I think that one of the intriguing things I've learned is that people ascribe meanings not to things, but the relationships between them. AKA, as you think, so shall you become broadly, as you vocabulary, so you are specifically.
Here is an example: I have a childhood friend (friend 2) who is very Christian, and struggles with women. He also has self esteem issues (no surprise there he wouldn't be Christian otherwise). BP as can be. We don't see eye to eye on just about anything, but we both take turns learning something from each other at times, so the relationship works. Anyway, in a conversation with a friend 3, I noticed a trend with friend 2, and I started jogging down the important big emotional words he was using in his short discourse. In one single unbroken discourse, he used the words:
""""Duty responsibility right wrong masculinity should must moral "other people" the other, serving others, service, sacrifice, the good, goodness, morality, "what Jesus did" few people, deeply, discussion, meaningful, understanding, more, conviction, share, impact, called, dignity, everyone, fellowship, "what really matters", faithful, "spread the gospel" treat, respect, primary calling, "I think" everyone, change, relationship, socialization, greater, "I don't know" "let's talk" responsive, important, care.""""'
This conversation was in regards to masculinity, but it branched off into a discussion of meaning. As you can notice, there is a ton of emotionally charged and highly colorful words. That is the subconscious discourse that is going through his head; whether he realizes it or not, those words are the mental map he uses to navigate life, and to structure it. The meaning he finds is not in religion itself, but the emotional relationships that exist between these mental models. In friend 2 case, he has a ton of layers to dissect, but we can see he REALLY focuses on "the other" as his mental point of origin, "symbolism" and meaning in life (Since he is not very happy he wants to understand why), Christianity (filling the meaningful void), Masculinity (insecure about it in himself, though he doesn't say it out loud, the other words give me a clue.) etc
I turned to friend 3 and recorded his "big words" in his response:
""""Think stats combat peers honesty truth narrative convicted combat "prideless" intelligent brave "being right""""
Much shorter, the words he used had a different reference point. This tells me something. He is more traditionally masculine, excluding pride-less. His focus is on truth, honesty, reality, thinking, and statistics. He is deficient in being too prideful (He is ashamed in his porn problem), he is not brave etc.
What we can learn from this:
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From a personal perspective, changing your mental discourse changes you, or is you. A journal can help you find the big words. Take a week off all internet, television, books, all external stimuli. Every morning during the experiment, write down three pages of free-flow (Whatever comes to your head) into a word document on anything you want. After the week is done, go through your ramblings and pick out the re-occurring words and themes. At that point, you will have a much better idea as to your subconscious mental layout, and will know what hiccups you have.
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The words you consume matter. For friend 2, he is using an exceptionally blue pill discourse. If he were to, say, read Homer, Plutarch, Evola, Nietzsche, and Shakespeare (You could also throw in Rollo, Heartiste, etc but I don't like to encourage too much RP reading, it can get you into a stagnation cycle where all you do is read and not act.) for 3 months or so, he would dramatically change his personality into a more rounded, traditionally masculine mindset. He would have a new set of words, a new discourse with which to navigate reality. It is an important thing to read great books and literature for this reason, modern books are plagued with a moral underlying framework that is blue pilled and self-sabotaging to that mental discourse.
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In discussions with other men, learn to pick up on the big words they use whenever they are speaking on a hot topic, a personal story, a personal opinion etc. The big words used say more than the entire opinion, as you get an insight into their mental discourse. It can be used to understand them better than they understand themselves. Find a mentor and pick out the words they use, and reverse engineer their minds.
- Women generally lack this discourse, OR to be more accurate, they take the discourse of the man they instinctively are attracted to. It is why they can completely change their personality after dating you. It is why they can change their morals easily. Their solipsism functions as the mechanism to this fluidity. Women are closer to NPCs than we give them credit. A way to use this in your discourse with women: Get attractive, choose the values you want her to emulate, profit. (As an aside, this is the whole problem older women have with older men dating younger women. Their firmware is still malleable, and can be "groomed" for the purpose of the happiness of the man. Older women want to "groom" younger women too, just with their feminism bug.)
Read it at TRP: https://www.trp.red/p/death/1255
Zavss 3y ago
Mindset is key.
You are what you repetitively do & think.
Question what you do & think every once and awhile. This allows change.
TheRedPillRipper 3y ago
TL;DR:
”As you think, so shall you become.”
~ Bruce Lee
Godspeed and good luck!
Shaman6624 3y ago
Your ego (i.e. an artificially mind-created complex that loves it to have power over your consciousness) is what you repetitively do and think if you think that that is who you are you have a problem. Don't question it just observe it. And things will get better. Disidentify yourself with your mind.
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Royal_Philosophy 3y ago
Funny you said this. You know how you watch motivational speeches and get super motivate the DAY the very day i truly got into TRP and watch videos of patrice o'neal i noticed a shift. I would talk to more women " Just greeting " with a level of confidence i never had its just i felt like that dude. Listen to what this man is saying. To grow sn idea into your subconscious you have yo put yourslef in a situation where this is all you see, hear, read etc it will be easier to change your mind set. Don't just read Content here and even go out to pick up women. But live the content here. Find an environment where people are naturally like this hang with them you will notice the change become effortless.
grigor47 3y ago
Always like to say but striving to surround yourself with friends and people who make you want to be better whether it is with work, lifting, or intellectual pursuits should be something we all strive for.
rura12345 3y ago
Nice generalizing all christians here. You know there are more groups out there than your typical evangelical or novus ordo follower. If you look at christian before the sexual revolution or christian in other regions of the world you will see that they are mostly redpilled, more so than your average joe.
nincompoop_quire 3y ago
We’re a rare breed I’m today’s eastern Christian culture but traditional Christians in the west are much more masculine
Suqat 3y ago
I'm speaking about all Christians because of the values they ascribe to. You can't call yourself masculine and "create" masculinity centered around service, love, charity, gratitude, faith, equality, fraternity, modesty, humility, fear of god, guilt for sin, etc. Read something like "the meditations on the life of Jesus Christ" by Thomas Kempis and you find a completely anti-masculinity worldview when Christianity is taken to its conclusions. Granted, it isn't to say every Christian man ascribes fully to Christianity, but it certainly is correlated to anti-masculine, pussy drying, ways of acting and being. Ex, no priest turned on a woman's downstairs faucet ever. Another example, if a Christian man actually ascribes to the modern conception of "service" to the other in a Christian marriage, the marriage will fail. That is the red pill.
VOICE_OF_OBLIVION 3y ago
You know your analysis of Christianity is shit and oversimplified when even my Muslim ass thinks so lmfao
Onefamiliar 3y ago
X to doubt. Believing in god is as bp as it gets. Submitting to god, another man? That's cuckoldry.
TemplesOfSyrinx 3y ago
Agreed. It's the ultimate oneitis.
Mickusey 3y ago
I am irreligious myself, but you seem to have a gross misunderstanding of religious belief and the concept of God
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good-afternoon 3y ago
OP totally nitpicked the words used by his friends; and I don't see how that random selection of words allows us to draw any valid conclusion. I'm not really even Christian anymore, but this is a shitpost
Mickusey 3y ago
90% of this subreddit has become like this /is a shitpost. 19 year old armchair psychologist pretends to see connections because of his incredible insight, and he definitely has incredible insight and intelligence and ability to read people because that’s what Alpha Masculine Bros do. Overanalysis of basic behavior leads to overthinking.
good-afternoon 3y ago
Way too fucking true , this sub has seriously deteriorated over the past 5 years
Suqat 3y ago
Too many people overthink things, the best mindset to have is the simplest one.
good-afternoon 3y ago
That is dangerously simple when applied to things it shouldn't be.
Suqat 3y ago
Completely open to interpretation. You only live once, make it count.
caveatze3 3y ago
one of these things is not like the other
Suqat 3y ago
Yeah, but Shakespeare is great reading as a pastime when you want to turn your brain off and relax. Plus, you can learn a lot on human nature by reading him.
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rad_dynamic 3y ago
Point 4 is perfect! Women are very mouldable, based on which guy is at the top for her.
HeftyNugs 3y ago
Any book recommendations from those authors? Always looking to expand my read-list.