Who's startled? Girls love it when you shove them up against the wall loud enough to make a sound, when you pin their arms, when you pull their hair, and when you spank them. Girls love being dominated.

Caveat: By an attractive man. An unattractive man being aggressive is attempted rape. An unattractive man they're actually dating for some reason being aggressive is creepy and weird. But an attractive man being aggressive gets a woman hot.

If you pin your woman's arms during sex or spank her on the ass, and instead of getting hot, she stops and asks you what the fuck you're doing, surprise, you're beta!

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sweeptheleg55 7y ago

This was and still is the most difficult thing to learn as a man. There is a major lie we are told when we are young and if we want success with women you have to kind of unlearn it. Even women dont know that they taught it to us. I date 30 somethings and get told how nice it is to be with someone like me and the story about their exes being asses. Then theres always these moments that pop up where they have to find a way to tell me to just dominate them. To exit this trained in mode of thought that we are equal partners. Which is what they intellectually and emotionally wanted at some level. But they are deeply attracted to teh domination and unequal partners thing.

This paradox that exists deeply in the female mind. If you listen to their words they will turn you into something they will never want to be with as a man. Its sad to date so many "feminist" that all fit into this pattern but dont realize women have some responsibility for created dominating men. Like i hear a lot of bitching about how men are shitty... without the admition the only reason they are that brand of shitty is they turned themselves into what women are attracted to. Boys essentially try to morph whatever they are into something attractive to a woman. Shitty men are created by the easy confidence shortcuts boys learn they can take early on and the women who dont take responsibility for falling for it.

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Well put.

I know a blueper who once asked me how to tell if a girl wants to be choked during sex. I gave some bs answer cos he's a massive simp and I wasn't looking to out myself but the truth was

they don't want to be choked by you, because you're a loser and no one wants to be dominated by a loser

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Virtual_silver 7y ago

You took a CPR course just to choke bitches better? That s impressive.

Imperator_Red 7y ago

Yea I had a girl that wanted to get dominated. Slapped her ass and choked her a bit. She kept saying harder. Finally she said “leave a bruise.”

I said fuck no

Another time I was making out with a chick outside a bar after a first date. I ever so gently ran my hand up her neck and tugged her hair and she lets out this long moan.

Lol how can anyone not be red pilled? It’s so obviously true

CainPrice 7y ago

It's gotten to the point where guys are just expected to know that girls like it rough. However hard you think is hard, fuck her about twice as hard as that. No more than twice as hard - don't go crazy - but fuck harder than you think is hard. And pulling hair and spanking is just a given - if you don't know to do that, girls think you're a wussy loser who doesn't know how to fuck.

There's not supposed to be a conversation where girls tell you they like it rough. You're supposed to just know that girls like that. If you're gentle, soft, and romantic, that outs you as a guy who's never been part of the casual sex culture. They know you're a guy who doesn't fuck and you won't get a repeat visit.

Choking is a bit of a special case. A girl you're hooking up with for the first time will freak the fuck out if you choke her. That's something that needs a few fucks to get into.

Andrew54321 7y ago

Just fuck her like its the last time you’re ever gonna fuck her. Like deployed tomorrow WW2 marine last time.

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TheEgyptianConqueror 7y ago

Don't think he really was directing it at you. I think he was piggybacking off your comment

BumblingBeta 7y ago

However hard you think is hard, fuck her about twice as hard as that. No more than twice as hard - don't go crazy - but fuck harder than you think is hard.

And because more women are overweight these days, they need to be fucked harder to actually feel it more. You have to fuck her 2-3 times harder than you normally would, so she actually feels it through all the excess fat (or as they like to call it "thickness").

wowmansohacked 7y ago

Lmao are you out there fucking fatties bro?

Virtual_silver 7y ago

He using his harpoon for whale poon

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CainPrice 7y ago

You fake it the first few times. The huge body of pick-up literature, Red Pill theory, and so forth helps a man who is not part of the casual sex culture understand how the game works. That way, he can act like a guy who fucks and a guy who gets it, even though he's never been a part of the casual scene, and trick some girls into fucking him.

After you've had casual sex with a dozen women that way, you don't have to fake it any more because you're actually a part of the casual sex culture. You get it and you know how the game works, you've interacted with enough women to understand what women are like and how they operate when they're down for casual sex, and with each woman, you learn a little more.

RStonePT 7y ago

Classic on the secret society

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redpillschool Admin 7y ago

The Atlantic is blaming it on porn, as though men picked up on it and started doing something women hate.

Maybe it is porn's fault. Because women realized they've all got fantasies about it.

Nicolas0631 7y ago

Porn replicate what both sex want. There no point to make movies that nobody would watch because they are not interrested and even about 1/4 of the audience are women.

novalentineforyou 7y ago

Absolutely incredible. I started choking and playing rough because women I've been with said they liked it. Literally the only reason. I'm not into it but girls are.

silent_dominant 7y ago

I guess sexual preferences are next to be added on the list as being a "social construct".

Retarded neo-marxists are at it again

wowmansohacked 7y ago

It’s so funny. Before I found the red pill I was such a pussy and insecure person in the bedroom. This is one of the things that made me seek out the red pill. I wasn’t getting what I wanted in the bedroom and was too insecure to assert my dominance there. That totally changed after TRP. Instead of asking I just tell and LEAD in the bedroom. Women love to be lead by a man with good frame who is not a slob. Choking, spanking, smacking, hair pulling. All of that shit is on the table when you aren’t a giant pussy and apply red pill principles.

Don_Himself 7y ago

If you liked this article you may also like:

"The Startling Rise of Men Enjoying Big Perky Tits During Any Context"

DeChef2 7y ago

Why would there ever be a rise?

andreas-mgtow 7y ago

This is a trend that is becoming the new "normal". I've met more and more women who are into choking, "fish hooking", "cock slapping", "Doggy + finger in her butt", "gagging" and anal, and one bitch that got insta nexted for suggesting pegging.

Women in the 20-26yo range are so desentisized to normal sex from watching hard core and riding the CC hard that regular intercouse / mild kinks, do nothing for them.

Johnnyvile 7y ago

I actually think porn has something to do with this. It gets introduced in video, guys watch it, younger women wanting attention see that guys like this so they do it to get a guys attention, guys then do it with women, and success.

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lifeisweirdasfuck 7y ago

This is one of the harshest Black Pills out there.

DigitalDragonSlayer 7y ago

Yeah comment saved. Real shit

lifeisweirdasfuck 7y ago

Yeah same. It reminds me to release my sexual side to the limits.

dsade 7y ago

War Brides

Women are bio-chemically programmed to react strongly to rape....as long as it's by the "victorious conqueror".

Say, for example, her tribe of men including her husband were slaughtered in battle. Now the conquerors come to claim the women. They could 1) resist and probably be killed or 2) "learn" to like it and make the best of a shit situation.

Oxytocin, while being a strong bonding hormone, is also a "reset" hormone. WHich means when they orgasm during the rape, their mind then erases the old bond and bonds them to their new master.

Another reason why promiscuous women are, and always will be, damaged goods. The brain can only do this so many times before bonding mechanisms become broken and they are unable to bond to anyone.

OptimalPlankton 7y ago

Have you got any proof or are you talking out of your ass here?

Imperator_Red 7y ago

“Do you have any evidence for your position? Sources! Do my research for me!”

lala_xyyz 7y ago

that's impossible to prove but makes logical sense. that most women are whores is an observable fact, with whoredom and absence of mate loyalty being a genetically transmittable behavior, as is the fact that twice as many women reproduced than men, and in many cases that we have the genetics evidence (such as the Yamnaya spread) almost all men were killed and most women were absorbed by the conquerors.

MaggieAndTheMossies 7y ago

Seems like you're talking out your ass

lala_xyyz 7y ago

those are all facts corroborated by studies

MaggieAndTheMossies 7y ago

I feel like alienating half of the world's population is a pretty stupid thing to do. Where are these studies may I ask?

lala_xyyz 7y ago

Women were nothing but gatherers and baby factories for the majority of this species' existence. It's not alienation, it's returning to their natural condition. What specific statement do you need references for?

MaggieAndTheMossies 7y ago

You stated that "most" women are whores" without any proof to back that up. You then stated that studies backed this up without actually giving proof of that. It just seems like you're dehumanizing women for no reason.

lala_xyyz 7y ago

You stated that "most" women are whores" without any proof to back that up.

LMAO get the fuck out of this subreddit.

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dsade 7y ago

I'll try to find the papers I was reading on it. There are plenty already available on why women orgasm (and get wet) during rape, as well as multiple papers on the role of Oxytocin (released during orgasm) in bonding/resetting.

ConfidentActuator 7y ago

I haven't really encountered a woman who either didn't like to be choked or get to like it when introduced. Don't even get me started on the whole rape fantasy - it's like holy grail of AWALT. I also don't believe it has anything to do with 50 shades per se, it seems hardwired very deep within. On the other hand not many of those same chicks liked to be slapped, for example.

TheEgyptianConqueror 7y ago

Fifty shades was successful because it appealed to something already hard wired in women, not the other way around

Oktarheel 7y ago

5 years ago fucked a chick who asked me to choke her. I was shocked. Ever since then I’ve done it with every one of the chicks I’ve banged since her, and they all like it.

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monsieurhire2 7y ago

Ha, choking? choking?

That's nothing.

Here's an article on how a reporter who went to a third world country, experienced PTSD, then sent for a male friend to have violent sex with her that involved punching her in the head with a pillow acting as an intermediary. She says it helped cure her PTSD.

Now, I'm not going to condemn her for doing this or trying this. In fact, I appreciate her bravery and honesty in admitting what she did in her personal life.

But it just amazes me that she has male "friend" she can just summon to do these kinds of transgressive things, without the guy having much fear that it will later blow up in his face. I mean, what if it had failed, or made the PTSD worse. Then she might have blamed the guy, and / or he might have faced legal liability. Obviously there must have been some level of trust between the two of them.

Did he get paid for his services? Of course not. The sex was the payment.

https://www.good.is/articles/how-violent-sex-helped-ease-my-ptsd

https://abcnews.go.com/Health/reporter-mac-mcclelland-violent-sex-ease-post-traumatic/story?id=13995013

ZachMeadows 7y ago

Reversing this idea, does it mean that any women into ultra 'kinky' (aka violent) sex is a red flag for huge past trauma ?

I believe so. But than again, this kind of sex is fun so...

monsieurhire2 7y ago

Two of my exes who were into it claim past trauma as the reason. The saner one explained the trauma and how it related. The crazier one would never tell me what she thought really inspired it. She had all kinds of crazy stories that were like something out of the Twilight Zone. And of course the crazier one provided the crazier, though not healthier sex.

halfback910 7y ago

He... punched her... with a pillow? Huh.

monsieurhire2 7y ago

The pillow was to keep from breaking her jaw. Nonetheless, it is still a closed-hand strike to the head. Multiple ones too. In the context of the bedroom. And also, there was thought on her part that went into it. She asked for something specific. Specific precautions were taken.

My guess is that it is connected to white western guilt at feeling responsible to what goes on in the third world as a beneficiary of exploitation, that she felt she needed to expunge with an exercise in flagellation. I think she witnessed a rape, or talked to a rape survivor, one who experienced a very harrowing rape, and so felt somehow like she was fractionally to blame for an atrocity. And I can relate to that, though I'm not sure I would want someone to punch me in the face over it, as that wouldn't do any good.

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CainPrice 7y ago

When they don't exist, they don't matter and have nothing to lose. No expectations, no standards. They can do whatever they want and not feel like they're failing themselves or anybody, and whatever happens doesn't matter. Even if they die, it doesn't matter because they were just animal flesh anyway.

Only by being nothing to anybody can they finally be free, but the hard part is convincing their sense of self that they're nothing.

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Only by being nothing to anybody can they finally be free, but the hard part is convincing their sense of self that they're nothing.

Which is why weak people keep edging for a downward spiral until a political decision such as ethnic replacement does it for them.

CainPrice 7y ago

"Ethnic replacement" is a really weird-ass theory that makes things more complex than they need to be.

A small cadre of really rich people makes money when the general public is oblivious, placated, and consumes shit. So the media encourages degeneracy and non-productivity for the non-rich to keep the rich people rich.

Adding this level of conspiracy theory to a bunch of rich money-makers, where they all have this moral bias against whites and want to replace them with minorities through a bunch of political movements that make whites not breed and make minorities breed more - that's just loony toon 4chan stuff.

Nobody's out to get whites and promote [[[[[teh jewzzzz]]] and their agenda to replace white people. It's just rich people getting rich on the backs of the non-rich. Business as usual.

scissor_me_timbers00 7y ago

But who are “the rich”? Hint: Teh Jewz

I jest. I’m in the habit of trolling a mega lib buddy of mine w stuff like this.

[deleted] 7y ago

I implied whites are dying out via nihilism. You implied a projection that did not exist in my analysis. Therefore you are an retard.

TheRealShafron 7y ago

I remember hearing on a podcast that the rise of choking during sex is probably due to how feminized men are becoming in the recent times and most females (the ones that are into choking) just want a reminder that men can be masculine and dominate them (in bed atleast).

Ramp_Up_Then_Dump 7y ago

He mentioned spesific "how to" videos. Anyone know them?

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_do_not_read_this_ 7y ago

Executive summary: they all love being choked.

GodOfDinosaurs 7y ago

Ok. The article is about women NOT enjoying being choked. Nobody commenting here even clicked the fucking article.

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adriano515 7y ago

Did you actually read it? It says " Twenty-three respondents described scary situations related to choking. " let that sink in. 23 out of like 1000 women felt scared during choking. Thats a 0.023% of women who felt scared because of choking.

Thats an irrelevant number. It would've been nice to see the question being asked if they had a positive experience when choking was involved though.

Edit: adding " Most of the choking instances described appear to have not been discussed by partners in advance; the other person just started choking the respondent. " so as /u/CainPrice mentioned above

Choking is a bit of a special case. A girl you're hooking up with for the first time will freak the fuck out if you choke her. That's something that needs a few fucks to get into.

GodOfDinosaurs 7y ago

about 1/4 felt scared at some point and 23 were scared due to choking. Every comment on this thread is "hurr durr ofc bitches love being choked we all knew this" when that is literally the opposite of the information included in the article.

It's clear nobody here read it.

valenin 7y ago

Does it go on to explain how 50 Shades didn’t get people who haven’t been in a bookstore since they bought Harry Potter (which success involved appealing to both genders, so twice the potential audience...) back into Barnes and Noble?

GodOfDinosaurs 7y ago

Why is that relevant? That has nothing to do with all of the commenters who failed to actual read the article.

valenin 7y ago

If the article is about women not enjoying being choked, then it’s just a fairy tale, and nobody should bother to read it for anything besides entertainment.

Because the phenomenon of 50 Shades of Grey (as well as a not small body of research, and an even bigger body of anecdotal evidence in the wild) suggests that there are a significant number of women who do actually like various darker activities.

GodOfDinosaurs 7y ago

Yes, obviously there are many women who like kinky sex. The point of my comment is that many people were commenting "why is this news" thinking they were CONCURRING with the article whereas if you actually read the article it's clear that nobody actually bothered to even click the link.