I can't help but cringe when someone says "swallow the pill". It's something i would expect hearing from some loser lunatic who's about to join a cult.

I think in order to popularize this we need a simple catchy term.

I propose “paternity rape” as the phrase we should use. It accurately describes the emotional range a man would feel if he found himself in such circumstances.

When I read about some of the situations on here where cheating/cucking is occurring, I wonder how the men in these relationships were ever comfortable with the situation. If you stay with or marry a woman who gets drunk, clubs, goes on trips alone, works around a bunch of men, etc. you are asking for it. The only reason I ever had kids personally was because the mom agreed to stay at home and raise them...and I STILL DNA tested them. Lol. My point is that if you're going to try the whole family thing, set it up properly so that the chances are low that cheating is going to occur. You can't control women themselves but you can control what you agree to. Don't give any more ground than necessary for the safety and happiness of the little ones. They deserve it.

I don't have kids yet (not dure if I do or not) but how do these test work? Would I need to consent from the 'mother's or can it be done a secret?

That is a pretty good idea to make the push under the radar but I'm wary of putting my genetic information out there more than it already is.

If he continues to raise the bastard he is a bitch cuck nothing more. The dog should be dumped as well as her litter bastard. Protect the assets from any potential divorce proceeding by placing them in an offshore trust. Courts do not have international jurisdiction, especially over offshore trusts.

There have been cases where doctors will lie about the results of the tests to "keep the family together"

I would prefer to see results in public on Maury....

""I raised him, he's my son, blah blah... " "

exact definition of cuck

One random night out I picked up this girl who was at the bar alone and was talking about her bf who’s in his residency to be a neurosurgeon. I kept with her, Long story short we had sex in my car and she asked me to finish inside her. I hit her up a few weeks later for seconds and she said she’s working on her relationship but will “keep you in mind next time we hit a rough patch” I can see what happened to your friend happen to this guy at some point. She’s clearly in it for the $$$.

Being the “other guy” in this scenario, how would I ever feel secure in a relationship? Lol

I have two kids (7 and 10). I think if I found one of them to not be mine it would be utterly devastating but not as devastating as being a cuck for some random dude. Guess I'm ordering these tests.

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A girl I hooked up with in HS took advantage of my young stupidity and faked being on the pill. She found a guy married him and had my kid, her husband has no clue. I found out it was mine years later. Kid is just about grown up now so I just let sleeping dogs lie. It's fucked up for everyone.

Personally, I wouldn't raise a child if it wasn't mine. I wouldn't spend a penny or waste any (further) resources on it.

Schools started doing blood type analysis because they were cheap and fun, but they stopped doing them because it lead to husbands finding out their kids were not theirs when the blood type combinations were impossible.

Feel for your friend man. Obviously he needs to divorce that cunt but how old is the kid?

If he’s over like 10 I can only imagine how hard it would be to raise a kid for a decade then find out it’s not his.

I’m genuinely curious what others on this sub would do in that situation.

Although I want a paternity test, I would never take a 23 test. It's like facebook, except you get to pay to give your genetic information and make it available to large corporations.

A man has been convicted of murder as a result of his son having taken that test and being genetically close enough set detectiveson his trail. And that's assuming he did murder and they didn't use it as a setup.

They've also had workers admit to tampering with results, adding african ancestry to mess with people. I would not trust these kind of organizations as far as I could throw them.

An interesting story just came up in my country. The federal tribunal just ruled against the biological father of a child conceived through an affair. He wanted partial custody of the child, but the mother refused. The married husband has assumed responsibility and the courts have (bizarrely, given that heritage is a big thing here) determined that the bio father isn’t necessary.

It makes me wonder how many women have gotten away with this...

I wonder what would happen if all the men who got cheated into raising not their children did paternity tests and then started a giant shitstorm like #metoo? Im afraid I already know the anwser. Its fucked up.

It wouldn’t matter what the test says. Those are my kids.

"Fortunately, all my kids are 99.99 percent mine, for the rest of you, if I was a gambling man, 10-15%, probably not necessarily the case." The information I've read is that it's closer to 30%.

In France I believe it’s illegal for fathers to seek paternity tests for their children. Sigh

Even your Mrs thundercock resisted it, under the guise of humor.

There are no unicorns. It’s hard wired into their DNA to cuckold their regular partner with a fling.

You (she) just happened to get lucky.

Published to acclaim and controversy a decade ago, Sperm Wars is a revolutionary thesis about sex that turned centuries-old biological assumptions on their head. Evolution has programmed men to conquer and monopolize women while women, without ever knowing they are doing it, seek the best genetic input on offer from potential sexual partners. In this book, best-selling author Robin Baker reveals these new facts of life: ten percent of children are not fathered by their “fathers;” less than one percent of a man’s sperm is capable of fertilizing anything (the rest is there to fight off all other men’s sperm); “smart” vaginal mucus encourages some sperm but blocks others; and a woman is far more likely to conceive through a casual fling than through sex with her regular partner. It’s no wonder that Sperm Wars is a classic of popular science writing that will surprise, entertain, and even shock.

This isn’t theory, this isn’t red pill men guessing about the world. This is fact. This is how the world works. Studied and studied again, numerous times by biologists and medical doctors.

How valid are these tests if you think it was your brother?

I was an early adopter of DNA testing and did it with what I was told was my "daughter" from my then ex wife back in 2004 (we still fucked for a couple years after the divorce). The kid wasn't mine!

Now divorced from my second wife, and though my daughters really look like me, I'm getting the hankering to do some more home DNA kit tests...but very reluctant because of the love thing.

What do you think?

As someone with a kid, I never thought about doing a DNA test until I found TRP. However, with the knowledge of AWALT, anything is possible. I plan on sending one in very soon.

Anyone have suggestions on the best kind of test to get? Does it matter if it’s an at home/mail in test or a strictly in-lab test?

Tested my daughter at about 6 months old. This was a while ago, but it was the best $350 I ever spent in my life. No regrets.

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Why would your wife even joke about that? Sounds like she's implying she fucked other guys. The "stupid drunk" part is thinking maybe the guys didn't use a condom.

It is not like married women get drunk, fuck other guys and completely forget about it.

This post/thread cannot be side bar. For sure, this is not about TRP. It is about an ethical exercise of the person you are, or want to be.

If you want to DNA-test your offspring, then do it before they emotionally attach to you as a father, before the age of 2. If you reject infants before they really know you, you don't afflict any harm to them.

If you're RP, then good for you. If you're not RP, then good for you. But if you're an unethical anus that throws emotionally vulnerable children under the bus because you made a poor choice of AWALT-SO or you failed to keep your AWALT-SO in check, then you should be rejected from society and forced to go live with the apes in the forests surrounding the Congo river.

I'm pretty sure my son is not mine. Fortunately I'm already parted ways with his mom, so a test is useless at this point. He's already mine, what can I do? I probably will test him just to be sure, but I will love him anyway.

So he voluntarily cucked himself.

"23 and me" is not a reliable company. They've been publicly caught changing genetic tests results. They add deliberately "1% black" to every white person's test, just to try and "fuck with conservatives".

Image someone doing that to you when going to a gall bladder exam or any medical exam.

So he ended up raising him even though it was never his

Good post! There's nothing more important than paternity tests. You may think you are alpha AF, but if you raise another man's offspring you are a bigger loser than the incel living with his mom as a 40 year old.

Your friend is pathetic. I feel sorry for him and want to give him a beating at the same time.

FWIW, read the fine print on these. Some, like 23andMe, IIRC, will legally claim ownership over your DNA.

I was curious how much of my heritage was Celtic vs Mediterranean but pulled plug when I learned the ownership thing.

I don't fully grasp the nuance or gravity of the ownership issue but something about it unnerved me.

I read somewhere that even in most traditional societies around the world cucking is averaging %5 give or take.