About three years ago, I met a girl on Tinder. We were both new to the area, and both happened to have moved there recently from Seattle. We closed down a bar on our first date, and she proceeded to take me back to her place and fuck my brains out.
At this point in my life I was just beginning to wake up to TRP truths. My previous relationship had been with a woman who was beautiful on the outside, miserable on the inside. Yet I had clung to her like a total chump, trying everything I could to save the relationship even though I didn't really want to. She was cold, and the bedroom was colder. That experience led to my first exposure to the Redpill, but I was still resistant to the ideas and clung to my plugged-in fantasy of what relationships were supposed to be like. At the time, I read No More Mr. Nice Guy, but still rejected core TRP as "extreme".
Okay, back to the new chick. She is tall, black hair, half native-american, absolutely beautiful. However she's also covered in tattoos and has a bit of a grungy-hippie aesthetic. She went to art school and identifies as a bisexual and hardcore feminist. At the time, though, I didn't see any of these as red flags, I saw them as "my type."
Also, I was distracted by the fact that she was busy draining my balls on a daily basis. She was constantly horny, constantly initiating sex with a blowjob. If we weren't fucking, we were partying or hanging out. I thought she was everything my previous girlfriend wasnt. Vibrant, fun, funny, and highly sexual. Basically I was blinded by pussy.
But then unignorable red flags began to pop up left and right.
She drank every night, a minimum of a six pack. I have no idea how she managed to stay so slender.
She was also a chainsmoker and vaper. The point of the vape was to avoid cigarettes, but cigarettes always magically appeared after a few beers.
She had major daddy issues. Her dad beat her up as a kid, and possibly sexually assaulted her, meanwhile leaving her sister completely alone and spoiling her. But she also still loved her dad and yearned for his approval.
Meanwhile she had a codependent relationship with her mom. They lived together. Her mom and dad separated but stayed married, which ruined her mom psychologically. She was very childlike, and incapable of caring for herself. She got $4,000 every month from her not-husband, but she frequently couldn't make rent because she blew all her money on expensive junk and other bullshit. My chick was not great with money herself, ended up having to cover her moms rent all the time. They had frequent drama with each other. In a lot of ways, my girlfriend was like a single mother because she came with this weirdly dependant and childish mother.
After a month or so of dating, she told me she loved me, that I was the only. person she had ever felt that for and that she could see herself marrying.
After that this girl started having toxic meltdowns while drunk. She would go apeshit, crying, talking shit, saying anything she could to get a rise out of me. She'd keep me up all hours of the night, getting increasingly drunk and psychotic. I should have bailed out the first time that happened but again, I was blinded by pussy.
It was like she wanted to test me, to try and push me to abandon her or hit her. She did not understand intimacy and love without chaos and abuse.
Between these drunken meltdowns, she would revert to bombing me with affection and pussy. It was as if the shitty nights did not happen for her. When I told her they had to stop, that the way she was acting was totally unnecessary and damaging, she became incredibly defensive and would try everything she could to guilt trip me or make me be the one in the wrong.
Frustrated by the rollercoaster of emotional chaos and wild, uninhibited pussy, I finally turned to the red pill for guidance. Through that, I found Rollo Tomassi and Rich Cooper. I read the books, watched the videos, all that good shit. I realized that I had been much more naturally redpilled as a teen and had slowly allowed myself to be beta-ized in the pursuit of appealing to SJW pussy.
I began to connect the dots between her feminist, SJW persona and her daddy issues and toxic, emotionally abusive behavior. Pretty soon, it was very clear that this woman would destroy my life If I let her.
So without further ado, I decided to trust the wisdom I learned from TRP sources and cut this chick out of my life. Her reaction was to have a complete and total meltdown. That first night she called me dozens of times, left like 8 voicemails, and sent dozens of texts, all of which oscillated back and forth between begging for me to come back and crazy vitriol about what an entitled white guy I was. So I blocked her. Naturally, she started blowing up my email after that and tried to contact me through her friends' and mom's phones. She even showed up drunk at my place once, banging on the door and begging to be let in. Of course, she was wasted.
A couple months later, I ran into her at a concert. I was drunk, and against my better judgement I went home with her. Of course she fucked my brains out and told me all this wonderful stuff about how she only saw herself with me and having a family with me. I barely said a word as I was just drunk and wanted to get my rocks off.
As we lay there in her bed she told me she was dating a sweet guy but didnt love him. She said that she didnt know what love was before me, and that no one else understood her body or could make her cum like I could. In the same conversation she told me she had been using Seeking Arrangements on the side to make rent money by giving old dudes blow jobs. In the same breath she told me she wanted to marry me, have my babies, and yet was cheating on someome and whoring herself out at the same time - all without a hint of shame or self awareness. She even told me she felt powerful giving old dude blowjobs, and that it was like a "fuck you" to her dad. She then proceeded to start sucking my cock again.
I saw so many redpill truths spilling out of her mouth, it was like clear confirmation of TRP handed to me wrapped up in a bow. Why had I ever even entertained the idea of letting this person have any part in my life?
When I woke up, completely sober, I slipped out of her apartment without a word. I checked my phone blocker later and saw she had tried calling twelve times. Im sure she views me as the asshole who abandoned her, and has given no consideration to her own behavior.
TRP saved my life from a Trainwreck. I almost thought this absolute dumpster fire of a human was my soul mate just because she was always down to fuck and said all kinds of sweet shit in my ear when she wasnt acting like a psychopath.
The only problem is that now that Im unplugged, relationships just feel fake. They can still be a lot of fun, but I feel no emotional attachment. Maybe that will change over time, but now all the dynamics women use in relationships just feel so blatant and tiresome.
But hell, I'll take this any day over letting my life be ruined by a toxic alcoholic feminist with daddy issues.

zino193 6y ago
> I almost thought this absolute dumpster fire of a human was my soul mate just because she was always down to fuck and said all kinds of sweet shit in my ear when she wasnt acting like a psychopath.
Take a walk with me to the next level - did she lie? Did she tell you she is your little angel? Did she promise she will suck you forever after?
What did she do to make her the bad guy? Man, she did not promise you a thing. It was all on you - all the projections, all the fantasies all the rationalizations were on you. And that's the problem, that's the curse.
You will hear americans around here praise the eastern european woman - they praise out of pure ignorance. Because the curse of the blue pill man is not because of the women he meets. But the fallacies he believes.
You were lucky she was such a mess, otherwise, you would have put a ring on that, you would have supported her mother, you would have came right in her tight pussy and put a baby in her while she wispered daddy into your ear and your life would have been just as fucked.
No not fall into the "where have all the good women gone" conservative mindset - there are no good women. Women will be what you ask of them, it's in their nature to be whatever you want - if you want a housewife, puff, there she is - in a appron. That's their sexual strategy - to get you. And when she gets you - you will understand why AWALT. It's not just the sluts, the tatted up native americans with daddy issues - BUT ALL WOMEN. Enjoy the obvious messes, enjoy the clarity and cinicism. And keep the unicorn fantasy for the roleplay sessions.
RompeChocha 6y ago
As soon as i see any crazyness or disrespect, i dip.
PhilipChr 6y ago
The power of the pussy is like the power of the one ring. It corrupts your mind and spirit and makes you delusional. You gotta be strong to be able to rise above it and see someone for who they truly are. Congrats on throwing that bitch into Mount Doom.
AnIslandForYourself 6y ago
The trending post on TRP right now is about a dude getting falsely accused of rape. That could have been you OP. Be thankful that you're not. Oh, and don't ever talk to her again. She'll ruin some poor guy's life in the future. Make sure it's not yours.
p3n1x 6y ago
This may sound fucked up, but the girl in OP's story doesn't fit the profile. She wouldn't risk the loss of a horse in her stable. Op's girl knows she gets blackout drunk, does crazy sexual shit, and may wake up with a stranger at anytime. She is well beyond feeling sexual shame or giving a shit what other girls think. The rape card is not in her game, if anything, she probably fantasizes about it more than the average chick.
The more experience you go out and earn, the more BPD will make sense vs. the "shamed attention seekers" that need to protect their character.
dopexile 6y ago
When you are in new relationship energy you cannot see the flaws of other people. Your hormones and emotions are designed to override your judgment so that you will procreate.
One time I was dating a girl and I opened up an excel spreadsheet. I listed all the pros of dating the girl and the cons. The pros list was very short and I struggled to come up with items. Some of the things like beauty and youth were only temporary. The cons list was about 7-10 times longer than the pros. Of course, I dumped that girl.
Bonistocrat 6y ago
She sounds like she had BPD to be honest. You did well to get out of that situation if so.
GalcomMadwell 6y ago
Im never one to make armchair medical diagnosis but it was like dating Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde.
proactive-defense 6y ago
BPD, and violent shit testing to create anger which they find sexually gratifying, bad combo.
mrrooftops 6y ago
Within three sentences she can be fully diagnosed. This. BPD black hole of emotional switching, love bombing, ultra hating Jekyll Hyde mental armageddon.
Pristine-Mechanic 6y ago
Why do women become whores to "get back" at their dad? what's the reasoning? They wouldn't want them to be whores?
319Skew 6y ago
It's just a hamster reason. "Sure, I'm a slut but it's because my <insert man > didn't <insert excuse >".
PizzaAndProtein 6y ago
> The only problem is that now that Im unplugged, relationships just feel fake. They can still be a lot of fun, but I feel no emotional attachment. Maybe that will change over time, but now all the dynamics women use in relationships just feel so blatant and tiresome.
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You can love a person, just don't fall in love. Don't put others above yourself and allow them to fall below your standards and cross boundaries without consequence.
CrystalQuartzen 6y ago
Pro tip for getting away from toxic girls (hopefully you won’t have to again): If you think they might be psycho, go full beta and get them to leave you. Much easier way to keep the freaks away
volvostupidshit 6y ago
Or pray that she finds a new job. They usually want a new shiny object.
Domebeers 6y ago
The 'relationships feel fake' part is still something I struggle with. Like, fine, I get that they love that I don't care if they live or die. But it then just makes the 'relationship' "do x to get pussy", like the social robot effect. I can't keep up the front for longer than a month. Which only gets them more attracted, which only makes you want to find new pussy.
Anyone got a trick to that? Keep finding new pussy is basically my solution.
comcain 6y ago
Another Brother saved. Hallelujah!
Congratulations, OP.
You'll find yourself in the Anger Phase for awhile. Don't be concerned, it's a normal phase of detoxing.
Good luck!
Cheers
exodeadh 6y ago
Hell, I found out about TRP almost 4 years ago and I still get anger pangs once every month or so.
But yes, it's only detoxing, life only gets better onwards.
volvostupidshit 6y ago
3 years after my first oneitis break up and I can finally say I no longer get angry. I am never going to put myself in that position again.
_Icarus_Reborn_ 6y ago
I never really went through the anger phase, once I started my TRP journey everything absolutely made sense and it just clicked. There was no point in getting angry.
That's been my life motto before TRP and it just felt right when the TRP truths started appearing.
But, I do sometimes get anger spikes, now and then. But I've learnt to quell those feelings quickly. Internalise why I got angry and let it wash over me and get back to grinding.
SKRedPill 6y ago
One more thing. I suggest you quit drinking to the point of losing your sobriety.
Inside-Party 6y ago
I've been thinking of giving up drinking altogether, except for maybe rare occasions on vacation or something. I mean, why do I do this to myself? It's expensive, it sabotages my body fat % so I have to diet harder, I don't really enjoy it that much, it can cause whiskey dick, and if I drink enough to be buzzed, I pay the next day...
Tbh it's started to feel kind of inconvenient and a pain in the ass. I think the only real reason to do it is to be social with girls who are wild animals when they get a drink in them...
theguytheguy1000 6y ago
literally.
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i'm so bored of drinking. and drugs. and every other poison i put in my body.
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it's just wasting your life away for a cheap high. why?
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i could be dead tomorrow and i'm here running away from the present for a cheap high.
JameisBong 6y ago
IDK what it is about BPD that makes them conveniently shit test you at odd hours of the night or early morning.
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Overkillengine 6y ago
Because one's guard is down at those times, so they can't help but probe for weakness.
JameisBong 6y ago
Makes sense but still WTF? Hardest relationship I've ever suffered through.
Deathbysugar2020 6y ago
Congrats mate, be careful who you attach yourself to. What's wrong with being bisexual though?
vplatt 6y ago
Maybe nothing. But she had so many other things going on, it's tough to tell if that wasn't just another symptom of her abuse. In short, she's a confused trainwreck and if her coming out about that wasn't liberating in its own way, then it's quite possible just another coping mechanism she has in a sort of WGTOW kind of way.
Don't let sympathy seekers push your SJW buttons, m'kay?
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p3n1x 6y ago
Because you fell in love with her and then took the blinders off. You feel aggressively retarded while missing her at the same time.
This helps you get passed the "porn phase". When you would fuck anything that said hello because you were constantly desperate. The phase of fucking women you aren't truly attracted to just to keep up that N-count so your fragile ego could exist.
This is where you work on abundance (one major failure in your BPD relationship above), you didn't have any.
An overwhelming sense of AWALT is what has you all fucked up at the moment. You are out of balance and it makes sense. Just make sure to learn from the experience and not "dwell" on it.
Take some responsibility with "acceptance" and fuck women who make you hard and not the SJW rules of what a hot women should look like to be "hot".
Sweatingtoomuch 6y ago
I feel you on this man. I had an ex back in my blue-pilled beta days that was extremely toxic with daddy issues and CONSTANTLY needy (like every fuckin hour would blow up my phone until I responded) for my attention and always extremely emotional.
She would legit cry every night and tell me about it the next day. I was oblivious to it all this at the time. I ignored every red flag known to man because we would fuck 3-6 times a day.
I don’t regret being with her as it really opened my eyes to how toxic a lot of these girls are.
Cheers to being better men.
MerryVegetableGarden 6y ago
Those aren’t trp truths, bro. Rp truths apply to normal women. The joke is “bitches be crazy,” and generally that’s true but to different degrees. Your halfbreed ex is literally in 99.5th percentile of psycho. Most sluts don’t blow old dudes to get back at daddy. If you needed “trp truths” to discover she was bad news, I honestly question your judgement. Trp helps you notice the subtleties of feminine manipulation. You shouldn’t need a magnifying glass to tell that the nuclear warhead you’re looking at is pointed straight at you.
JameisBong 6y ago
Ah good old BPD. It will ruin your life, but your brain will be hooked on the emotional rollercoaster.
volvostupidshit 6y ago
Mine took me 2 years to totally get over with. By that I mean even when I see her pics I do not feel any emotion.
JameisBong 6y ago
It took me about a year and a half. My own ego was to blame TBH. I shouldn't have gone anywhere near someone that insane.
trees-for-breakfast 6y ago
that's a weird way of saying she smells bad
MaximilianLloyd 6y ago
Sounds like she has BPD. I experienced almost exactly the same shit you did. Good on you for cutting her out of your life.
ToraChan23 6y ago
Last night a Red Pill said my life... ... from an SJW
yeet_senpai 6y ago
you are eternally lucky for not being accused of rape
trollreign 6y ago
That is an important point. It's been several years for me since the relationship that opened my eyes, and this issue is still with me to some extent. Before, I was looking for a good woman who's worth sacrificing a lot of my energy and free time for. Now my relationships are "emptier", and when they cause me the slightest discomfort or the relationship becomes even a little bit burdensome, I cut them loose immediately.
I do feel genuine connection to some women, and I love the moments of passion, and even the moments of calm after fucking their brains out. But in the morning, I prefer if they leave, or if I'm at their place, I prefer to bounce early and get my day started - alone. It's difficult to imagine that I would ever want to go back to living with a woman and having them ALWAYS there when I'm at home in my personal space.
Luck-67 6y ago
Young man, have you been to the doctor to get your dick and bloodwork checked since the last time you swapped DNA with this disaster ?
GalcomMadwell 6y ago
yes, I'm clean, praise Jesus
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sowhattwenty20 6y ago
Yeah, they use triangulation and "flying monkeys," i.e. supposed friends/family to try to break you down psychologically. Another good book about recovering from their impact on your life is called "Psychopath Free."
InsulinDaddy 6y ago
Sounds like you dodged the Borderline-Bullet man, congrats ! Stay away from bpd chicks, the sex is pornstar level but so are her mental issues.
showerbro666 6y ago
This story hits so close to home king. I had a similar situation that fucked with my mental health. Met a girl on Tinder not knowing she was an alcoholic cokehead camgirl with BPD. She would do the thing where she would build me up and put me on a pedestal, and then in her intoxicated rage put me down as if I was nothing. Glad to see I'm not alone in this shit. As a bonus, I met another girl who used seeking arrangements to well, blow old dudes for money. She was pretty chill though
sowhattwenty20 6y ago
Look up both Borderline Personality Disorder (BPD) and Narcissistic Personality Disorder (NPD) and specifically how they manifest themselves in women.
There is a reason you likely fell so hard for this what sounds like no-doubt BPD/NPD woman (imo). Figure out what got you "hooked" on her in the first place, probably to be found in your own childhood.
Do this work or you might be ruined by the next BPD/NPD temptress who gets her claws in you.
Been there, done that, more than once. There's a good book called "Saying Goodbye to Crazy." It's a worthwhile read. It might help you process this break-up because these chicks can haunt your brain. Not their fault totally, as they often come from horrible abuse.
You might have the best sex of your life, but out of the bedroom they are cuddling one moment, then 10 minutes later breaking dishes and screaming at you about how everything is your fault.
The red pill helps, but it's all theoretical. You've to do the work and learn from your mistakes.
Congrats on getting out of this relationship, but be ready for her to turn up again, even years from now.
volvostupidshit 6y ago
The hard part about this is that they usually use your relatives and friends to get back at you. Mine did that but I finally saw the pattern and confronted her.
GalcomMadwell 6y ago
Thank you, I will grab that book immediately.
And yes she did come from horrible abuse. Her dad beat her unconcious with a frying pan once. She said she got three concussions from him during her teens.
But she would also tell me these stories when I told her I was unhappy with the relationship and thinking that it should end. So, there was a huge element of manipulation involved.
arakouzo 6y ago
Part of the problem was you. You had expectations. When you try to shove a girl into a certain mold because you are looking for a soul-mate or something stupid like that, the damage is twofold.
First, it makes you blind. All you can see is the mold you're trying to fit her into. Second, it suffocates her. She has to start hiding things from you and pretending other things. You never get to know the real her.
Having expectations of women prevents them from being free enough to be themselves around you, and prevents you from enjoying them for what they are. Some constantly-drunk, highly sexual babbling feminist slutty girl makes a great casual partner. But the second you build this box of expectations around her, you and she both spend the entire "relationship" stressed out about your expectations.
DrunkOldBear 6y ago
"First, it makes you blind. All you can see is the mold you're trying to fit her into. Second, it suffocates her. She has to start hiding things from you and pretending other things. You never get to know the real her."
This is gold my friend. It describes issues from my past relationships, when I fell in love with sluts trying to force them info wife-molds. It does suffocate them.
Sciptr 6y ago
I’ll have to save that last paragraph. Thanks for the reminder.
GalcomMadwell 6y ago
Obviously I was part of the problem. Hell, I was 100% of the problem because I allowed the relationship to exist at all. There was no good reason to participate but I did anyway.
babybopp 6y ago
Dude I went through the same dumpster fire. When you said - all without a hint of shame or self awareness.. it resonated deeply how the hamstering is painted with serious cognitive dissonance.
p3n1x 6y ago
Good pussy is good pussy. Sprinkle in mother nature's lovely chemicals (that you have ZERO control over) and your actions make sense. You were just a shitty manager and allowed things to get too far out of control.
Her fuck game was on point, she made your dick hard. You will fuck many more like her, but now with a better understanding of how to manage the chaos.
I disagree with the guy above. You didn't have any expectations other than emptying your balls. You allowed her to bounce around like a Plinko Chip until it hit you in the face.
You enjoyed that BPD pussy, now you know and understand the price of admission and how to leave when the show is actually over.
prophetoffun 6y ago
His biggest issue was actually listening to her though. He didn’t try to change her or make her fit into a box it seems, she just was unstable and in denial. She clearly wanted a relationship with him and wanted to have his babies etc. Men just have to wake up and see that this is all a manipulation tactic. No matter how bad someone says they want you and only you, they are just saying what you want to hear so they can control you. Keep women at arms length at all times.
bcvickers 6y ago
He didn't actively try and change her, the "box" was in his own mind. That's where he went sideways and almost got trapped. Some guys will take this to a new level and actually try and change them and get in even deeper. Luckily OP did not.
Wingflier 6y ago
That's a big issue for me too. I was raised hardcore Christian with monogamous values and to worship a woman and put her on a pedestal. To find your soulmate and sacrifice everything for her, no matter what.
I spent most of my life looking for this woman, and it goes without saying that I was abused, mistreated, and taken advantage of ruthlessly again and again, often by women who probably didn't even realize they were doing it. (It seems to be in women's natures to use chumps and betas, it's not even malicious most the time)
After slowly being redpilled and realizing what a fucking fool I was, my life has been so much healthier and I feel so much more knowledgeable and in control. It's been a complete 180 for me and I'm so grateful to all the men who made it possible. These RP men were much better role models than my own father.
But I do have to say, I agree with you OP. Now that I'm unplugged, every relationship just feels like childish manipulation. You approach the girl, you say the things, she feels something, she falls in love, you fuck, she wants more, and you move on.
There's no magic in that, it's simple biology. It's taking advantage of creatures that seem to have no agency or self-awareness. In some ways it feels disgusting. I can try to rationalize it the way some of these scummy PUAs like Roosh have by saying, "You fucked her and gave her a good time, don't worry about it." But I know that's dishonest. If she's emotionally crushed by your actions, you bear some responsibility.
How to be redpilled and continue to view women as intellectual and moral equals? I really don't know.
rredhammer 6y ago
I relate to the boredom in a relationship now. I used to be upset and almost wished to be a lovestruck idiot again but I recently decided that it gives me the opportunity to focus on my mission instead.
The relationship is there for your enjoyment but now that you know what you know, you can push aside the bullshit and achieve what you want.
GalcomMadwell 6y ago
At least without all the Onitis and Christian programming clouding your mind, you can see women as they actually are rather than what you wish they were. There are still intelligent and funny women out there, to at least have some form of relationship with. You can still find a deeper connection, it will just be honest and unclouded by beta fantasies.
gixxerthouguy 6y ago
I wasted YEARS in that Christian environment. I think I am more angry about that (and how the women would openly joke how they are the boss etc, as they know the men in the community are under pressure to do nothing but pedestalise them), than I am about learning Red Pill truths.
Even though I had success in my teens, I was literally brought up to be a pussy. That makes me angry every time I think about it.
paranoidinfidel 6y ago
And when you break out of the christian programming by yourself, for yourself you are still left with unconscious self sabotaging "morality" based behaviours.
Keith_Valentine 6y ago
I know what youre saying and feel very similar. Its one of my biggest hangups with TRP, essentially treating women the way they treat us. And yet most of us agree men are stronger when it comes to handling these things. Is it not kinda an eye for an eye approach to dating? Ftr i usually keep these thoughts to myself, i dont disparage TRP but things like that bother me. Its like.. scorched earth "dating".
Wingflier 6y ago
I think the "scorched earth dating" point is dead on.
I've always felt like the Red Pill philosophy was designed in reaction to the cultural zeitgeist which Western men currently find ourselves in.
I think the influence of Feminism and a gynocentric society has totally upended and flopped the values that women have been raised and socialized with for thousands of years, but men have not caught up.
When you look at things like the hookup culture, the destruction of the nuclear family, the stigmatization of marriage, the blatant unfairness of divorce court, female-favored online dating, and the message that women have been raised with that they deserve everything because they have a vagina...these are relatively recent developments that have fundamentally changed the way women behave in Western culture. (Some may argue that women were always like that. You're missing my point. Women's biology has not changed, their social conditioning has. Behaviors and attitudes that were not permissible for the majority of human history are now encouraged.)
Self-sacrificing (disposable) men who in times past may have been considered chivalrous and noble by women, are now viewed as simps, chumps, and betas to be taken advantage of and drained of resources.
In other words, the attitudes and beliefs that we men are raised with were designed for a bygone age and for women who do not exist anymore. For me, TRP *is* Scorched Earth in the sense that it's simply responding to the kind of horrifying situation we as a society have created. You can either learn to woo these fucking monsters or you can opt out of it. There's very little middle ground.
Keith_Valentine 6y ago
You nailed it, and its depressing. It wont end well for average people, and theres no closing Pandoras Box now. I went through the same thing myself. I am awake , in control, and doing well. But you lose some passion in the process, some cynicism has definitely set in with me.
Like i saw some bp chump posting a pic of him proposing to a gal on my feed. He was all chubby and soft, but looked so happy. And all i could think was, you are a fucking idiot. I left a post 'Big mistake', just that. Got downvoted some, i dont give a flying fuck.
DadBod2ChadBod 6y ago
Fuck this is so my experience. Women used to have this lustre but now I just find them robotic. I say this, they react like this - it's like clockwork and totally shatters the illusion I had of their individuality. It's hard to respect them in that context. I've actually started seeing an ex who didn't conform to this pattern, probably because I met her before I developed the pattern. She's probably the only woman I've met who I like on a non-sexual level. Probably a mistake, but I'd like to feel 'human' again.
Edit: Probably the most disturbing part of this is how they genuinely feel love for you in that moment, it's like clockwork. I used to think love was special. How times change.
Wingflier 6y ago
Ugh, I completely agree with you.
The really think they're "in love", and that it's some supernatural, stars aligning, fate, united-by-the-universe Disney story that they've fallen into. You're looking into their eyes thinking, fuck this is all just chemical and hormones. I've manipulated this entire situation and in the end, it's empty and meaningless. They don't love me, they love this high.
And once you realize that they're addicted to a feeling that you're temporarily providing, how can you look past that?
DadBod2ChadBod 6y ago
Couldn't have put it better myself. As discomforting as this is, at least I don't fear rejection or being blind-sided by a breakup. At least I'm no longer a fool who believes in a fairytale narrative created to deceive him. Red Pill is dark but there's comfort in knowing that there is no such thing as magic, it's all up to you.
Wingflier 6y ago
In some ways, the entire premise of "the red pill" perfectly encapsulates this phenomenon. If you remember the movie the concept was taken from, the Matrix, Neo has a choice between two pills. He's warned when choosing that he will only be offered with 'the truth'.
After he takes the pill and is transported out of the Matrix, he experiences the dark dystopia that is reality. Even though he wants to, he can never go back. And at one point he's asked, "But would you really want to?"
It seems like that's what we're all experiencing now. Some part of us longs for the past, the fairy tale romance we were indoctrinated with. But as painful as the truth is, we're better off knowing.
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Greaterbird 6y ago
Sounds like you got some firsthand experience with BPD.
VegetableBoner 6y ago
Hell yeah brother I’m glad you’re out of that shit. Being blinded by pussy is the worst shit but you have a good head on your shoulders and you always knew something was up. Keep improving, king.
Ragekage33 6y ago
Thanks for this , it helps knowing others have similar experience and out comes. I also feel like I’m the same stage of “ everything seems fake “ stage best of luck to you
powerappled 6y ago
I was in a similar situation with a woman awhile back and as you did I had to learn from the experience itself. Moral of the story is have your psycho radar on next time and drop the girl when she says she wants to marry you a month in. And honestly just don’t even bother with tinder if you’re looking for a serious relationship ... waste of time.
volvostupidshit 6y ago
Lemme guess. She constantly initiates mini break ups through the relationship. Am I right?
GalcomMadwell 6y ago
yes, but they are always bluffs as a form of control
volvostupidshit 6y ago
Exactly. And also an opportunity to cheat on you with plausible deniability.
UnprofessionalPlump 6y ago
Thank you OP. This is exactly why men need red pill
anonyree 6y ago
welpp.. eveyrone should date someone like that once.
kreddit007 6y ago
Holy shit dude, TRP did not "save your life". There is no Red Pill.
You simply mistook common sense for universal truth.
She's damaged. Got daddy issues. Of course she'd be great in the sack...
wise_old_man_rs 6y ago
Why do woman Always act so bad shit crazy ? Had my fair share of crazy exes, Sex was great but the rest is a trainwreck. Laughable, grown woman with the mental capativity of a 13 year old.
NorrisChuck 6y ago
You just described Carissa, was her name Carissa?
damiksta93 6y ago
what a fucken whore.. thank christ u dodged this bullet hahaa
jewishsupremacist88 6y ago
anyone else notice thay anytime a girl is half-anything they are usually crazy or there is something off about them? for example..all the jewish girls i know who are degenerates are half-jacks (like myself) and the same goes for half-asians/latinas/blacks that are mixed with white.
throwawaycunt1997 6y ago
No. AWALT
Met my fair share of batshit and stupid blue eyed snow coons too.
ebaymasochist 6y ago
Is that because of TRP or because you are drawn to psychos who you should never in a hundred years become attached to emotionally?
Maybe you get a girl who wasn't her dad's punching bag, you will build an (healthy) attachment to her. Because it won't feel like walking into a fire.
Just a warning man, tactics discussed on this sub seem to work especially well with damaged women.
RPOpenUp 6y ago
Great read, glad you're doing fine now.
I can relate to the fake feeling of relationships.
It's like my subsconsious is now telling me she just does stuff to win me over to start providing for her whenever she shows attachment.
dr_warlock 6y ago
Crazy chicks are great fucks and can make life interesting but you need enough going on in life where you can back out emotionally when it gets too hectic IE she's instigating trouble because she doesn't know how to function without those constant cycles of high highs and deep lows. Same thing with stalker ex-boyfriends/sugar daddies show up or she puts you in a bad situation and you need to disassociate yourself from her.
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gediwer 6y ago
You know that is what I am afraid of. I realize that TRP is very very important whilst dealing with women, especially those you are interested in and while I think TRP is going to get me a lot of hookups when I get out of High School. I just can't handle how... detaching it is. Like I always wanted that textbook love story ykwim? Being so madly in love that you can't think of anything else. I wanted that type of shit. And while some part of me still does want that, my brain automatically classifies it as Blue Pill and shoots it out of my system. I am sure I am going to handle women really well in the future but that is not the only thing that I want. I want that... that feeling of... love? I don't have words for it. Like you know the butterflies in stomach and shit? I feel like if I wanted to go out and fuck any girl I could but it just won't be the same as fucking that one. Like TRP for LTR will help you get a stable relationship. Like you will check every box with your SO but it just won't be the same as that overwhelming feeling when you see THAT girl. Like there is a dream girl then there is a love of your life. That dream girl is what you want in your woman, what you want her to behave like, how you want her to fuck you, yada yada. But the love of your life is the one every time you look at her you are just drawn to her. No other girl even crosses your mind. You are always eager to come back home and find her. Sex has some meaning with her. The relationship is not only compatible but improves day by day. Nothing is a challenge when you are with her. You fall in love deeper and deeper everyday. I want that type of shit.
Now that I read this I realize how Blue Pilled this is. I ain't no beta. But now that I have written this I might as well post otherwise it'd be a waste of time and effort. Also I don't think it is wise to let someone have so much power over you. Like what if they don't feel the same way and when they realize how beta your emotions are they break your heart? Wouldn't want that happening. TRP is great tho.
HangTheGods 6y ago
There's nothing wrong or "beta" about emotional attachment, or enjoying the butterflies/honeymoon phase. A big part of learning to be a man is learning to control your emotions, not eliminate them. A couple of points:
Don't get too autistic about TRP - being in love with a good woman is absolutely possible, and isn't remotely beta in & of itself, but it isn't all about riding an endless wave of perfect feelings that last forever. It's hard. It's about putting in work & staying in control. But if it's genuinely what you want - what you know you want when you're consciously and rationally working with your feelings - then go for it, because one thing I can guarantee is that if that's the kind of guy you are, it'll totally be worth the failures & the heartbreaks & all the hard work.
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ebaymasochist 6y ago
Bro the other response is right, there's nothing wrong with wanting that but it is mostly a chemical reaction in your brain pushing you to reproduce with someone without thinking about any drawbacks that could stop you from doing it.
The good thing is, as long as you are aware what is going on, the blue pill fantasies can actually be fun to play around with. You don't have to shoot them out of your system. But don't become a slave to them either
throwawaycunt1997 6y ago
I venture to say that TRP does not remove this feeling itself; what causes this level of emotional tension and compatibility is most likely linked to masculine/feminine polarity; the right percentage of each complimenting your own. And that’s certainly possible. It is just natural attraction, after all.
zikik 6y ago
I was like how? when I read this bit but having read the ending of the post, I have no questions.
Tousen71 6y ago
Dude you sound like a bitch.
All I’m reading over and over again is “the pussy” “fucked my brains out” and “blowjobs on demand” and you used that to ignore clearly disrespectful and childish behavior.
Only dudes who’ve never gotten pussy or never gotten it from an attractive woman will lay the “she was hot and into me” card so much.
Your story of “...and then despite the pussy, I kicked that bitch to the curb” is uninspiring.
You just sound like another pussy-whipped beta that reached his breaking point after being hypnotized by a thot (and if you assume there weren’t 5 other dudes like you being simultaneously used as physical/emotional crutches I got a bridge to sell you.)
sehns 6y ago
Yeah thats literally what the OP is saying though. You repeating it back as though you came to this conclusion on your own makes you sound like the bitch here
Tousen71 6y ago
No where in OPs statement does he say “i was a bitch.”
All I see is “the pussy was incredible”, “she was so hot” “she sucked me dry” and other bullshit like that.
My point is that its that exact mindset that’s the problem here, not the girl.
And all the dudes cheering “yeah man! Kick that bitch to the curb” are just as lost and confused as the OP and will likely (along with him) repeat the same mistake.
The girl was never the problem. Sure, the OP admits he missed the red flags because the pussy was so good, but the problem isn’t the “bisexual SJW” it’s HIM.
If good pussy can blind you that much to OBVIOUS incompatibilities, YOU ARE THE PROBLEM.
Not the bitch.
The lesson here is one of personal responsibility for staying with a damaged girl, not just dropping her.
But believe what you want to believe.
sehns 6y ago
Nowhere in OP's statement does he not show self-awareness to his situation you weirdo
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sawyer94117 6y ago
"I realized that I had been much more naturally redpilled as a teen and had slowly allowed myself to be beta-ized in the pursuit of appealing to SJW pussy."
I was similar. I'm the child of immigrants (myself being born in the US) my mom died young so my father got a mail-order bride from his home land. There was some shit going on over there so he was able to land a woman from the top caste, even though he was from the bottom caste. He thought she would take care of his young children and take care of other "wifely duties" but she treated him like shit. When she started associating with western women and say how they treated their husbands and learned of how favorable the divorce laws were to women, she treated him even worse. All his money started going to her to try to get her to stop but, of course, that only showed her her behavior was working. So the end result was his children from his previous relationship clothed in rags and eating stuff that barely qualifies as food, when her and her daughter ate like queens, got all the latest fashions and he made his earlier kids wait on them hand and foot. He would "persuade" us with this half "dude, help me out" and half "don't make me get the belt out". It was pretty telling that he was willing to put his foot down to children but not his own wife. He said it was because in his culture divorce isn't a thing, supposedly forgetting he was living in America. But one night when he was drunk he revealed that if things were this tough financially just imagine how much harder it will be for you if we divorced. One summer they separated and it was the happiest summer of my childhood - my old man was no prize but eventually he'd give up, my stepmother on the other hand would pry until she tore into you, even boring her fingernails into your temple til it bled and if I complained to my father he'd tell me to just shut up (not dissimilar from how pussy-whipped guys will treat their friends like shit or expect their friends to get treated like shit by their women). Eventually he cut her off and almost immediately she came crawling back.
I left that situation wanting nothing to do with women. But then my little head started doing the thinking. I started rationalizing. Surely it was just this one woman. Surely not all women are like that. I found, in my natural red pill state, I'd have no interest in women, which actually drew them to me but I didn't know how to overcome my disgust to close the deal. I thought it was unfair of me to see my stepmother in all of these women. I even opened up to a few of them - I figured they were better at processing emotions, right? - but that always immediately killed the attraction. After all, women want to be looked after, not to look after, maybe it's different for their own kid, but that's largely if they think they'll get social proof from others for being a good mother. At this point I hadn't worked out that women will take as much as they can, equity be damned. It's odd because in the wild the male that makes the best presentation gets the best women, but with us it's more like the guy who can give the most but gives the least gets the best.
DanAffid 6y ago
BPD
Took me a year to reset my normal meter and get used to normal levels of emotion.
It's like after staring at the sun or going to a heavy metal concert - your heart is to numb from the constant emotional pounding
The only mistake I did was to jump to a relationship with a girl I really liked right after, she didn't deserve the mess of a man I was back then.
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theomniscience24 6y ago
The way women justify prostitution each in their own different way is fascinating to me.
It is one of the only things that make me feel bad for them. They have been led into prostitution so easily, and it will irreparably destroy their lives forever. I don’t care if they deserve it, i still pity them.
jewishsupremacist88 6y ago
all women are prostitutes in someway shape or form.
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BasedAndRedPilled_ 6y ago
True, but we have to look at the root cause of this. A lot of men are thirsty betas who want pussy no matter what, and will go to great lengths for it. If there is a system where women can sell their bodies for a lot of profit, shouldn’t we blame the system(we should also blame the women)? Neoliberalism is parasitic in nature, the market wants us to be mindless obese consumers.
theomniscience24 6y ago
There used to be social restraints and laws against this kind of behavior. Society chose to part ways with them. Apart from going back in time I don’t see the system being fixed or even changed. The trajectory is all downhill from now.
BasedAndRedPilled_ 6y ago
There’s an old saying: “Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, weak men create hard times.”
You’re right, we’re in weak men right now, and it’s still downhill from here. Once hard times come around, strong men will fill in the vortex with their own order, and because of their nature, they’ll follow suit.
throwawayandtossout 6y ago
Against prostitution? Prostitution has been around since the beginning.
GoodBoi_JStack 6y ago
Trading sex for resources has been around forever. Cavemen just called them mates...but it’s not the same thing. Prostitution differs due to a lack of a consistent relationship.
The cavewoman who hung around by the lake and shagged anyone for a fish didn’t make it very long I’d wager. She’s quickly succumb to violence or the inevitable consequences of her behavior.
I think prostitution evolved out of civilization. I couldn’t give a dissertation on on its origins, but I think the “oldest profession” claim is empty and more indicative of men giving up than anything.
theomniscience24 6y ago
Yeah cavemen had shitty lives
huey764 6y ago
Yeah bruv its the first job ever or some shit like that
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BasedAndRedPilled_ 6y ago
“Prostitution has been around since the beginning”
The same thing can be said about assassins, does that mean that’s an acceptable profession as well?
throwawayandtossout 6y ago
My comment had nothing to do with acceptability or respectability, but rather moreso in response to the commenter who I responded to.
randarrow 6y ago
Yet another reminder that internet forums are only discussing personality disorders. You didn't need TRP, woman was simply bipolar. Moving on wws right thing.
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