The below is a copy of my Reddit post. Since TRP might get banned any day now, just thought to post it here for posterity.
EDIT: The point of this post was to encourage men to create a female account on Tinder depicting a woman who you yourself will refuse to even Plate.
Even if you're red pilled, seeing this woman get matched with and messaged by Chads is an experience that is indescribable.
Even if you're over 6 feet tall, have an excellent profile, and are one of the few men to get 100+ matches per day, I still encourage it.
My personal experience using Tinder:
I tried Tinder in NYC for 2 months, and got a total of 24 matches after filtering out bots and the obese.
For swiping, I liked every profile without even looking at them until I reached the quota for the day.
You get 50 swipes per 12 hours. Over 60 days, that is (50260=) 6,000 girls.
Out of these 6,000 girls, only 78 matched with me. That is a success rate of 1.3%. For reference, I make over $100k/year, live in a luxury condo in Manhattan, and am in decent shape, albeit with average looks, and below average height. I shudder to imagine what the median man gets.
Anyway, from these 78, I culled the bots and the obese (200lb+).
Of the 24, most of them were HB6-7, with 3 HB5 and 2 HB9. Of the women who matched with me, only (24/78=) 30% were non-obese.
Ignored the 3 HB5 girls, and messaged the other 21. These 3 girls had pretty faces, but were slightly overweight. I prefer skinny girls. But still kept them in the sample, because while I reject them, men who prefer thick girls will not.
Out of 21 girls I messaged, ended up sleeping with 6 of them, including both the HB9.
In percentage terms, 6/6000= 0.1%.
In hindsight, I find a few things baffling. Apart from the 2 HB9, the other 4 girls I slept with were all high end of HB7.
All the HB6 girls either never replied or stopped replying.
5 girls messaged me first. 3 HB5 and 2 HB9. Obvious why a 5 would message me first, but was surprised when both HB9 girls messaged first as well.
Of the HB9 girls, one was a visiting Australian and the other was a local actress (bit parts in several TV shows).
The Experiment:
I was chatting with a coworker, and she casually mentioned that she gets 100+ matches per day. She has an okay face but is slightly overweight, so the number seemed too high. So the next morning before heading to the gym, I created a fake female profile to test it for myself.
For the profile pics, I chose an 18yo mediocre overweight girl, and before I could even start on the Bio section, I started getting likes.
I decided to leave the Bio section blank and went to shower, and started getting ready. By the time I checked the app again before heading out, it showed 99+ likes. In less than 30 minutes, it had over 100 matches.
After work that day, I opened the app back up, and started swiping right on just the Chads (tall, muscular, handsome) to make sure that the matches weren't inflated. To my shock and horror, almost every Chad I swiped right on was already a match.
Again, this is a mediocre girl who on her best day is a HB5.
Worse, after matching, these Chads immediately start messaging, so it's clear that they weren't just spamming likes and maxing out the quota like I was.
I had already known that women have it much easier than men, but seeing it in person was particularly disheartening.
Again, I make over $100k/year, live in a luxury condo in Manhattan, and am in decent shape, albeit with average looks, and below average height.
Even with my background, I only got 2 HB9 (equivalent to male Chads) while a girl who I wouldn't even consider as a plate is getting messaged by 100+ blue-pilled Chads.
Going through this experience clarified some things and muddied some others.
If even mediocre girls are getting spammed matches from Chads, it makes sense why I only got 24 matches in 2 months. On the other hand, why did the 2 HB9 choose me over the 100 Chads?
This whole experience above was in early-2019. Last week, I introduced my brother to the Red Pill and told him to create a fake female profile to let him realize just how much the deck is stacked against men. This was immensely helpful in shattering his blue-pill delusions. I highly recommend you to try this. Knowing something on an abstract basis is very different than seeing it with your own eyes.
EDIT: My scale for women
HB6: Skinny white girl = automatic 6.
HB5: If the above girl has skrillex haircut or acne, downgrade to a 5. Slightly overweight girls with pretty faces also fall here.
HB7: Skinny girl with above-average face.
HB8: Skinny girl with pretty face.
HB9: Skinny girl with fit, firm, tight bodies, and a pretty face.
HB10: Does not exist in reality. This would be a virgin, teenage Alexandra Daddario, without any piercings or tattoos. Most importantly she is not hypergamous, and even if I Beta and simp, she will still remain loyal.
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RhettButler7 4y ago
To people who think I'm a magician for having 24 matches in 2 months in NYC:
Must disagree here. This is not SF, Seattle or god forbid, DC.
In NYC, there are many, many 9s walking around.
You still need to have a base level of success and decent game, and even then it will be a rare occurrence.
I did not mean to give off the impression that I'm laying pipe on 9s all the time.
That it happened at all, and the fact that they initiated the message, was baffling to me then as now.
It occasionally happens that I strike out with a girl, and in the same night sleep with another much more attractive girl. I'm sure it happens to you as well.
The most baffling part was the HB9 messaging me first. Thank fuck I didn't lose frame and simp out.
RhettButler7 4y ago
In response to questions about the HB9 and importance of ethnicities:
Same as with every other lay really.
But I was pleasantly surprised by the fact that they were excellent conversationalists and seemed genuinely interested in me.
Struggled pretty hard to retain Frame and not go beta on them.
The actress, I tried to convert to a plate. But she was engaged to her boyfriend, so she didn't want to continue.
I wouldn't say she's famous. I'd certainly never heard of her before. She had a bit part in Pretty Little Liars and several other shows I can't remember and I'll never watch.
She messaged me first. I list stand-up comedy among my interests, and she said she met Russell Peters, one of my favorite comedians. I called bullshit. She sent me a pic with proof. I made a retarded joke about seeing a midget that I thought was Peter Dinklage. Some other stuff I can't remember. She mentioned she also paints. I said I would like to see her art sometime. She invited me to her place.
The Australian went back a week after the initial hookup. We smashed a couple more times before she left. Which is probably for the best, since I would have been in danger of developing one-itis.
I list stand-up comedy and MMA among my interests.
The Australian messaged me saying that she actually went to a UFC event in Melbourne a few years back (Whittaker vs Brunson). Whittaker was the reigning UFC Middleweight Champ when we spoke (2019).
I'm knowledgeable about MMA, so initial messages were me joking around about how Whittaker had to fight an actual rock golem (Romero) for 50 minutes.
I then shifted the convo to a nearby bar that shows UFC events. She invited me out for drinks. I don't drink, so we ended up going to a taping of Late Night with Seth Meyers. From there, I suggested a comedy club 2 minutes from my apartment. So 2 venue changes, but same night lay.
It was a much easier lay than expected, and if she didn't have to go back to Australia, I could even foresee upgrading her from plate status down the line.
My profile has pictures of me with hot girls and doing interesting activities. Social proof can offset average looks to some degree.
I have also travelled extensively and included it in my Bio, further demonstrating value. My travel was work-related, and I personally despise travelling, but girls love it, so I signal it to all and sundry.
Lastly, all the girls were White, so doubt ethnicity helped.
RhettButler7 4y ago
In response to Indian guy complaining about race:
IMO, ethnicity does matter.
All else equal, White>Black/Hispanic>Asian>Indian.
If you're a 5'5" Indian male, it's up to you to make sure that all else is not equal.
Remove the hideous accent if fob, get jacked, whiten teeth, eliminate body odor, dress well, and above all, have excellent game.
Am good friends with a 6' jacked Bangladeshi with good game, and he does very well with women.
Since to White people, Bangladesh=India=Pakistan, I think my point stands.
Yes, the White Chad will always outperform him, but since he's laying pipe on the reg, I don't think he's too bothered about it.
RhettButler7 4y ago
To people who enquired about "luxury condo in Manhattan" bit:
Luxury condo in Manhattan is elevator, 24/7 doorman MINIMUM.
In addition to the above, my apartment also had central air conditioning, a small gym within the building, laundry facilities, and several other perks.
Also must stress that renting through Zillow or through a broker should be a last resort, and you will never find good value.
I got my place through a sublet from a gym acquaintance.
Before that I lived in a 3rd floor walkup in Murray Hill with none of the above perks. Getting Amazon deliveries was a pita.
Unless you have lived in Manhattan for 5+ years, it is difficult for people to really understand the market, so I don't fault you for misunderstanding.
Manhattan isn't for everyone.
A luxury condo in Gramercy, where I lived, ranges from $2500 to $4500 per month depending on timing, luck and whether or not you used a broker. Mine was on the lower end of the scale, and I'm subletting it from someone who holds the primary lease.
$35-40k per year in housing isn't going to make you broke if you have a decent income and live within your means.
And my lifestyle choices are independent of income. I would do the same if I made $10 million/year.
Even the 3rd floor walkup in Murray Hill was $2200/month lol.
That was with no doorman, no elevator and noisy neighbors.
However, I prefer to walk everywhere, and to me it's worth the price to be able to be within 30 minute walking distance to my office, gym, bars, clubs, shops etc.
Just FYI, the "luxury" condos you see in Hollywood movies cost 10-20k+ per month. Those condos have way too many things I would never use. Even if I made $10 million/year, those places would still be redundant for me.
Apart from housing, I don't really spend money on anything else, and live well within my means.
Everything from my office, the gym, bars, clubs, shops is walking distance. I hardly even use the subway. So essentially no transport cost.
I also eat one meal a day, and cook that meal myself, so no exorbitant restaurant bills.
Neither do I drink nor do I do drugs, so misc expense is also zero.
To those who ask why I have this atypical lifestyle:
I'm a former MMA fighter and since retiring in my mid-20s, have maintained my diet and exercise regimen.
I have high insulin sensitivity and thus have a tendency to fat.
As you may imagine, this posed a problem when I had to make weight prior to fights. Eliminating all carbs solved this problem.
For the last 10 years or so, I have been on a meat-only diet, so naturally it's very high protein, so lifting heavy is not an issue.
If you're interested, Ted Naiman, MD has excellent explanations for insulin and lipolysis.