You're an asshole, she yells at me. I nod. Giving into a woman's emotional outbursts and trying to reason or help them through it is pointless. You would have better luck quelling a tidal wave. But I was growing tired of her. This woman I thought I loved, before I learned that love must be learned and earned. But that is a different topic. Instead, I am here to teach you young Turks how to interact with women you are in relationships with. See, the woman who I thought I might call my wife had passion. In excess. When a woman has excess passion, she can be a dangerous and unpredictable partner. You MUST, and I repeat with emphasis, MUST, direct that passion, lest it be used against you. I did not stop her from overflowing like water boiling in a pot. Do you let the water keep rising, until you have a mess on the floor? No, you move the pot. You strain the water. That is what you must do. And you do it, by direction.

It seems ridiculous to men, and misogynistic to women, that they need direction in their lives. But a woman can only imitate what she sees men do, she has no idea how to create a powerful life script by her lonesome. That is where you, the alpha male, must step in, and guide. And you do this by directing your actor. Shakespeare says "all the world's a stage." So you must OWN the stage. This is frame, and if you don't know what that is then your fingertips, eyes, mouth, nose, feet, butt and brain are still stained blue. I urge you to check out the numerous writings on frame, the one by Woujo would be a good guide on the matter.

By using frame control, you help to direct the directionless woman. It should not seem to difficult, but for some reason even hardened Red-Pill veterans who have seen every woman under the sun and moon are confused when their relationship falters. She didn't do anything! You have your mission, what is her's?

It does not need to be a mission of great poignancy. Something as simple as 'stay-at-home mom' had been the de-facto mission for many woman for years. But if you don't direct her life, she will direct her own

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RavenJolice 6y ago

oOooOOh nOO ShE hAS HEr oWn wIlL!!!11!!111!

olinvomibo123 6y ago

Esther Villar was way ahead of time, I guess.

Odd_String 6y ago

Bro, this is a cringe-tier level post if I've ever seen one and the hive mind of TRP virgins is only making it that much worse. What part of Briffault's Law don't you understand? Dominance during sex? Yes. Direct her life? Fucking no. That's some codependent, incel level standard of thinking. All you can do is set a frame/boundaries and enjoy your life with people who are aligned with it/them. Investing and expecting results in another person's behavior is niceguy/incel/beta/bluepill shit.

centaursg 6y ago

Its not cringe or incel level. When you are in a relationship, you own everything that happens in the relationship. Whether its you who fucks it up or your partner, you own it and dont go on blaming your partner.

As a part of owning up, what comes is the responsibility. That you take care and nuture your relationships. BUT if it fails, it fails. Do you know what they say in TRP ? Outcome Independence , motherfucker!

Expecting results when you have put in the work is not bluepill or beta. Its common sense. BUT (again) you need to ensure you are not putting efforts in the wrong way and if you are, correct the trajectory and move in the right direction. If you cant or no other way, call it quits.

So having an awareness of where things are going with you as an individual and your partner is very essential.

I`m in late adulthood so all you young guys may not get this..

Odd_String 6y ago

That was a long walk for a short drink of water.

PoetAlcoholic 6y ago

Not really. Yeah, if you're just having sex with some girl you met online, who gives a shit what they do it how they act. There is a reason this post is tagged Married Red Pill and not Girl I Just Fucked Red Pill. And I agree with the frame and life thing, but it's impossible for a human to be completely alligned in frame. Because no man is the perfect alpha, you won't be able to control 100% of the relationship. So, you use your frame and your influence over her to direct her towards behaviors and ideas that you like.

Odd_String 6y ago

More like Divorced Red Pill because you take internet advice with bad punctuation.

PoetAlcoholic 6y ago

Oh, nevermind you're just a faggot with too much time on your hands. I thought you were someone with a brain.

Odd_String 6y ago

Man, I can just tell you're going to get an ass beating of your life one day.

DigitalFam 6y ago

Can't you write her a story that doesn't make you tired?

InformalCriticism 6y ago

If I had to take a wild guess, I'd say there's a snowball's chance on a SpaceX launch pad.

adam-l Senior Endorsed 6y ago

If you find yourself micromanaging her you are doing it wrong. It's more about giving her directions for her to walk. E.g. pushing her towards adopting gardening might win you a year of two of peace.

DigitalFam 6y ago

What about giving her a baby to take care of?

adam-l Senior Endorsed 6y ago

As long as you don't give a shit about the little fucker, by all means do. If it is your baby, well, you don't let babies take care of babies.

This is a standard Beta strategy, thinking they can lock a woman in by giving her a baby. What it does is locking yourself in, since she holds your offspring as a hostage and becomes a demanding shrew,.fucking up you and the baby in the process.

FthGlbyz 6y ago

Also probably she will dump you and take your money or just leave the kid on you.

SkullBoyFive 6y ago

I'm young af to understand this post fully. Can you give examples of 'holding frame'?

TotalPigeon 6y ago

What is your frame of mind? There are different strengths of these frame - some are soft, bending to the way another person directs it, and others are strong and unshakeable. If you go up to chat to a girl, your frame is that you are a) the shit and b) that you want to do something with her. If she gives you shit and you lose all of your confidence and the engagement falls apart? You lost your frame. In a sense, you stopped being the person you were trying to be and became something else, something lost and broken. If she gives you shit and you brush it off? You held your frame. That "attack" didn't faze you.

This extends to all stressful situations (interviews, losing control of a car, being attacked by a dog). Essentially it comes down to maintaining your self confidence in the face of adversity. When you hold frame, women become interested in your mental fortitude. Why is he so confident? Is he really the shit? In a subconscious and primal sense, they are wondering if you have a reason to be so confident and whether they want to try to get you invested in them.

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AttilaTheNun400 6y ago

Example: you are on a date and she asks you a pretty aggressive question fx: "I don't usually go for short guys" or " you are a bit nerdy for my taste" just spin it into a joke or tell her she's weird and just don't take her seriously. Losing frame would be fx: getting angry or insecure "What do mean, I am not that short" holding frame is letting her know that you are secure in yourself

AttilaTheNun400 6y ago

Holding frame essentially boils down to: don't let her get under your skin or just affect you negatively and just keep your cool

SkullBoyFive 6y ago

Can you provide some real life situations where you kept your frame?

BloodSurgery 6y ago

Pretty much not answering emotionally. Example:

"You look like a virgin"

Instead of acting all "actually, I've fucked two girls, so you are wrong", or being mad, you answer back jokingly.

"Thanks, I wanna be just like Jesus and Buddha", or something like that.

Or if you are being "annoyed" by your male friends. "You look like a fag with that haircut bro lmao"

Breaking frame would be feeling angry and yelling at them, keeping your frame would be "u right bro, next time imma shave fully, like the brazzers guy".

Do you know what frame is thought?

SkullBoyFive 6y ago

Yes I now understand frame

30dirtyfingers 6y ago

Interesting. This is exactly what I need right now

sthlmtrdr 6y ago

True. This ties into the saying that the man leads and the woman follows. In a good and healthy relationship the woman are submissive and submit to her man. This is the social dynamic that will make both happy and create a happy relationship. The man takes initiative, directs and guides. It's all about being a strong, just and fair leader and keep a alpha mindset ("frame").

The best relationships I have had is with girls who are easy going, laid back, fun, got charm and just submits and follows. Embraces her femininity and knows her true place in the relationship and let the man lead.

AceMav21 6y ago

Ever that Theranos girl had some rich Silicon Valley Indian dude giving her direction while she tried to imitate Steve Jobs.

_do_not_read_this_ 6y ago

I finally took the time to watch a video of her speaking earlier this year, holy fuck is that creepy! How could *anyone* have followed anything she had to say, especially when it was so obviously a con job.

Imperator_Red 6y ago

Ideology is a powerful drug.

ThatKidinAfrica 6y ago

Pakistani but I get that no one cares here.

Bigbagofbones 6y ago

Same difference. Desis are desis.

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GraniteGray 6y ago

Very true statement about female nature and well written. Directing her passion isn’t a way I’ve heard it described before. They are followers and hunger for leadership, preferably from a man. Ask a girl how she likes her female boss.

I clearly remember the day I realized my wife was a follower. I then eventually realized she needed a leader to be happy. Women will hate you if you make them lead.

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UnanimousInMyOpinion 6y ago

In my blue pill days I thought an educated womyn could lead. So I wasted years trying to be “a team.” What a fucking mistake. Then, when I found TRP and realized that even ‘smart’ women with advanced degrees need to be dominated and led, I strengthened my frame, took over and she had a totally free ride. She had an amazing life doing nothing other than what she wanted, when she wanted.

The death of the LTR came when I learned, much to my anger, sadness, disbelief, then finally acceptance that she couldn’t appreciate it! The RP truth hit hard that burden of performance is EXPECTED of a man. Not only could she not love a man in the way he would want to be loved, but she was BORING and didn’t give her best to the one who provided for her. Hard RP truths cost me time and money but sunk costs aside- fuck you bitch, NEXT

MeansToABenz 6y ago

So true. As the years have progressed (I am early 20’s) I have come to realize how much you have to make all the decisions when with women. This directly correlates with u/Greaterbird’s recent post: Men are the video games of women. In a video game you enjoy campaign mode but when that part of the game is over no one wants to just aimlessly roam with no intended purpose, so they just move on.

That is why I make sure to always have a next checkpoint set up for dates and plates! Stay prepared lads.

bigballer29 6y ago

Can you elaborate what you mean here by “checkpoint?”

MeansToABenz 6y ago

Make sure to always have a plan. Always know what you two (or more) will do next. If you are not smart enough to have a next set of activities then this is an easy tell for a woman whether she is dealing with a real alpha or a pretender.

brandclark 6y ago

Probably where your next destination or spot to go to is gonna be.

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deathhandmachiavelli 6y ago

True.

This is one of the reasons why so many marriages and LTRs fail.

Most men simply don't have the will and strength to do this.

You see men with "honey do" lists and who say "happy wife, happy life."

They are the men who end up getting cheated on and divorced.

Which, actually, is the way is SHOULD be.

HornsOfApathy 6y ago

The feminine grows through praise. The masculine grows through challenge.

nofears 6y ago

This is very true, but one key point is that you must make your leading and direction undetectable to her due to the feminist brainwashing women are subjected to.

I dated a staunch feminist once that would melt into my frame like a little kitten, always delighted for me to lead her... But if I spoke directly and explained why she should listen to my wisdom, she would revolt and get visibly angry. That type of discourse activated her pseudo intellectualism and never ended well.

Bigbagofbones 6y ago

Yeah, that's not too difficult to see. There is a massive difference between showing and telling.

bmw1999m3 6y ago

Yeah, that's something I've noticed by figuring it out the hard way. A guy must not discuss the psychology behind the way he acts toward her. She won't empathize, trust me.

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bayareaengineer2019 6y ago

I concur. The modern feminist movement is telling women they don’t need a man and to create their own path. This goes against their natural instincts, however. Women can’t make up their minds with big life decisions such as where to live, your purpose, or even small things like what to wear or where to eat. Heard this from lots of women around me and some plates. They want a man to lead.

vodoun 6y ago

Women can’t make up their minds with big life decisions such as where to live, your purpose, or ~~even small things like what to wear or where to eat~~

not entirely accurate.

we just don't naturally want to. there is a natural symbiosis between the feminine and masculine that is being portrayed as "bad" or nonexistent by some groups which is a big problem and leads to a lot of the attitudes you see in both men and women.

i don't need to decide what area we live in, i would be happy to live anywhere my husband is because that's the person i want to be/follow around; i do want to have a say in what specific house we live in because the appearance of it and usefulness of the rooms inside concern primarily me. give me a list of places that work with what you need and ill choose from them

you can't completely take away choice from a woman or ill find someone who isn't so insecure. you have to respect what skills i bring to the table as well

just tell me what the parameters are and let me work within them. having no parameters is boring and unproductive; having too many is stifling and annoying, i would quickly replace you in both of these situations

PhattyBacon 6y ago

Great point and emphasises the team nature that some people are deriding in the comments. Man and woman are a team, full stop. In every team there is a leader and this should be the man. That doesn't mean the man is a tyrant who makes every decision for his team, but rather he lays foundation and provides a boundaried area for people to flourish in.

There's a wealth of truth in TRP but often I think it colors outside the lines because it's so excited to be antithesis to mainstream conditioning. I want a partner that I can lead and prosper with, I don't want this angry parasitic caricature of a woman that's often presented around here.

UnanimousInMyOpinion 6y ago

Then stay away from angry, parasitic women- there are a bunch of them.

If you are going to engage in high-risk behavior, then do it with an RP lens and not with BP Disney expectations. And even then you better hope you got it right and have some luck.

For those men looking for LTR and especially those who insist on getting married (which you shouldn’t) I can’t emphasize enough the importance of mate selection (many posts on this), making her earn LTR status (no pedestalizing and giving bitches the benefit of the doubt), shopping/spinning plates with abundance mentality long enough for some maturity to set in, then enforcing your frame and boundaries (great post on this stickied above). Only then do you even have a chance.

PhattyBacon 6y ago

Agreed, and I'm going to set a high bar for the mother of my children because that's what I care about. I could care less about sterile gay sex that is so commonly heralded as a virtue.

RevolutionaryPea7 6y ago

This is absolutely right. If you don't write it for her, she will write it herself. In other words, she will create drama. That's all they know. It's up to you to write her a story that isn't dramatic.

This is usually the reason plates break even if she isn't sleeping around. You're not giving her a life so before long she will create problems and at that point you can either take over and upgrade her to LTR, or just let it break.

Women and beta males alike require strong, alpha men as leaders. But while a lone beta will fade into nonexistence, a lone female will go crazy and either get cats or take out her frustrations on any betas she can lure into orbit.

redpill77 6y ago

she will create drama. That's all they know.

Women are designed to be sensitive, not strong. They are thus indelibly insecure. Their drama is real until they find someone strong and smart enough to tell them it isn't.

If a new man comes along, there is a possibility he is more alpha than her man. If she didn't force these two men to sort out their hierarchy, she can't be sure that she's safe.

Project_Zero_Betas 6y ago

Women and betas have so much in common it's scary.

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nobody_thinks 6y ago

yes but you have to do all of this indirectly.

You can't walk into her life and literally say "I'm the alpha now make me a sandwich and do some squats you lazy instaTHOT."

Just some clarification for the autists out there.

Stron2g 6y ago

This is a spiritual truth. It is inherently female nature to be deeply insecure and emotionally volatile. They are like a constant ocean storm and men must be the bulwark against the waves that keeps the world in balance.

In more modern terms, you need to dominate that ass and keep her in check. The problem is, that is getting more and more difficult as men become less masculine and more feminine thanks to social conditioning, lack of positive male role models, poor diet, lack of exercise, and xenoestrogens in the environment. Its real out here boys.