Well it still took some time after my first experience to get some more good action. (Check post history for original post, can't seem to link it)
SET-UP:
I sadly do not have an exciting story about how I started cold approaching and picking up girls, but I guess I used the more accessible method: Tinder.
What I did:
When I used Tinder a year ago, my photos were shit, I looked like shit and got shit matches in return. This time was different however. I upped my game and my appearance. I got some model grade pictures taken of me by a friend who happened to be a photographer. Funny bio etc, you get it.
There is still more optimizing to do, but basically I got 100 matches in about a week, which is a huge upgrade.
The field report:
This was my second tinder date (first with another girl) and I made the girl travel to my city, which already was a green flag for me. She later told me she was convinced I was a catfish, because I deleted all my social media and am basically untraceable.
We met up and went for a coffee, the weather was extremely good, so soon after we started drinking etc. I had a script in my head for the rest of the day and this is the first time I was actually able to execute it to the dot. I lead her along (which she said later unarmed her). Took her to some cheap pizza place, near my place. Went to my place soon after.
Mistakes:
Along the way I dropt frame quite often, I guess I was lucky this girl was really forgiving in that sense (thanks to appearance probably). I went a bit Billy Beta after dinner when we got to my place, but I recouped and got back into leading.
Back to field report:
I was scared shitless to make a move. I was a 23 y/o virgin who has never been in this situation, so it was quite a comfort zone challenge. After a few hours (!) I finally made out with her and she was all over me. She kept saying that sex wasn't going to happen. I ignored her and teased her in the right way, found her trigger points and continued my game. She kept insisting on it. So after some time I just withdrew attention after triggering her. She kept coming back, watch her actions not her words. This went on for a few hours and it worked so fucking perfectly. I managed to lay her and fucked her in the morning again.
Feelings I had after lay:
I must say that I had zero butterflies and shit. I just executed my game plan and it worked. I felt fucking powerful, to have that ability. The slow build up was way more enjoyable then the actual lay.
No oneitis, no real intention to plate her since she was a little too into me at some point. I could string here along for a few weeks, but I dropped my frame a bit too much to actually want that.
Final thoughts:
This lay finally got me over that anxiety being a virgin gave me. When I downloaded tinder a week ago I was actually scared to start conversation on Tinder, but after a while I got really fucking good at it. I apply the same logic to this lay. This will be a catalyst to actually laying girls more regularly and with an ever upgrading frame.
I feel strong, manly and in the flow. I actually wanted to get back to working on my side business and projects straight after the lay. I have this huge urge to improve myself and build SMV. No time for LTR's.

Comeandseemeforonce 6y ago
Ironically showing billy beta helps sometimes, for them to trust you.
HumanSockPuppet 6y ago
This.
Do not fall into the trap of assuming that beta behaviours have no purpose. They are a tool.
The problem is that most guys use only beta tools their whole lives. And once they switch to the Red Pill, they want to only use alpha tools.
The correct tool varies based on the situation and what you want to get out of it.
iamanenemy 6y ago
This rp attitude of beta being pure evil is silly. It's a perfectly valid mating stratagem. Alpha strategy is risky behavior and physicality. Beta is resource procurement and comfort. Both labels employ things humans seek for quality of life.
m3g4s33d 6y ago
sexual strategy, not mindless AMOGing
555WeWolf 6y ago
Could you give maybe an example or two in what kind of situations can this be used i think it will be easier to understand it like that.
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SlayOfCourage 6y ago
Are there any posts articulating when to use what? I don’t recall anything about the sidebar on this besides comfort tests which would pertain to more of a ltr situation.
Standgrounding 6y ago
In general, (I might be incorrect, but) you want to use a beta behavior to build comfort and trust, at the starting point.
lalaeticia 6y ago
That’s funny. Looking back I could see how that helped me. Should still be careful not to overdo it. It’s a comfortable role to take on, leading takes courage and action.
MLG_Arcane 6y ago
Can you elaborate on how you went "Billy beta"?
Raknith 6y ago
Well he said he didn't make out with her for several hours. So just imagine what they were doing that whole time really.
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alt_account_6 6y ago
Oof I did that last night with my coworker. Ended up waiting 2 hrs
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IvanReilly 6y ago
I wish I'd bothered to make an effort post when I got laid. Instead I went out drinking.
Good for you man
Earl_Nightingale 6y ago
Dude you are fucking dope. You learn fast.
MentORPHEUS Senior Endorsed 6y ago
I had a years-long dry spell in my early 20s after my High School GF, so this story was pleasantly relatable. Now you're off and running, and the good news is that your relative SMV will keep rising for about the next 20 years.
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Shadows1455 6y ago
Congratulations dude ! I'm a virgin too and I'm going to use Tinder very soon (since I finally have nice pictures of me), do you have any advice for the bio ?
lalaeticia 6y ago
Own up to who you are. I proudly state my shitty blue collar student job in my bio. Give it that IDGAF what you think about that line. You‘ll know what I mean.
But underneath that I wrote my current education and my future goals, which are somewhat outrageous, but still easy to bluff in actual conversation. Fake it till you make it.
During conversation make the conversation about you future goals, not about what you do right now. Sell her a fucking dream and her hamster wheel will start spinning, thinking about all the possible beta bux.
Then escalate to a meet up, suprise her by actually not being a beta bux.
???
Profit
DeborahBinLaden 6y ago
Be vague about your goals though. Once someone knows all your aspirations, values etc. It devalues them and makes you less mysterious.
Shadows1455 6y ago
I like that approach, thank you very much, I wish you all the best
LeatherBoundWisdom 6y ago
Congrats! May this be the first of many more!
opper-hombre1 6y ago
Hell yeah bro! Keep improving and bring great!
Jakeisahooligan 6y ago
I’m a 20 year old virgin and this gives me hope, props man. Last time I made out with a girl I got so nervous I forgot what I what I was doing, my heart was racing. She laughed at me and ghosted me and I haven’t had anything since, it makes me too nervous. Keep fighting the good fight, I hope I can do the same.
Rimefang 6y ago
You can use Tinder now with no Facebook?
vCcrfT6AYh 6y ago
i guess i can't call you a virgin on the internet anymore, this is so sad
L3onard3 6y ago
All you other orbiters pay attention to this.
Nice work.
420KUSHBUSH 6y ago
Deleting social media cost me a girl once (no verification for comfort, that sort of thing) although it works wonders for your mental health so it's well worth it
iloveyoudeft 6y ago
How tall are you? Do you put it in your bio?
saveTheFirstWorld 6y ago
Thot's ability to pairbond: destroyed
lalaeticia 6y ago
Woman are gatekeepers for sex and men are gatekeepers for a relationship.
Once I opened the gate I quickly found out that there is no real value behind it, thus making me want to get back to my own goals and side projects.
saveTheFirstWorld 6y ago
One of my anti-trp opinions: Radical selfishness is not virtue. There is no point im achieving stuff for yourself if you stomp on everyone else to get there. That's how we fucked up the west
Save The First World
PepperPottsss 6y ago
Congrats!!! Spinning plates will definitely reflect an abundance mentality and help hold frame. But one thing that PUAs tend to forget is that weakness that you (we) all have...which is...LOVE. No man is immune to it. But you are young, just lost your virginity and thus deserve to have some fun. Remember though, humility and character go a long way.
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I tried Tinder. I got one match with a landwhale with three kids who flaked.
I would get professional photos done, but seeing what my subhuman face truly looks like would be the end of me. Oh well...
henryblazer 6y ago
You make us all proud , nice work!
lawshunts 6y ago
You’re going places kid. Laying the groundwork for a successful future
lalaeticia 6y ago
Thank you man!
Just as I saw this comment, I got conformation for a date with a HB8 next week. She will also be coming to my city. The current girl was a HB6, with good personality though. Fucking glad I got some experience under my belt.
Compound interest already paying off it seems.
philltered 6y ago
Easy there with the HBs. You will come back in a couple of years and laugh at the fact that you call her HB8 :) Slay on
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alittletoosmooth 6y ago
Don't make the mistake that she "likes you too much". Enjoy the time you spend with her and be honest if she asks you what you're looking for. She an adult and can make decisions for herself. If she asks what you're looking for or some other "the talk"-esque question, just be honest with her. You'd be surprised how many girls are ok with keeping things casual.
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rare_specimen_indeed 6y ago
This made me smile. Good job!
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wasveryunpopular 6y ago
100 matches in a week is hella good, I lowkey want to see your profile if you're ok pming
Deathrow22 6y ago
I think it depends in which country and city you live tbh. I was in milton keynes (near london) 2 months ago and had fucking 76 matches in 3 days. Came back to germany and i get 3-4 matches in a week bruh.
DoggodD 6y ago
I second to that, I'd like to see the profile.
Das_Teacher 6y ago
Third, wish I had 100 matches
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ChrimsonChin988 6y ago
I was in your exact shoes 1 year ago. I was 21 at the time. It only gets easier after the first one. I went from 0 to 6 within 10 weeks. Advice you might find helpful: at first, going for more quantity is ok. But start going after higher quality rather sooner than later. Up your standards and thus abundance. Also, focus on becoming better in the bedroom. Upgrade your banging skills.
HillsOfMars 6y ago
Whats your side business and rojects if you’re comfortable saying
Nergaal 6y ago
The whole point of TRP that is hard to explain to a newcomer.
Tek_Analyst 6y ago
Slow build up is always better than the lay.
Just don’t get too caught up in feeling powerful. Realize you CAN have an honest relaxed casual relationship with some of these girls. As long as they aren’t bringing you down or slowing you down, you’re good.
I found that often times I much preferred the casual chill girls that could have real conversations with me than the ones I had to constantly spin and lie to in order to get laid. Gets very very tiresome.
Either way, nice post. Enjoy the ride, you have a long way to go.
Sendmeloveletters 6y ago
I was re-redpilled last year and I’ve been down in the shit for a while. But this post right here of you becoming a man has made so proud of men and our community, and of being a man. I just felt my first heartbeat and am ready to love myself and love the game again. Fuck these hoes. Peace and prosperity.
Zackville 6y ago
I still remember how i lost my virginity. I was 15yo and went to the cheapest brothel in a slum nearby. Paid an amount equivalent to 10,00$ to fuck a girl that was rolling in the ground trying to be sexy. It lasted about 30 min and i was all clumsy and couldn't get to cum. It was nice the feeling of a blowjob for the first time. It was nice the feeling of vagina acomodating my penis for the first time. Despite the dirtyness, it was a good and necessary experience and a lot of changes in my mind happened after that day. When you are not virgin anymore it suddenly has no meaning and you just see that as an old vision of an unexperienced man that i was. I started focusing in what was real important like physical and mind health, family, friends, studying and improving myself. Sometimes i think that if i haven't done that i would probabily had been stuck for a long time in that old mindset i had.
Solomonceed 6y ago
Can you elaborate a bit on what exactly you did when you withdrew attention from her?
This is something I still struggle with. When the „I’m not having sex with you tonight“ comes, I usually have a decent answer like „of course not, I‘m saving myself for marriage“ or „I can‘t promise you that“.
But I struggle with what to do. By ignoring her too much, I feel like I come off awkward, but yeah, somehow withdrawing attention has to be the solution, right?
What do you guys do?
lalaeticia 6y ago
Its like I typed it out in the post.
-Discover what triggers the girl: The girl liked it a bit rough. So whenever I grabbed the back of her head (a strong grip) and pulled her to my face, she went berserk, moaning making out etc. She also reacted heavily to me stroking her neck, gently applying pressure. Kissing her neck, moaning near her ear etc.
After that it's time to use this to push and pull.
What I mentioned above can be used to pull. Find out what triggers the girl first!
For the pushing part: I just went a bit starfish mode. I still had this smirk on my face the whole time, displaying non-neediness. She got extremely triggered by this for some reason. She kept kissing me, stroking my hair, while I just sat/laid there doing nothing. No eye contact for a few minutes. After she has been a good girl, you look her in the eyes. You can tell she is looking for validation, give it to her, apply pull.
Whenever she starts to protest a bit again rinse and repeat, try to escalate a little bit each time. i.e. take of a piece of clothing each time, relocate to the bedroom etc.
But yeah it is basically a trail and error, but once you see the pattern you can use it to your advantage.
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Atheist_Utopia 6y ago
Works, done this before partially unconsciously.
lalaeticia 6y ago
Agreed, I did it unconsciously as well. I think it is internalized in every males biology to some extent. You just have to give it complete control.
CryptoViceroy 6y ago
Good work my friend. Getting that first notch on your belt is great feeling and I can empathize being a "late bloomer" myself. But, the journey has only just begun.
I can definitely agree with "The slow build up was way more enjoyable then the actual lay." for me the chase is more exhilarating than the actual lay.
AceMav21 6y ago
Wdym by “blue collar student job”? Like an apprentice tradesman?
howsthiscocainesmell 6y ago
Probably more like being a waiter
AceMav21 6y ago
When I think blue collar I think electrician, plumber, pipe fitter, truck driver, landscaper etc.
howsthiscocainesmell 6y ago
I totally get what you mean, but the word student made me go into less “expert” fields. I saw it as him saying he doesn’t have a “white collar student job” which would be something like working in a call centre.
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lalaeticia 6y ago
I actually started NoFap the day I started Tinder. I wanted to make myself hungry for sexual gratification. It helped me push past some comfort zones and take the dive in the unknown.
SuzieSixSpeed 6y ago
These are the kinds of posts we need in this sub, Thanks
Don_Himself 6y ago
you better still go around telling hoes ur a virgin still.
lalaeticia 6y ago
It's a funny story actually. I actually told her and turned it into a power.
She kept saying how she didn't want sex and in engaging I was entering her frame. So I dropped the virgin comment, she didn't believe me anyway, but I flipped the fucking script and told her I wanted to wait for a special moment. I amplified it by saying I wanted to wait at least 10 dates. She got so fucking horny afterwards and completely came back into my frame, dropping all her LMR.
poshmarkedbudu 6y ago
This happened to me at 21. Told her I was a virgin and she was all over me. At the time I thought it was crazy.
howsthiscocainesmell 6y ago
Why do you think it is she reacted that way?
folded1000time 6y ago
From an evo-psych perspective, her instincts could be thinking this is an opportunity to lock down a male who doesn't know his value yet.
poshmarkedbudu 6y ago
She wanted to be the one to pop my cherry. Simple as that.
studentsensei 6y ago
Not only that.
When I lost my virginity the ex who I lost it to said "Oh great that means no STDs" so my first time was done raw.
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I know this is TRP, but is that really what you guys want to do? Maybe I'm just beta, but I'd rather masturbate than go through that much work just to fuck. Why do you need the validation anyway? And where is the love?
Edit: this is being downvoted lmao
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lalaeticia 6y ago
It’s all about the Journey, not the Destination. Actually fucking her is a byproduct. Mastrubating is like going straight to the destination, where is the enjoyment in that?
I focused on having a good time. Displaying the need for sex comes across as needy and demonstrates a scarcity mindset.
cristianwonder 6y ago
No, it's all about the destination. Your tingles dont matter.
You're gonna end up as a 50 year old man with a 3 digit body count and no children. Enjoy the journey :)
FereallyRed 6y ago
I just turned 49, mid 200 n-count, no kids and a vasectomy.
Couldn't be happier.
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MrAnderzon 6y ago
The slow build up was better than the lay.
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bayareaengineer2019 6y ago
Sure... you’re on TRP to validate your choice. Something tells me you’re not telling the whole story.
Valenx_Ackerman 6y ago
I agree with your first 2 paragraphs
However I strongly disagree with the rest of it. You're living an illusion, you think your gf loves you, and I wish for you a happy life. But maybe, one day she'll start to think about banging other guys and "living her life", will give you bullshit excuses and ends up breaking with you, with you having absolutely no idea how this could happen, feeling desperate for answers, alone, lost, sad, empty... Maybe you'll hide in hanging out again, alcohol, hobbies... Yet still feeling like you understand absolutely nothing about the "rules" in life
And then you'll be looking for guidance, maybe a religion? i dont know.
topmatrixgun 6y ago
And what about those who weren't lucky to find a girl? What about those who were laughed at by girls? Shouldn't they get a chance to improve their lives? Tell me.
SergiuIlescu 6y ago
Won't last long, we'll see you soon bro, till there good luck
Flawless44 6y ago
3 years later in his Google search history
"how to tell if your child is not yours?"
All the luck to him though. Hope it works out..
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LeatherBoundWisdom 6y ago
Men with a mission don't have time for games. Says something lol.
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