Drama is the ability to create chaos out of thin air. It is the female secret weapon against their physically stronger male counterparts.
A female who gets cornered by a male is doomed. The only responses available to her are psychological responses. If she tried to be Wonder Woman she'll only succeed in dying faster.
Women learned from an early age that if they show signs of distress, males in her life will drop everything and tend to her until her distress is gone.
Women also learn that the more attractive they are, the more investment they can get out of the male by simply being distressed. They'll also learn quickly afterwards that the distress doesn't even have to be real. They can quite literally manufacture distress and get males to invest.
And so they do. And they get quite good at it, especially the attractive ones. A lot of these drama masters go on to use their skills in the workplace to get promotions into roles that they're completely unqualified for.
There are many tools for creating drama, including, but not limited to:
- giving and withdrawing attention, aka push/pull
- being passive aggressive
- gossiping
- nagging
- crying at you - this is to get you to stop holding her accountable for shitty behaviour
- fake ultimatums - threatening to leave etc
- any shit test
These tools of the trade have one thing in common - they are designed to wear you down psychologically. Women rarely go on all out frontal attacks to win battles cleanly and decisively. That is the domain of men. Women prefer to chip away at the target bit by bit over long periods of time.
Any man who has cohabited with a nagging woman will understand this chipping away effect. Women's snarkiness is designed to hurt you while providing them plausible deniability. You know the statements were intended for you but you can't prove it. Directly confronting her about it will only make you seem like the bad guy.
The downfall of the high value man is in thinking that he is strong enough mentally to withstand this consistent onslaught of drama. Don't kid yourself. No man is that strong. For women it is natural. They can do this all day.
The only real antidote for drama is the withdrawal of attention. This is why plates are more likely to behave better than the average girlfriend. They know they need to win your attention from other women. This is also why dread game works, and always will. If you have other women in your life and she knows it, she'll be less likely to dish out drama.
In the current climate, the feminine imperative is primary. Throwing drama is being marketed as "communication". A man has to put up with unnecessary drama because that's how couples "communicate", but if a man complains about not getting enough sex, suddenly that's his problem.
Consent has to work both ways. If the woman in the relationship does not consent to having physical sex, then the man also does not have to consent to being psychologically "communicated to" against his will.
The RP man has to always be aware of the drama games happening around him, and react accordingly. In plate situations, it's simple enough to soft next every time drama happens. In the workplace, it's a bit more complicated. You have to play the game a bit to avoid being trampled on. If you decide to cohabitate with a female, then bless your heart.
The other tool for handling drama is game. Game is basically psychological martial arts where you use the strength of the opponent's drama against them. Eg agree and amplify takes their drama and blows it way out of proportion so that they will look stupid if they try to pursue it further, thereby defusing the drama and also giving them tingles at the same time.
For newbies who are not familiar with this psychological judo, the best starting point is to withdraw attention every time you sense a female trying to wear you down psychologically. Once that habit is ingrained, you can move on to try to turn their own drama against them. Mastering this takes time, so go easy on yourself, and get the basics down.
35T3B4N1990 2y ago
I’ve been going through this for over a year with a girl at work, the constant push and pull and trying to make each other jealous. I started to forget about school and missed a test and right now I just don’t feel like messing around with girls and going monk mode. She tried to make me jealous with some other dude last week but I just gave her a look of total disdain because at that point I was beginning to withdraw everything. Later during the day she was hovering near me and she looked like she was about to cry but of course I didn’t comfort her, just tired of this
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Nootropianism 2y ago
Good to find a fellow man who won't stand for bullshit. "Agree and amplify" is about the most beta shit I can think of, and the fools here hamster themselves into doing it because they're desperate for pussy.
I don't give a shit how many women I have to leave in the dust in order to find a single one who isn't utterly fucking obnoxious. I've found a few, and I'll make sure to convert a few more before my time's done by leaving them with something to ponder in my absence.
If a random cunt on the street disses me, I'm either going to ignore it or he's going to regret it, depending on the power differential. Why would I make an exception for something as useless as a modern woman?
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Nootropianism 2y ago
Exactly. Very well put re: agree and amplify. Can't believe these guys here don't see it for what it really is, as generally things here are spot-on.
Have you found any effective ways to remain stoic in the face of this travesty of a gender dynamic? Just eats at my core and I want to start a revolution.
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Mood_Tricky 2y ago
Thats tough. You’ll want to avoid letting the kids see something like that. It sounds like a potential setup on her part if your kids feel that energy directed at them somehow. If they’re young they might sympathize with their mom and see it as their father willing to break up the family. I know they are important so its a tough situation when kids are involved. But its true, creating/defending your own happiness is vital. I imagine in a situation like this you can’t play into her emotional games and must redirect her like a judo master.
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Flesh_Pillow5 2y ago
You're an animal. I love and appreciate it.
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LastRedshirt 2y ago
their biggest weapon is also their biggest flaw. Everytime, I hear a woman talking about her abusive and evil relationshipS, I know, that she need the drama in her life. Also if she talks badly about her actual boyfriend or husband etc. she loves that he creates drama - she is addicted to it.
apoplexis 2y ago
Also, if she says, every relationship was like that is a huge red flag for me.
Here4th3culture 2y ago
“For newbies who are not familiar with this psychological judo, the best starting point is to withdraw attention every time you sense a female trying to wear you down psychologically.”
Honestly the best advice you could give a newbie. Take notes if you’re just swallowing the pill
Nootropianism 2y ago
As soon as you realize that you don't actually need to have sex unless you want to have kids, you find yourself perfectly free. Sex is a complete waste of time, and 99% of modern women cannot provide anything interesting to you besides sex.
Burn through as many as you possibly can until you find one who isn't completely worthless (i.e. she can handle cooking, cleaning, and leaving you the fuck alone). They're out there, trust me, and their rarity makes them all the better.
And don't jerk off, either. Keep it together; you're more than an ape with a dick.
Bamboleo1988 2y ago
You are living the Semenretention life!!!
12inchbamboo 2y ago
Having mastered the dark traid traits from illimitable men blog, I now find women manipulative tricks being easy to determine and counter.
Love bombing then a soft next, cutting attention, agreeing and amplying their shit tests, causing intentional dramas.. That's what keep them emotionally invested in you. The more emotionally invested she is, the less drama she caused but shit test never ceased.
__Lord_of_Light__ 2y ago
I disagree the more emotionally invested the less drama. The more emotionally invested the longer she will stick around, but you will get MORE drama not less from a girl having feelings for you
throwawayburner2021 2y ago
The crying technique is so common, and yet so childish, annoying, and disappointing.
LastRedshirt 2y ago
I have a coworker in the callcenter I am working for the last 13 years. I never had a problem with customers (well, you can't ignore angry/yelling customers, but its usually basic stuff). She is in the company for 11 years now. And most of her calls end in her hanging up, yelling, SOBBING! For a few years, I was interested in her, but when I went out with her, I realized, that her life is pure drama-driven (everyone in the world hates her, her sister is way more successful than her) ... so I stopped. And yet, even after 2 years, when I see her in the office, she walks around, staring at me like the Great White Shark from her black lifeless eyes ...
throwawayburner2021 2y ago
Could be a narcissist.
My “mother” had the black eyes when I’d catch her staring at me, predatory, randomly. And she’s the most abusive person I’ve ever met.
LastRedshirt 2y ago
yes, very much.
She is also socially inept, learned "how I talk to people" from a very expensive virtual retreat from a well known "How to learn to become a woman of a very rich man"-motivation speaker. I try to feel sad, but nah.
Flesh_Pillow5 2y ago
Gaddamn your mother? How did you turn out?
throwawayburner2021 2y ago
Given your post history, I'm not replying. Troll.
Flesh_Pillow5 2y ago
Don't know why that's relevant to the matter at hand but okay..no bother lol
upranav 2y ago
What books would you suggest for getting to know this psychological martial arts?
Jimboslim 2y ago
I’m also interested in the answer to this question.
KurLover 2y ago
I believe one thing helps and that’s ways on how to be calm during situations like these on a day to day basis. Picking up techniques from the Stoics could help for example.
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Mood_Tricky 2y ago
Not redpill or relationship advice but there is a ex police officer named George Thompson that taught verbal judo for the streets. I listened to some of his stuff on YouTube and he has a great presentation style explaining how to respond to potentially hostile situations
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PLooBzor 2y ago
No book is going to help when you're getting emotionally triggered.
You have to get more women in your life and learn through experience.
upranav 2y ago
PLooBzor, a book contains multiple experiences & epiphanies of the author. You can learn from someone else's experience as well if you pick one.
PLooBzor 2y ago
Rational Male by Rollo Tomassi is the only book I recommend.
zino193 2y ago
I think this is only a issue if the relationship is on the wrong path.
If you enter in any relationship - because it pleases her - you fucked. It's just a matter of time, and your loss aversion between suicide and breakup.
Now, supposedly - you are a red pill aware man, and don't enter relationships to fuck with strings attached. (sorry for my Married red pill men out ther with kids - this won't apply probably)
Drama is actually a narrative driven by a woman. Narratives are rationalizations to bridge the gap between our behavior and our feelings. If you do not have a congruent narrative of who you are - she won't understand why she is with you. Her friends won't have a explanation and push her to drop the <standard arsehole> that stole her friend from the circle of complaining about men.
That drama is pushing you to find out who the hell you are, so she can figure out why she is there. It's better to be a loser, drug addict, trapper with depression - so she can then play the Mother Theresa savior in her mind - than to be Average Joe, makes 6 figures, and works all day with pipes - that has no expectations from his woman besides have food and have sex.
She doesn't understand what her role is in Joe's life. Is she just a sex object? Is he her Dom? Father of ther future kids? You can be anything, but by being nothing specific - she doesn't know what her opinion is of the relationship and what that says about her. High esteem women - like christian and easter europeans will use Joe's blank slate model of the relationship and create her own - and then nudge you into that role. Congrats, you're a traditional provider. Low self esteem women will either use the model of - he only wants me for sex - which is kinda true because he isn't giving anything else to the relationship... or worse - be trapped in a decision paralysis and permanently confused of who she is and push her neurosis on you and give you drama.
Always be clear who you are, and always reinforce with the full risk of losing her what you like about her, and what you don't on a case by case basis. Remember - you do not need to explain or have a reason - you not liking something is sufficient.
For advance guys in the brain jujitsu - Always make it clear what you want and know in advance what she can do and what you want from her. A compliant girl(that wants to be with you obv) will jump at the opportunity to mold herself to who you want her to be. A cunt will start arguing, and negotiating then and there... opening up the door for you to exit elegantly, respectfully and with dignity for both parties.
Educational_Past1705 2y ago
Holy shit there is so much truth in this after i went through my first LTR
AbundantKaizen 2y ago
Great comment, thanks for sharing.
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Suspicious-Factor466 2y ago
Any books on how to be a dom?
Or fwb situation
zino193 2y ago
Not the subject - and a very wrong question to ask.
Let me make this clear - you can not learn to rip the neck of a chicken from a book. This is similar for BDSM, parenting or red pill relationships that require you to be cruel and shut down your empathy. And do what you must, not what you feel.
The definitive literature on this is written by 2 feminist hippie academics. Easton and I think Hardy. Trigger warning - if you can't help but boild when you hear feminism - these broads are not for you.
For BDSM read The new book of topping.
For FWB and polyamory talk - I recommend reading and memorizing whole passages from The Ethical Slut.
I genuinely recommend you do and suck at it rather than read and create whole wide branching narratives that might not vibe with your average bartender with a impact play kink. These women discuss the ideal situation and in true female fashion ignore the gritty reality of these relationships.
bigdudecfc 2y ago
There's a contributor named woujo...look him up,his content should help.
f0reveral0new0lf 2y ago
What if she's the one withdrawing attention like hot and cold. Ex. she's seeing someone and when it's not working to the guy she'll be hot again with you and when she saw a better prospect she'll be cold again to you.
How to punish this behavior?
Snoo-66539 2y ago
You have to just take the L and leave her, this takes you away from your mission as you’ll begin to waste time pondering on how to win silly social battles, if you’re really petty just date a more attractive woman and make sure the ex knows about it
MrNeverDryDick 2y ago
What always worked for me is to fix this situation yourself. If she can’t decide if she’s cool with you or not, make it easier for both of you and just not be cool. You don’t have time to be figuring out where you stand with someone every day.
Don’t play the “are we friends or not” game. Take ownership of the situation and just don’t be friends with her. Watch that hamster reach overdrive.
roomrider 2y ago
Glad to see quality content again
Itshardtofindanametf 2y ago
Didn’t understand this part, can someone explain
NoFapTillIDie 2y ago
Learning how to deal with shit test, (when they’re trying to take you on a guilt trip or make you jealous) instead of rewarding this shitty behavior just agree and amplify, reflect it back to her or just ignore her. There’s no shortcut for this and you can only learn game through practice.
Nice post OP.
Ask_For_Cock_Pics 2y ago
For every argument she makes towards you, every crazy rationalization, there's a predictable and logical way to defend yourself or argue back. Men like to install reason when faced with the illogical. Having this game is knowing that by doing that, you are responding exactly the way she expects you to and has already prepared herself for.
Instead respond back equally illogically, whether it's ignoring the main subject and pretending to be be angry at a ridiculously insignificant detail, or responding with a completely different emotion than expected; turning the entire framing of the drama upside down. To do this you need to be able to think on your feet and remain completely unphased.
A good formula for this is to imagine what a serious response to the drama would be and mock it.
__Lord_of_Light__ 2y ago
this is good advice, but bro who has time for this?
I make $200k a year.i dont have the time to be playing games with females. and any guy who does is a bum an should be focused on getting his money up instead
Seneca_13 2y ago
I think its the process that instills not only awareness of the minefields dangers, but also the knowledge and skill to traverse it unharmed. This is why so many people who are supposedly aware or redpilled will so often get divorce raped or screwed over anyway, because they do not realize that even though the unicorn they think they have found is different from other modern women, she is still a woman and will do what her biological imperative compels her to do.
That 200k a year puts a target on your back after all, no only from devious women who seek to benefit from it freely, but from the government who seek to assist these women in doing so.
The actual process teaches you how to effectively traverse the minefield, track and identify the mines and also the skill to fully disarm the mines. Ignoring the process leaves you with only the awareness that the minefield is filled with dangerous mines and should be avoided.
saruin 2y ago
Why play the game when you've already won?
Mood_Tricky 2y ago
I know I’ll find some examples in life, but if someone can share an example under this post it would be very informative.
Ask_For_Cock_Pics 2y ago
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these aren't perfect examples, but look How Ryan's character changes the energy of the scene first by screaming "what", then telling her she's crying like a baby: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSYQD1BBx7I
Another real life example is this moment with Russell brand against reporters who were trying to discredit him, but he completely dominates with subversion: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sj6JdXvsWYM
dognose 2y ago
Russell show so much teeth and such eye contact.
_ChairmanLmao_ 2y ago
And men don't have to do anything at all to get promotions into roles that they are completely unqualified for, lmao
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KCStinger 2y ago
This is GEM. Thanks for compiling it. I've always observed it. If you roast and correct a man then he'll try to understand the reason and make amendments, do the same to a woman with even half intensity and they'll somehow assume that it's because of gender like women are perfect.
This is GEM. Thanks for compiling it. I've always observed it. If you roast and correct a man, then he'll try to understand the reason and make amendments, do the same to a woman with even half intensity, and they'll somehow assume that it's because of gender like women are perfect.
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RedditSlayer2020 2y ago
I laughed at psychological communicated to.
Nice read but whats a plate? I totally agree with all what you wrote. Women are master of manipulation and gaslighting. Personally im tired of it. If some girl tries it im like. If you aint happy just leave.
comcain 2y ago
Read the Sidebar to learn about plates and spinning them.
Cheers