There are more and more business, dating, lifestyle, and personal transformation gurus than ever before. Selling courses, counseling, and coaching at a heavy price. Most of these “experts” never sell anything original - it is just watered down concepts and advice sold in a new shiny wrapping.
I have acquaintances that have bought into pick-up bootcamps, paying 1000 dollars for a weekend - none of them get any better results than the ones that learned through free content and forums on the internet. Some of them are still struggling on the same level they were a couple of years ago.
I have a close friend that paid the same amount of money for a meditation course. Where he was given a “special mantra”. He later told me that he found the instructions and his personal mantra on the internet for free.
I paid 12 dollars for Roy Masters meditation audiobook “Be Still And Know” which you can find for free on YouTube.
Realize your favorite self-development guru has learned from someone else “above them” - the real experts. You can learn from these originators at a fraction of the price your favorite guru wants you to pay.
These self-proclaimed mentors often follow the same format. Many will have a YouTube account in order to generate, leads, traffic, and build up trust with their audience. This is done by giving away free value and content in order to establish their brand.
Another side effect of giving away free content is that it leaves the potential client with thoughts such as - “Well if all this great content is free, imagine what the paid product will do for my life”
The truth is that the product being sold to you will likely contain the same information that you can buy as a book on Amazon for a few dollars instead of hundreds and thousands through an online course.
The YouTube videos will contain a link to a landing page for the product steeped in marketing techniques such as scarcity marketing, big colorful buttons, and graphics. It will contain powerful statements such as:
- “Live An Incredible Life...NOW”
- “Feel Unstoppable In Your Personal and Business Life”
- “Unleash your Authentic Self”
You get the message - what’s funny is once you have seen one landing page you have seen them all. Another strategy you will come across is the discrediting of the original source and author.
“Sure all these books and authors are great, but they don’t teach you how to take practical steps - which I do”
Even well-established success gurus such as Tony Robbins have had personal models. He learned about motivational speaking from Jim Rohn. He learned Neuro-Linguistic-Programming. A powerful system to change habits, emotions, and thoughts, from the co-founder John Grinder.
He re-packaged NLP and incorporated it into his books and seminars. A Tony Robbins seminar called “A Date With Destiny” costs 2,000 dollars.
Richard Bandler’s NLP book “Make Your Life Great” costs 12 dollars. And will contain the same strategies and techniques that Tony Robbins teaches.
So I hope you don’t buy into the hype or let them play on your insecurities. Everything you could ever need in terms of guidance and information is out there for free.

FinancierGuru 5y ago
Word. And Robbins DWD is close to 5,000, although, to be fair, it's 6 days straight in an auditorium packed with thousands.
dendankdame 5y ago
I'm not against teachings. It's just all those people who call themselves teacher also needs to be inventors and must add value for existing norms.
Nowadays teachers act like guardians of popular culture prisons. They give the book and say learn what the book teaches. Their duty is make sure we do, nothing more.
MentORPHEUS Senior Endorsed 5y ago
Valuable advice in a self-help context. Gurus don't always want you to heal yourself and not need them any more. Instead they package just enough info to keep you on the hook wanting more- from THEM. Looking directly to the source material can advance you farther than the author who first introduced you to a topic.
This applies in news. Often stories don't agree with the very source material they cite; even worse, the article's own headline often doesn't even agree with its own body text. Fox and Breitbart are particularly bad offenders here. Check source materials, to obtain the facts you need to make intelligent decisions, and also to monitor the credibility of sources. Make sure to act upon your findings, too many people keep citing the same B.S. sources no matter how many times they are blatantly punked by basic propaganda techniques and small change lies and deceptions.
It applies to material goods. Wherever possible buy up the food chain so to speak, in bulk and from original sources where a channel exists for retail level purchasers. Customers at my B&M business often tell me, "Have you ever looked at (online store)? to which I deadpan, "Yes, I buy from the same suppliers (online store) buys from." You used to have to have a wholesale account and minimum purchase levels, now many suppliers are retailing goods online to the public more cheaply than to some of their longtime wholesale customers!
Zech4riah 5y ago
I totally agree with you. I'd say that about 90-95% is this stuff. Same shit in different kind of package. But I'd also like to point out that:
RobertLongshaft81 5y ago
YOU. NEED. ONE. BOOK.
177 Mental Toughness Secrets of the World Class : The Thought Processes, Habits and Philosophies of The Great Ones. By Steve Seibold.
It will cost you $10 if that.
welderblyad 5y ago
Buddy of mine lost like 100lbs and paid some pick up artist coach dude or whatever a few thousand dollars. They went out a few times but he still got most of his plates off tinder.
I guess it was good for him because it got him out of his shell, made him way more social. He was going out to clubs, getting bottle service, all that shit. This was the guy who was too fat and socially anxious to chill at a house with 4 people in it a few years ago.
Of course I ripped on him about paying a pickup artist coach but hey, he can wipe his ass with 5 grand and not even blink. Dude makes 5-6x what I do.
Perspective is everything. Could he have learned all that online? Sure. Would he have gone out on his own? Probably not.
HumanSockPuppet 5y ago
Put me in touch with this friend. I could use some quick cash lol.
DrunicusrexXIII 5y ago
I think that's the only reason for paying for things like that - it forces you to learn it and do it, because people value the things they pay for. You could theoretically skip college and read the Great Books, and take online courses for free. Do most people do that? No. They need someone else to feed it to them. Otherwise the laptop or the books will just sit there in a shelf. Most people won't read or study, if there isn't a test next week.
grigor47 5y ago
Also degrees are required by most employers. It would be nice if you could take that route though.
fcjnews 5y ago
Unless you're a self motivated super-performer you're probably better off paying.
What I notice is those that spend energy actively calling people stupid for paying are unsuccessful and would benefit the most from it. It's like they're compensating for what they know they need to do.
DrunicusrexXIII 5y ago
That's probably true for most of us. Most people won't even go to the gym for 5 hours a week. And if you're willing to shell out a couple of grand for one of these courses, that probably means you're more motivated than someone who won't spend more than a few minutes reading a blog or a PDF.
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uwey 5y ago
I get it, people would shame you for having the top service when you paid for it.
People want that thing to be unavailable for people with money, in order to live justified way of their distorted logic which ultimately implicate their own potential.
They can make money and their own excuse stop them from owning the future of their self is they believed they can’t, because pretend rich is bad is easier to work hard to be rich.
Edit:was drunk lol
welderblyad 5y ago
I have no idea what you're trying to say...
zUltimateRedditor 5y ago
How much does he make? What does he do?
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idontmiind 5y ago
May you reach the day early when you realize the best source of knowledge are your fuckups and your self-observation skills in life
Davidfosford 5y ago
it's better to learn from other peoples mistakes
vrsatillx 5y ago
Always thought that, i'm irritated that some of my friends are complete fanboys of this types of gurus
RivenHalf 5y ago
Fuck RSD and Tyler and his bullshit
Bunch of frauds
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Often times the original source is pretty obscure and difficult to interpret, especially when I comes to spirituality and religion. Often times getting the concepts in a condensed form from a person who took the time to go through the original text and make the information more relatable is useful. After you get exposure to the concepts and form somewhat of a framework to go off of, you can go to the original text to fill in the nuances. There is benefits in either learning from learners and the original text. This is why people listen to religious leaders and pastors instead of solely reading the religious text.
DubsPackage 5y ago
$1000 is nothing to people who can get good value out of the information.
Like if you're at the stage of professional development to do Tony Robbins, that's the difference between making an extra $2-$3 million in your lifetime.
ProFriendZoner 5y ago
Speaking of NLP, I know someone who started marketing himself as an NLP Coach while taking NLP classes.
MarcosDomingues 5y ago
Most beginners are desperate and don't even know where to start so they tend to latch onto the first person they come across that they think gives them good advice. Most teaching business models profit off of this.
NabroleonBonaparte 5y ago
Imagine spending a G on a meditation course taught by some hipster from Brooklyn NY. People actually paying some soy boy to “teach” them to sit and breathe.
Almost all these “self-improvement” courses are rehashings of things taught by philosophers (Plato, Buddha, etc).
Jkarl1 5y ago
“The mind illuminated” is a great book on meditation.
Jkarl1 5y ago
“The mind illuminated” is a great book on meditation.
Jkarl1 5y ago
“The mind illuminated” is a great book on meditation.
Jkarl1 5y ago
“The mind illuminated” is a great book on meditation.
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k-ma 5y ago
There’s a fair bit of nuance to meditation. Guided meditation can be helpful for many.
I wouldn’t go so far as to call them rehashings. The modern world is drastically different from Ancient Greece or India. Many self-help books are far more relevant for their purpose than ancient philosophy.
NabroleonBonaparte 5y ago
Can the self-improvement industry offer solutions to people? Certainly.
Being introduced to a refurbished concept is better than not being introduced to the concept at all.
There’s far less difference between modern and ancient humans than you’d expect.
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Chromecountry103 5y ago
You don't know what you're talking about my dude.
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maddisser101 5y ago
This is why libraries are important. Free books both in paper and audio.
All of these people just rehash what the ancients have said. You can find the same shit in books like 'Meditations' or '48 Laws of Power.' No need to pay $30 for some bullshit Tim Ferris tell-all. They just say the same stuff but with more buzzwords.
SKRedPill 5y ago
For all those who don't want to walk the hard road.
ZeppKfw 5y ago
Money fixes everything... right??
SKRedPill 5y ago
If it fixed you it would be perfect.
0ToTheLeft 5y ago
Your view is missing one key aspect, and that the psicological hook that some things can have. Is not about if the content is the same or not, some people have the ability to put that content in your head more way more effectible that you will do reading the 12$ book by your own. Some people don't need help, they just need the information and they will get things done withouth help, but some people do, and that is the people that most likely will buy the book and never read it, or read it and do nothing with it.
If you put 1000 dolars in something, there is a very good chance that you will invest the time and effort to make that money worth. I'm not saying that paying 1000 dolars to some stupid youtube influencer is the way to go, but for some people it will help (assuming that the dude is not bs and is actually selling something good), after all, 1000 dolars for changing your life is still very cheap. We spend far more money in things that we don't need and that won't really make our lifes better.
There is more than one path to success, while the fundamentals are always the same, different people will need/take different paths. Dont try to box everything in such a simplistic way of thinking.
Greek-God-Brody 5y ago
Very valid point. Investing money into something makes it much more likely that you're gonna commit to it. You are also paying for your time. Finding out something on your own through reading, research is going to take a lot of your time, time better spent elsewhere. Getting mentors, coaches is the right thing to do if you value your time
party_dragon 5y ago
If $1000 could change a person's life, the world would be completely different than the one we live in today. Can it happen? Sure. Reliably for most people? Not really. It's mostly a matter of luck...
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My parents spent $1000 on TM meditation (transcendental meditation) 17 years ago.
This thing saved my life. Sometimes it's not how much you spend on something, but the value you get out of it. Sure I could have googled the special mantra I received, but 17 years later, I'm still leveraging TM to go through my divorce, my wife's false allegations of rape against me, and her denying access.
bigredten 5y ago
If I knew this years ago I could've saved thousands of dollars, no regrets though.
Some things have accelerated my results fast enough. At the end i would say I broke even.
If the first product leads to an upsell or I notice I'm getting put in a funnel "This product will change your life!" Then I usually just exit the sight.
Usually I question whether their success comes from what they teach or just selling. I can't knock the hustle though, I respect that.
Noodlesoupe2 5y ago
As other commenters said, paying money for something and actually being forced to go out and interact with people can provide motivation that may not manifest by buying a book. Also it helps to have an actual real life person give you one on one guidance. It’s like reading a book as opposed to being taught
anonymous8452 5y ago
Thank you for sharing The Source. Can you recommend more authors that belong in that category, especially some talking about finances and/or managing a business? I'm looking for a Finances 101 type of book to start. I'm sure I'll want to read more advanced books after.
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