To put things into perspective, I (M 20) and my GF (F 21) had been dating/together for four and a bit years. Typical high school sweethearts, we wanted to move away and start our own lives after college.
Ok great, so here we have a man who rather than spinning plates during his youth has settled with one girl. Now bluepill me from a few years ago would say this was true love. That such a relationship must be solid as most relationships during highschool don't last that long. These two must be very deeply in love.
This isn't the case, this man didn't bother going after other girls due to his gf being a buffer against rejection. Basically if he dumped her, then he'd have to go out in the harsh dating game, he could just be comfortable with this girl and stay with her instead.
We decide to spice things up a bit and “open” up our relationship a little. It was pretty much a join decision but looking back she was kind of insistent on the whole “sex is fun” idea.
So basically she's getting ideas now. Ideas of branch swinging. She wants out buddy. So why doesn't she just cheat? Simply put, her hamster will let her rationalize that this isn't cheating as he agreed! So what if he says no then? Then clearly she's isn't going to look for other men!
Real desire cannot be negotiated
If he said no, her hamster would spin. She'd cheat, but spin it in her favour saying that her bf was controlling, he was controlling her sexuality by saying no to the open relationship. So she just had to!
She is on a night out with some friends when she phones me and asks if the whole open relationship thing is still cool, explaining she’s met a guy (M 24) and asks for me to pay for a hotel because she wasn’t working at the time. I agreed. I tell her to go for it, and she does. She texts me to say she had a good night and that all was well.
Now OP you might as well have dumped her at this point. She didn't ask your permission if the open relationship thing was cool. How do I know? Because she met and spoke to this guy before your phone call. This guy seduced your gf before the phone call. Your gf if she was unsure about the open relationship thing, she'd have told you before she went clubbing. She rang you for money. You are literally being a beta bux at this point!
The week after, she mentions she’s meeting up with this guy again. Wasn’t expecting it but I’m cool with it. Again, asks for me to pay for her hotel. A decision I would live to regret. She doesn’t text me the entire night. Weird, but okay maybe she’s just having a good time?
The dick was good. She's wanting a second sample. She only told you so that she has money for the hotel. She'd not ask the guy, because that would make her look low value to the guy.
The next day I receive a load of messages about how she needs a “break” from “everything” right now. Meeting this guy has apparently opened her eyes. A little more conversation and we’re over. She’s completely cut me out of her life. I check her snap chat story, and of course, she’s with him. I’ve heard from her friends that they’re dating now.
You my friend have been branch swung now. Hypergamy is a bitch. The signs were there from earlier, you decided to ignore them because of fear of losing a partner. Just as women are excellent at rationalizing, we men are excellent at denying. You agreed to this open relationship thing because you were scared she'd be lost. Oneitis.
By the way. The fact they're dating within a week? Doesn't that suggest she knew him from before?
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yomo86 7y ago
It is wonderful. It is always a break never a quit. Should things turn sour this little bitch pays for a hotel room once again.
zyqkvx 7y ago
If she's talking about an open relationship 'the glass is already broken' (google for more info). She's gone. I'm not sure if it matters if you fuck her on the way out. Saying 'no' to the open relationship wouldn't help because if she abided she'd still have that sex monster within her.
Basically he had 'his turn' that ended when she asked the question.
Obermarschall 7y ago
The worst case of cuckoldry ever...Man how can someone have no respect for himself? Can this man watch himself in the mirror?
bsutansalt 7y ago
I've said it before and I'll say it again:
You can never open a relationship that was previously closed.
I mean you can, but you're going to get burned in short order because of it. I don't think I've ever seen a real-life example of when this worked out when it was the woman who was getting dicked down by other dudes. The guys bringing back women for threesomes, that's different story since it's more of a shared thing.
VasiliyZaitzev 7y ago
It could have been worse. Hard to imagine, I know, but what if they were married and had a kid? Ugh.
SuperCrazy07 7y ago
Check back on him in 10 years. I doubt he learned anything.
olinvomibo123 7y ago
What the heck did I just read?
ratpoison987 7y ago
Read another version of the same old tired story.
The moral : Pay attention to the signs.
pacjax 7y ago
imagine if his father found out his son was a beta cuck like this
nantucketghost 7y ago
That is truly one of the saddest things I have ever read. This guy was OK with it? I weep for the men in this new generation. The pussification is real.
TheRealMewt 7y ago
I think you're being very loose with the definition of "man", here.
TheImpossible1 7y ago
Blame women's control of society.
Deathrow22 7y ago
I swear some of things i hate the most about this generation is this.
How can fucking MEN be this pussy smh
bleudogs 7y ago
They push boys and men to embrace their “feminine” side and be emotional because that’s what girls want! And this is what happens..
ZeppKfw 7y ago
The constant discouragement of masculinity even if women love it. The men then take it literally.
frooschnate 7y ago
I see this a lot more with millennials than people my age. Gen Z is fucked in terms of not having traditional values cause of shitty or non existent parents/role models. Basically the same as them, but instead I see more men playing into it instead of bending over.
Of course there are plenty of pussies and weak dudes, but the angle they take is more of a scarcity mindset and depending too much on their girls.
I’ve never met someone who would pay for their girl to be fucked by someone else. That’s some millennial reddit shit.
BickNoyd 7y ago
You do know Millennials and Gen Z aren’t the same thing right? Your comment was very hard to follow
frooschnate 7y ago
Damn I didn’t know that, wanna expand on it?
BickNoyd 7y ago
Baby Boomers: Rejected the values of their World War 2 parents- terrible idea in retrospect. (Hippies, anti-Vietnam War etc.) Gen X: Children of the baby boomers. Superficially edgier but more in common with traditional values than we are today. Think Nine Inch Nails and Fight Club. Gen Y: Also known an Millennials, born roughly between 1980-2000, far more disillusioned with the world and influenced more by the internet. Gen Z/Zoomers: As far as I know their sort of social trends aren’t fully understood and they kind of blend with Millennials. I’m presuming these are the fidget spinner/Fortnite types though haha
frooschnate 7y ago
I’m 19 turning 20, supposedly the first wave of Z. I see Millennials as the avocado toast, awful with money, socially anxious, bad job, even worse career choices and useless diplomas. Along with this constant whining and bitching about everything. That’s my take.
With people my age is harder to judge since most of this generation hasn’t graduated high school yet, and probably none have graduated college.
I do see a pushback on political correctness, feminism, socialism, and all the social justice bullshit, from men and women too. I read somewhere that Z is one of the most conservative gens to come along in some time, and while that seems hard to prove since most of them can’t vote or use their brains yet, it would make some sense based on what I’ve seen.
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I'm 40, and I've observed this about Gen Z as well. The Millennial Liberals were so dead sure that "the world will skew liberal more and more, forever" after G.W. Bush and during Obama. What they failed to factor into that was their own incessant need to browbeat and finger-wag at everybody, nonstop, 24/7, to the point where nobody wanted to fucking hear it anymore. Now they just look like cranky old people doing what cranky old people do, and naturally, the younger generation doesn't want to fucking hear it. (Lord knows I didn't want to fucking hear the B.Boomers and their shit. Still don't.) That said, I keep telling people tha tthe core of the Millennial generation has got to be THE "uncoolest" generation in living memory, and that's also including Gen Z, who mostly seem like they don't want to grow up being complete fucktards like their older brothers and sisters, while already having a better head for irony and nuance.
Ivan_The_Reddish 7y ago
The problem is Millenials were fucked by their parents. Anxious? That's what helicopter parenting does to a kid. Useless diploma? Go to college and you'll definitely be able to support a family of four off of one income with your fine arts degree, don't worry about putting yourself five or six figures in debt. Career choices? Luckily for you you, your six figure degree qualifies you to work as an assistant manager in retail. Bad with money? What's the point when you owe your soul to the student loan company. And add on top of that that their parents probably never taught them anything constructive about personal responsibility or being proactive, and you end up with a generation without the ability to climb out of the hole they were shoved in. (The US at least)
BickNoyd 7y ago
Yeah I’m 24 so I think I’m right at the tail end of being a Millennial. Even though it’s not a description of me I’m appalled that my generation is the ‘snowflake’ (controversial word) group who stifle debate, shut down things they don’t agree with and give credence to any ridiculous idea in the name of ‘tolerance’ or ‘diversity’, I hope that Gen Z push back against that sort of thing cos it’s really damaging society
frooschnate 7y ago
Yeah I think that’s happening, not sure about the States, but where I’m from in South America it definitely is that way. Everyone is tired of their bullshit.
BickNoyd 7y ago
But I agree the morals of people nowadays are just shocking, honestly it’s been directly downhill since the 60s
frooschnate 7y ago
Everytime I hang around my little brother and his friends shit’s just shocking.
These lil 16 and 17 year olds coming back from just fucking some hoe and telling their girls they love them on the phone. Fucking hookers, having threesomes and shit. And all this coming from really wealthy families and households.
They are enjoying the decline at its maximum and great for them. But the complete lack of morality and values is there, and it’s worrying. A lot of them are sociopathic
BickNoyd 7y ago
Hmm yeah, at the risk of sounding chauvinistic though I think the worst change is how women are now encouraged/expected to behave, the fact that even extreme promiscuity is now seen as normal means that committed relationships have been completely undermined and are very hard to pull off. It isn’t normal, even up until the 80s many women only had one sexual partner- the many they had married or would marry. And then when this permissive culture begins to take its toll on a long-term relationship/marriage you can just divorce at the drop of a hat and throw everything into chaos- particularly bad for children involved. It honestly is an awful time to be alive
SuperCrazy07 7y ago
I mean, this just isn’t true.
Baby boomers at one point were the free love, Woodstock, sexually free generation.
Unless you meant the 1880s.
BickNoyd 7y ago
It’s very surprising but true that until the 1980s in the US around 30-40% of women had one sexual partner: their husband or the man who they would then go on to marry anyway. The baby boomers had a huge cultural impact and fashions, social trends and norms, level of drug-taking etc. did all change- but only 5% or so of their generation were hippies and many people still remained socially conservative. I’ll try to find the study (it was a big, reliable study about various decades) on sexual partners I read this in but I saw it ages ago
frooschnate 7y ago
It’s a shit time to raise a family and have a fulfilling life. Great for fucking hoes and living care-free while focusing completely on yourself and being nihilistic.
BickNoyd 7y ago
Yeah but I think what you come to realise is that pleasure is temporary and happiness is what you should strive for, it’s just sad that family has been sacrificed for the sake of drug-taking and promiscuity, fun though they may be
frooschnate 7y ago
That’s how I see it too. I never smoke cigs, rarely smoke weed, nowadays drink very little and not that often. I know that if I go into my 20s well prepared instead of wasting them I’ll thank myself later.
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lala_xyyz 7y ago
How can anyone be this retarded?
7thAnvil 7y ago
Paying for a hotel room so 'your' girl can fuck another dude is beyond Beta Bucks; it's Cuck Cash.
bsutansalt 7y ago
lol, Cuck Cash sounds like it should be the name of a PH channel. Pay dudes to let the porn stars bang his girl a la Indecent Proposal and record the sex, but also his reaction to the video. This could actually be a good niche business opportunity, especially with more and more soy boys bring created year after year. BRB...
Marsupian 7y ago
Imagine banging some girl and having her boyfriend pay for your room.
max_peenor 7y ago
Imagine getting picked up by her fiancé at the airport, brought back to their place, bought dinner and then railing the ever living shit out of her after he goes to bed early because he has to get up. And then railing her after he heads to his job. She couldn't ditch him like the last time we hooked up because he wouldn't leave her side, so she had ZERO guilt in fucking in their place.
He was completely blind-sided when she dumped him a couple months later. Dude.
ex_addict_bro 7y ago
Imagine him raising your offspring and paying for it.
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Hi_its_me_Kris 7y ago
With makes me wonder if the other guy posts here.
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AreOut 7y ago
there are guys paying other dudes to fuck their girl and enjoying it...it's not just porn thing, it really exists
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TheNashvilleConnxion 7y ago
This one is so obvious and so pathetic that there's really nothing to be said about it.
dkirkpatr 7y ago
Hope he learned something. If he did he got off easy
Project_Zero_Betas 7y ago
Yeah who would agree to that situation at such a young age? Almost positive it's pure fiction.
0io- 7y ago
I assumed this was r writingprompts fake, who would actually do such a thing?
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PhilemonTheSuperior 7y ago
I can't attest to this story's veracity but trust me, people do this shit. Every stupid, insane, improbable thing you can think of, there is at least 1 person who has either done it, or experienced it. And being a doormat is far from improbable.
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bsutansalt 7y ago
Might be rare, but I have no doubt it does occur from time to time. I can't tell you how many times I've seen guys fall for the trap of opening their relationships only to get branch swung. "Oh he's just a friend..." riiiiight.
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blearx 7y ago
How have we come to the point where this is something acceptable? This is beyond stupid, that guy has no manliness left in him whatsoever. I truly believe that you'd have some form of repulsion at the thought of having your GF fuck another dude but this guy even paid for their room. I can't comprehend how insane this is.
Project_Zero_Betas 7y ago
Agreed, as stupid as blue pilled cucks who think beta feelings are the be-all concern in life.
OptimalAdhesiveness 7y ago
I think the gf wanted to break up for a while like OP here states, but didn’t wanna be the bad guy. So she kept putting down terms she thought would be too extreme for her bf to agree to, but he just kept going with it.
Open relationship? Sure! You found a guy in one night at a club? Go for it! Oh you need a place to cheat on me? No worries!
Finally she realized he has zero backbone and would probably suck this others dudes dick if she asked, so she took the hint and had to actually end things herself. I can only blame her so much though, this is like when a parent lets a child eat all the candy they want then they get sick. It’s like yeah maybe you should have said something at some point...
lobstergenocide 7y ago
You can't blame her at all. She has plenty of girlfriends, why would she want to date one?
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baddogkelervra1 7y ago
That's missing the point entirely. Patrice encouraged people to do whatever freaky shit they wanted, he didn't give a fuck. In his own life, he advised killing your attachments so that you could walk out on anyone in 30 seconds like DeNiro in Heat. The whole point of him talking about that was to ensure that you totally understood women for what they were without elevating them above their nature. His girlfriend actively recruited women for threesomes and they went to swingers parties, so he was clearly into more experimental stuff. You don't have to endorse everything a person recommends, I know I certainly don't agree with Patrice 100%. But calling Patrice a cuck lord is just stupid. There's a big difference between an alpha literally not giving any fucks about women to the point that he has moved beyond jealousy, and a cuck paying for someone to fuck his girlfriend in a hotel.
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baddogkelervra1 7y ago
Yeah, the other guy. Not himself. Patrice didn’t judge or give a shit, as long as it made people happy. Like I said, I don’t agree with him on everything, and I’d never want that for myself or my friends. He also didn’t advocate that for everyone, and tells loads of guys to get smart and dump their bitches when they get out of line. This guy was clearly into cuckoldry, so Patrice says fuck it go for it. He also said the same shit about the chicks in “Two Girls, One Cup,” and there’s a whole episode about how that should teach guys that women ain’t shit. Patrice believed in being yourself truly and without reservation, so he called women bitches to their faces and told some guys to be cucks if they enjoyed it.
hearse223 7y ago
Also reminder that the man is a comedian, not a philosopher.
the_Milkweed 7y ago
He isn't a very good example, patrice o'neil is an anomaly within itself. Firstly, he was outrageously unhealthy and he knew it, and he knew how much that had an effect on his SMV. He also endorsed it in the same way a police officer endorses you to speak to them. He made it very clear that the only reason he could tell his GF that she could fuck others was because he wanted to fuck others. He explained many times over that she wouldn't wanna fuck some other dude because that would bring her down a peg in his hierarchy. He knew, that she knew that he brought her too much value (money from comedy and having a black triad male). You obviously were not a big fan of patrice otherwise you would have known this. He is an example of a low SMV male who turned it on its head and became an alpha black triad. PEOPLE HAVE WRITTEN UP HUGE POSTS ON HOW ALPHA HE IS, you have no idea what youre talking about.
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the_Milkweed 7y ago
I have seen them all, hence why I can speak to this and call you a dumbass. In that same vod he talks about how she knows she cant do it because it will lower her position in his life. He explains that he tells her she can fuck others because its only 'fair', if hes going to demand the ability to sleep with other women. He is manipulating her hamster, like a master does. He even says that he doesn't like the idea but it puts him in a 'fuck you' position. she holds no power over him.
You're too emotional and dont know what youre talking about
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the_Milkweed 7y ago
That is a 5 minute clip from a 3 hour podcast. Youre an idiot and you need to find the actual full podcast if you wanna come at me and claim that I haven't listened/watched it. https://www.youtube.com/user/CultOfBlackPhillip
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I will repeat, youre too emotional and dont know what you're talking about. Your username is showing.
Imperator_Red 7y ago
Who cares if it’s a 5 minute segment? If he said he likes to get cucked then he’s a cuck. Wtf is wrong with you people?
the_Milkweed 7y ago
Who cares? someone who isn't interested in context. read the comments on the video, literally everything I have been saying is shared there. He explores this point thoroughly many times on multiple podcasts and he explains that its a power play. It takes all of the power away from her.
Continue to live in your paradigm, you will not grow. I am not advocating the premise of letting others fuck your wife. But its clear that you and the previous user are women who only use emotion when combating ideas.
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the_Milkweed 7y ago
The guy unwilling to look for context
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lobstergenocide 7y ago
Really? Seemed pretty redpilled to me, especially with his bits like "she doesn't want to win, she wants a winner"
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lobstergenocide 7y ago
good luck in your hunt brother! i'm legit interested to watch that cuz that's the last thing I would expect from him given how being non-PC was pretty much his calling card. then again, I guess it says a lot about how our society has regressed since his time that being a cuck would be considered PC...
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lobstergenocide 7y ago
well I would never have expected that but good find
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BACONisKEWLEST 7y ago
Your missing context, I remember this podcast. Patrice was endorsing as a way to take women off a pedestal. Watch her get fucked by another man and it’ll break that part of you that wants to worship them. That was his perspective.
Totsean 7y ago
Bwhahahahahah, holy shit. What an idiot. Kudos to the other guy and the girl for dropping his beta ass. I hope he learned his lesson.
largepaycheckaddict 7y ago
Lol what a loser. Pretty sure most blue pill guys have at least enough brain cells to know when they’re getting cheated on/dumped... unless this “open relationship” nonsense has become more commonly accepted than I’m aware of.
LethalPussyGrabber 7y ago
Jesus Christ what a cuck. How does one have that little self respect. If your girl even suggests some shit like an “open” relationship you dump her faster than you can take a shit.
Happyanduknowitclap 7y ago
Hes just a byproduct of today's society. I dont blame him as an individual at all. It's like blaming someone for being lost when they never had the right map in the first place. Can only hope he realizes that in life you have to maintain boundaries and your own self respect and realize being a doormat to a girl is not the path to her heart like we've all been sold
Redditgoodaccount 7y ago
Are we still at the point that we have to remark not to pay a hotel for a guy to fuck your gf?
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lugrulo 7y ago
There is literally no moral to this story. The guy said “cuck me”, with the open relationship - and then complains?
albino_red_head 7y ago
well, it is on TIFU so at least he knows he fucked up.
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EvilStewi 7y ago
This is insane,
The dude in the story is a huge fkng brainlet.
RednaxB 7y ago
I really hope this guy finds the red pill cause he needs help.
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MattyAnon Admin 7y ago
haha wtf...... paying for her hotel to fuck someone else? This is just retarded.
ex_addict_bro 7y ago
That's called an "open marriage", you should know now, BIGOT
MattyAnon Admin 7y ago
Yeah..... open marriage with committed finances..... what was I thinking questioning this, I should be more woke
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TheAnarxoCapitalist 7y ago
If this isn't the pure definition of monkey-branching, I don't know what is.
grimmygrimgrim 7y ago
It’s amazing how often TRP principals appear all over Reddit.
Is it because Reddit is frequented mostly by young, nerdish guys?
You see countless examples of women admitting they enjoy domination while also being “feminist” over on r/sex
TheRedPike Senior Endorsed 7y ago
Don't hotlink any sub, including out own, please. Break up the link or put it through trp.red archive service or archive.is.
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deathhandmachiavelli 7y ago
I actually love seeing this happen to simps.. It provides me with good entertainment.
albino_red_head 7y ago
At least he posted this on TIFU, so he has some sense that he fucked up royally. He's pretty damn blue for ever buying into the open relationship thing without prospects of his own (after-all, couldn't an "open relationship" mean he's spinning plates and not concerned about the gf label?). I think there's hope for him, yet. Gym, stick to your boundaries and frame. Have all the open relationships YOU want (spin plates).
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McVaghunter 7y ago
It is a bitch but only for the low SMV cucks. For the high SMV men, hypergamy is an advantage.
Bewbman 7y ago
What if you're a high SMV dude who doesn't want a bunch of plates but a loyal girl? Lol
HumptyDumptyFellHard 7y ago
Jesus that was painful to read. I can’t believe that there are guys out there that have no self respect and gratefully allow themselves to get cucked like this. You are paying for a hotel so she can get dicked by some chad right in your face while you don’t do/haven’t one nothing....prime Red Pill theory
mrlympia 7y ago
There's no way you paid money for your gf to get dicked down no way.... fuck
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shaan1232 7y ago
Haha I just read that thread and this was my favourite comment
tenpointmatt 7y ago
Maybe its just 4 years of nonstop fake news and 'some men have vaginas' clown-world insanity, but I am having a hard time these days discerning fact from fiction. My first thought is, this has to be a shitpost.
Is this 'poly'/cuck-fetish/'open-relationship' idea any more widespread now than it was amongst the loser classes 30 years ago? I'm not sure what to believe...
shitposterkatakuri 7y ago
Media is def trying to push it more than before
Hjalmbere 7y ago
I think that if a girlfriend had the unmitigated gall to suggest an open relationship my Spidey senses would have started tingling immediately.
Tousen71 7y ago
Jesus. I actually feel bad for women if they have pussy ass dudes like THIS to choose from. Fuck. Sounds like she made the right move. This loser needs to be weeded out of the gene pool. #EvolveOrDie
ratpoison987 7y ago
We need these guys tho. Could you imagine a world full of alphas. It’d be a constant pissing contest everywhere you turn.
Gnosiis_ 7y ago
True but right now the top 20% needs to be around 40%
ratpoison987 7y ago
Honestly. I’d rather be the only alpha. But that’s impossible. Anything more than me is competition.
I’ve got a feeling I’m gonna put my foot in my mouth here.
But yeah. 40 may be good. May be bad. 40 will stimulate competition. 20 makes us complacent. Only me would definitely make me lazy. I’d be the stereotypical ex-jock with a beer belly at 40 if it was just me.
Think you’re right. 40 would be healthy competition.
KeffirLime 7y ago
Classic case of a guy following words instead of actions.
His alarm bells were ringing, his gut was telling him that something(alot) was off, but she says "all is well, it's just fun, I still love you", so all must be well right?
The reality is, if something feels off, it generally is. If you're having to question her loyalty, or whether she's absolutely into you then she's probably not.
Her actions will tell you all you need to know, if they're not directed at pleasing you, then drop her.
awakenedspirit1 7y ago
I saw this thread. I still remember my blue pill programming. I know he's doing this to "support her". He loves her, and wants her to pursue her dreams. She will OBVIOUSLY support him the same way.
Only to discover, huh, she just was super selfish. It's almost like she was using a different set of rules than him...
Prescription is still the same - gym.
HumptyDumptyFellHard 7y ago
How is gym/lifting going to help this guy? He is obviously an autist if he happily allows his gf to get fucked by a chad.
Impulsive666 7y ago
Lifting gives you a purpose/goal. SMV increases if done properly, which makes life easier in general. But you can't unplug them, they need to find out themselves.
AreOut 7y ago
it doesn't help everyone but it helps many find some self-respect
vicious_armbar 7y ago
Naturally increasing his testosterone which will make him more disagreeable so gets taken advantage of less. Making him more attractive so he has options and is in a position of power.
I don't think he's legit autistic. He didn't sound that way in his post. He just has extreme oneitis and has consumed a shit load of society's propaganda. Which says that he should do whatever it takes to make his woman happy including sacrificing his own happiness, dignity, and self respect.
awakenedspirit1 7y ago
It's funny, I can still remember my old thinking. He thinks he's being supportive. Lifting changes your brain. Helps wake you up. I considered myself liberal, enlightened, and a leader who had the courage to empower women. Lifting helped me see that this was all a trick. Natural testosterone.
the_Milkweed 7y ago
The true cure is deciding not to jump
usegao 7y ago
what the cuck did i just read. surprised she didn't dump him after the first hotel. i bet she said, "i bet i could get him to pay for another night. no i swear! i think he's gay"
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FinancialElephant 7y ago
Plastics are much worse than soy. Not as funny to talk about though.
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Milohk 7y ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8dfiDeJeDU
frooschnate 7y ago
Amazing how it had to be a soyboy
RednaxB 7y ago
I love how angry this guy and the people in his comments are deep inside.
poet_and 7y ago
I love how there's a shit show as soon as someone mentions soy lol
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Milohk 7y ago
Youtube is known for there loose guidelines when it comes to porn.
Heizenbrg 7y ago
That story sounds so fake and also please point to me the research that has been done on Soy, and it better be peer reviewed.
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BobbyPeru 7y ago
I thought it had troll written all over it too
Svartanatten 7y ago
Try DDG "soy+estrogen". It's not clear cut but it's clearly a link....
LiftHeavyFuckSteady 7y ago
DOI: 10.1093/jn/132.3.570S
Here you go. This is the latest credible article I was able to find referring to different studies from the last decade.
tldr: no direct effect on potence and semen quality, lower conentration of sperm which is likely to be related to other reasons.
2 cases of feminization due to drop of T levels of males consuming abnormally high amounts of soy (\~9 times the normal asian consumes) which is likely to be related to a dietary deficit and has not been verified by other studies which state no increase of estrogen levels related to soy consumption.
Overall there is probably a low risk of soy consumption to have any negative effects, but I personally don't consume it since it's no replacement for other micro heavy protein sources and a high chance of GMO.
Brodin69 7y ago
Its all the estrogens women on BC piss into the water. Its turning the frogs gay.
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Heizenbrg 7y ago
Of course I know soyboy I thought you were being serious.
Yakatonker 7y ago
Important thing to note here, people can have "normal T" or "free testosterone" levels however the real test is androgen receptor sensitivity which is what soy actually down regulates. Soy also provides a bump in Estrone(estrogen mimicker).
The kicker above all else, its not even a "complete protein" in terms of Essential Amino Acids(EAAs), but has to be mixed and matched with other proteins if a person is plant based... Plant based diet which originated from a batshit crazy witch who started the cult of Seventh Day Adventistism, which now owns numerous American corporations, Universities and nutrition fronts...
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You got any sources on this stuff? I’d love to read more about it
Yakatonker 7y ago
Soy is also deficient in Cystine. Its not a complete protein, its also highly arguable as to what the government classifies as "essential amino acids" when the body also has a requirement of non-essential amino acids which most plants are flat out devoid in, where as animal meat is quite proficient. The other thing is the bioabsorption of plant protein is vastly inferior compared to animal sources.
Soy has genistein, an isoflavanate. You'll can also find cancer papers talking about genistein's effect on down regulating androgen receptors as a way to target certain cancers via down regulating certain metabolic pathways. Not ideal for a healthy person.
Adventists took over the American Dietetics Association in the 1960s, prior they had their own SDA dietetics association to try to assimilate the rather uncooperative American association. You will also find if you research Adventist corporation holdings, they have a very large and vested financial interest in producing processed foods. They're also the ones pushing the vegan, plant based, vegetarian agenda on the general population in coordination with other key Globalist billionaires, and Global food corporations as is seen in the giant shit show called the "Lancet Eat Study".
Seventh Day Adventism is basically a gigantic death cult, whether this is a byproduct of financial greed or the batshit temerity of their religion started by a woman named Ellen G. White, the outcome is the same on the general population due to their despicable pseudo scientific nutritional propaganda.
It should also be noted the move to introduce certain processed food items was done explicitly for the purpose of population control and reduction, ie "Eugenics". See John Harvery Kellogg's for more on this topic. Cereal was specifically invented with this purpose in mind to blunt reproductive behaviours, while not directly effective its quite efficient at creating fat food addicts...
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Thanks for the reading material and the effort
jinbe12 7y ago
Holy shit man, wtf cant be real lol
785_Exuberant_Bias 7y ago
The story honestly reeks of trolling.
ratpoison987 7y ago
Why. To say shit like this doesn’t happen and it’s an asshole trolling. That’d be just as beta as the original content. Stupid and ridiculous.
Can’t just assume trolling. You’ll miss out on a lot.
omega_dawg93 7y ago
this can't be real... it just can't.
she's not asking the guy she's fucking to pay for the hotel, she's calling her dumb fuck bf... and he's paying!!!
this is beyond pathetic.
ucfgavin 7y ago
Well it was an open relationship...she would still expect her boyfriend to pay for her hotel, duh!
omega_dawg93 7y ago
duh?
in an open relationship, the bf should be paying for the hotel rooms he uses to fuck his women.
the dude she's fucking should be paying for their room.
I'm not funding her fuck session locations... that's the ultimate cuck move besides being there to watch them.
let her pay her own dick bill. duh.
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starkfuture 7y ago
The level of stupidity in these bluepilled cucks is ... I don't have words for it.
Paying for hotel room to get cucked! - no words. It pays to know what a whore is worth.
187oddfuture 7y ago
Truth is stranger than fiction
Howdoiusesync 7y ago
Can someone please explain why these dudes even get into relationships?
What is the fucking point if you're gonna cuck yourself?
sadomasochrist 7y ago
Liberals operate on idealism not pragmatism.
palaceposy6706 7y ago
Lack of proper direction and good (ie masculine) role models before getting into them.
Howdoiusesync 7y ago
you think so? What's weird to me about this story is that why doesn't he just fuck other girls? He's in uni as well, it's not like he's in boarding school for cucks.
Shit like this makes me really feel bad for most guys.
IOwnMyShit 7y ago
His girlfriend had so little respect for him she called him to tell him she was going to fuck a guy and asked him to pay. And he did.
That guy is not hooking up with anyone above a 5 at best if he’s good looking.
CryptoViceroy 7y ago
I found the thread (can't link because bloody automod rules)
Jesus fucking christ, some of these replies are just as cucked as the OP.
and they just get worse
farminggil 7y ago
I remember reading this OP knowing it was going to get posted on this sub. Good god this dude paid for the hotel room that his girl sucked Chad's dick in. Oneitis to the extreme.
Pokeylaw 7y ago
I remember this thread, I think I commented about laughing at him
the-brd 7y ago
That was really hard to read. I guess betas have a role too
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terai-tiger 7y ago
Love is conditional ,love is actually real but a woman would only love you if you offer something in return like status,resources or looks .Man and woman don't love each other unconditionally like parents love their children .This is inherently biological and meant to make you a better man. All that was fine and acceptable until women apparently gave up their gender roles(Being a caring mother and stay at home ,Don't let the hypergamy run riot) and they still expect men to be the providers and earn more ,else they will simply not consider you as a potential mate .
ratpoison987 7y ago
It does. Read the side bar dude.
Then when you’re done. Read it again. Read it until you get all of it. Then you’ll be ready to start understanding.
Impulsive666 7y ago
It's more like "women will choose the highest status male they can get, regardless of past history with other men".
Cods_gift_to_reddit 7y ago
And they see a fantasy of status so when you've been in a LTR for years, other men who are actually lower status than you LOOK higher status to the girl than they actually are.
It's because the other men are new, different, and idolised by the woman.
That's why you can never let a girl in, never let her get to know the real you. Keep yourself a mystery and a fantasy to her
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truest22 7y ago
Why do these stories all begin the same? High school sweethearts
HairyLeek 7y ago
Lol I posted this before and it got removed.
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johncillo 7y ago
I wish this was fake, but I know it isn’t because I was banging a girl whose boyfriend asked her to “brush her teeth” after she met with me. We even had sex one time and her boyfriend knock our door telling her he was leaving. The cuckoldry is real and this generation is fucked.
misls 7y ago
These are obvious situations where the guy is beta. Question is, why are we doing “field report” type reviews for obviously stupid beta shit? It’s no different than (choosing beggars, bridezilla etc..). How is this benefiting anyone here? I think even some really blue pill men would define this situation as absolute cuckery.
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Down vote because......reasons.
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