in Berlin 26/10/2021 - 02/11/2021, I meet this girl on Tinder, we hook up four times in that week. I had total ED the first night, and yes, she had ASKED me directly that to "fuck me". I pinned her neck with my arm as I vigorously fingered her and she came multiple times. The second night I had mild ED (I tied hairties to my cock to keep the blood in while I railed her doggystyle), the third night we fucked again and it was more of less the same. On the fourth night she was on her period so we did not fuck and just spooned, which I was OK with.
Return to Berlin for a Week 15/11/2021 - 23/11/2021, I see her ONLY on the weekend and she says that she fucked her ex-boss, the aforementioned manlet, she then says she's too tired on the 20/11/2021, then on the 22/11/2021, she tells me sex wasn't gonna happen, that I'm predictable and that I'm attached - even though both of those times it was HER idea to hang out.
But hey, guess I'm skittish and unmanly because I refused to put up with her bullshit and chose to walk sub-0 temperatures than put up with her bullshit. Temperatures I'm not used to because I'm originally from fucking Queensland.
NeoSpartan 2y ago
Just next her if she is annoying then, she sounds like she just wants fuck buddies and maybe that's not your thing, it's not my thing either. But damn dude, yur sensitive... you should work on that, it's part of your problem. I'm just some internet rando to you don't get so offended, it's weaksauce shit.
Anyway, I'm a manlet too, I think how attractive height is is probably overstated, but it can probably mitigate lack of muscularity to some degree. Last girl I fucked was taller than me. Confidence and leadership is much more important than anything else though once you get past the initial attraction stage.
hayden 2y ago
Look I'm sorry for chewing your head off, I don't like being accused of being a pussy, even if it is by some rando on the internet... but I take ownership in the fact that I didn't present the information clearly enough. I am avoiding her. I will probably return to Berlin in Summer 2022 and hit her up with the explicit expectation that I want to fuck - if not - I'll meet others. I should be through my first cycle and have cut by then... I'm just pissed she called me "predictable" and I kinda wish I did go for it... because you're right, I probably wouldn't cop a rape charge.
I do think height & physical frame is extremely important. I only have an average, or maybe a slightly above average, face, and I doubt I would receive any attention if I wasn't my height/build. Personally though, I'd love to smash a girl that is taller than me.
NeoSpartan 2y ago
Hey no worries, I don't take anything personal on an anonymous internet forum. Well avoid her all you want, plenty of fish out there, and she sounds a bit nuts. Yeah you probably wouldn't, but she sounds a bit damaged really, I'd find a diff girl if I were you, but that's just me. I'd also start looking now, abundance mentality is very good advice.
I've never been tall so I wouldn't know, I think I do pretty well at 5'6, I do have broad shoulders, am moderately handsome and put on muscle easy though. But lol, gl with that at 6'4. I'll tell you from experience tho, it's better when they are shorter. I only did that because I was using tinder and most girls don't put their heights, with other apps I set my prefs to about 2-3 inches shorter than me. It's bit awkward tbh, good thing I lift because I had to carry that girl like 50 feet in the nude because of some footwear issues while skinny dipping. Right now I'm dating a girl who is like 4'11 I like her height much better XD. I think for a wife I'd want a girl only slightly shorter than me though, wanna give the tots as best a shot as I can since inheriting looks is a bit of a crapshoot.
hayden 2y ago
I take your point about height. If you're short/average but jacked, you'll still do better than a tall and lanky person - but a tall and muscular person is probably the optimal body type. Anyway, in Europe there are quite a few girls over 6'4", particularly in Germany and the Netherlands. I assume you're in the states, where such a girl would be a unicorn. I'd particularly want to wife a taller girl for the sake of my tots.
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hayden 2y ago
Dude, you can't even transition from tinder/bumble to IRL, you're not in a position to give anyone advice.
NeoSpartan 2y ago
Right, it's not hard. OP seems very henpecked and soy to me. Don't listen to the meetoo crap that is dumb, listen to a girl's body language. Explicit verbal consent is something that only virgins believe in. Do that, and her panties will dry up faster than the Sahara.
hayden 2y ago
"henpecked and soy"
She literally told me "sex wasn't going to happen tonight". Was I suppose to just take her?
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NeoSpartan 2y ago
I think what you are saying is, most girls don't like leading during sex. Which is true. Yeah, just stay away from the crazy ones and you don't have to worry about any weirdness like that. Also, just work your way up, if she stops you, relent, try and get her more horny and give it another shot. Girls like sex, you just gotta get them in the right mood, which really isn't hard.
Reddit is indeed terrible.
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NeoSpartan 2y ago
HAHAHA XD Thanks for that image. It's pretty much what I'd imagine the dudes on reddit would do lmao.
mattyanon Admin 2y ago
Urgh.... "i've fucked someone else and don't want to fuck you now". Urgh. Fuck that shit.
Because she invited you over under the pretence of sex so that you would watch movies and cuddle. You have answered the exact question with that statement. This is very, very normal female behaviour. Flirt to get what they want, get what they want, and then deny all responsibility for the initial flirting. It happens to all of us, and you should NOT put up with it.
"You lied to me, and lying is unacceptable to me from an intimate partner, goodbye".
What the fucking fuckity fuck? Ditch this nutter immediately.
Good!
I don't think so....... I think she figured that you're not the kind of guy who will give her that and put you in the beta category, then treated you accordingly. Along with lying and misleading to boot.
Exactly.
Full dominance play is reserved for carefully vetted partners and circumstances.
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hayden 2y ago
"considering OP didn't try to get past her ASD or LMR"
Uhh, what?
We already fucked? You're a fucking idiot. ASD & LMR is for women who haven't had sex with a person before. We fucked multiple times in the week leading up to my departure. I had her on all-fours and I hit her from behind while calling her a slut and a cunt, and she loved it. Unfortunately, I wasn't able to maintain an erection for all too long and it's probably from the 500mg Test E I was blasting. I used her hair ties as a makeshift cockring.
I also made her cum with my hands multiple times.
I tried what was working the first few nights and she was rebuffed my advances. It's very frustrating because she wasted two of the return-trip I spent in Berlin. I would have been better off in a hostel.
BUT I tell you what I will do. Next time I am in Berlin, be it 3-6 months from now, I'm just gonna call her up, tell her that she isn't worth a relationship and just ask her for sex. I should be through my first cycle by then too so no issue with my soldier standing at attention. And even if she doesn't go for it, having some muscular definition on 6'4" frame should help me find someone else within days. I met this girl within days of using Tinder.
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hayden 2y ago
I did get it up the second and third time we fucked and there was penetration. You also have no clue how AAS works. My Aromatase Inhibitor is nuking my estrogen and I couldn't get a lighter AI in the UK, so my erections have been wildly unreliable.
You're sooo cute when you're angry. I bet you're like 5'4".
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hayden 2y ago
Maybe you do have a point. I was trying what worked the first few times - maybe I should have been more assertive in my approach.
mattyanon Admin 2y ago
Yeah, they do. Often "cuddles" is a euphemism for "cuddles and see where it goes", but sadly sometimes cuddles is just cuddles.
Thing about this girl is that he was with her before and it went great. Then it was "cuddles only".
Yeah, agree with this. If he doesn't even try, he doesn't know what's on the table.
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