It's been said a billion times before but bears repeating: Don't try to unplug other people.
Why?
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Most people aren't ready to unplug.
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Unplugging typically produces extreme, violent and unpredictable behavior within individuals. (Violent meaning extreme, not actually violent. (But sometimes that too.))
- You more than likely do not possess the professional skills necessary to guide another human being through, what is essentially, a complete destruction and overhaul of their subjective identity. Unplugging is ego death.
When you've lived your entire life based around a core set of beliefs, any evidence to the contrary; any evidence that undermines those beliefs will usually be ignored or outright denied as false. Those of you who have truly unplugged know how it felt to finally be smacked in the face by reality.
Maybe it wasn't as violent and jarring for some of you as it was for others. Maybe for some of you, like it was for me, it was a pretty easy transition because you were more willing to investigate a different viewpoint on a topic (in this case intergender relationship dynamics) and also more willing to subscribe to a new, beneficial belief system.
I read the advice tons of times and I still tried to do it. And guess what? Nothing happened. It didn't work. I didn't unplug anybody. Specifically for the reasons I listed above.
I'm lucky that I'm not in some high level position of a company where my reputation would be at stake for trying this. I'm also lucky that the guy I've tried to help is one of my best friends and, frankly, is too loyal and dumb to ever really grasp the fact that he could do my reputation slight damage by telling people.
I've been dropping what knowledge I've gained and fully grasped in bits and pieces to him over the past year or so, and sure. He understands it logically. I think. (He can be really thick-headed sometimes.) But even though he can regurgitate to me the things I've been saying to him this whole time, I just have to look at his actions. Sure enough, he hasn't soaked it in. He still displays traits and acts in ways that signal to women that he's better suited for long-term provider material.
He gets laid every now and then sure. But even a blind pig finds a truffle occasionally.
I've learned to not give him advice on women anymore because all I'm doing is wasting my time and energy giving advice to somebody who clearly, whether he realizes it or not, doesn't want it. Instead, I just tell him what he wants to hear. "Yea dude. Totally. Take her out for dinner. She'll def bang you for that."
The words have sunk in deep enough to where he knows logically it's not the right thing to do to get himself laid, but that matrix programming is entrenched so deep that, at least for my friend, it will take a woman completely crushing his heart to finally get him to tell me that he's ready to listen. And sometimes, that's what it takes.
You can lead a horse to water, but you can't get them to drink.

always_sad12 7y ago
I thought this whole thing was supposed to be like fight club. I have friends who sorely need TRP but I wouldn’t mention it in a million years. I just drop a few game tips like don’t seek approval, tease em a little, don’t argue with your gf, shit like that. But to actually try to unplug someone? Never. What the heck? Next we will start telling our girlfriends not to be “hypergamous” or something.
LowSpecTea 7y ago
The last bolded line really hit home because a version of that is effectively what happened to me...
But rather than a woman directly crushing the heart it became more the amount of indecision I had in my life regarding women at large. I had plenty of women interested but I didn't do anything about it and all the missed opportunities were eating me alive because of my own unconfident(but attractive) ass....
I was a voracious reader and pick up artistry books were the closest formal reading out there on the subject from the library anyway and all 2 of those books sucked....
But lone behold my oldest friend who was going through something similar ish- found TRP...
Sharing it with me was probably one of the greatest gifts I have received because FINALLY: I had a framework to understand and maneuver the female mind with that was comprehensive and made sense. I dont think it only has to be woman crushing you- you can crush yourself as well and need scaffolding to rebuild from there.
byronichero99 7y ago
Man I would like to red pill my best friend, but damn he has swallowed the blue pill so hard, you would have to cut his stomach open to get it out. He is in the clutches of this moody, sassy, sour, high headed rich bimbo. Lol he is so bad in it that he isn't even allowed to talk to a mildly attractive girl. The worst part is that he is a good looking chap who has the potential to hold 4 plates at a time.
hearse223 7y ago
Is the opposite of RPing someone to suggest that maybe they are having bad luck with women because they are homosexual?
In my own defense, I encouraged my friend to try talking to dudes and now hes out of the closet and shit, very happy with himself.
Maybe if I knew about this place I could have steered him in a different direction...
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Demiurge_Decline 7y ago
Alot of times you need to burn your hand before you respect that a flickering fire as beautiful and alluring as it is - is dangerous. Red fire, Blue fire, White fire all different degrees of pain. If you are familiar with red pill you have felt the sting of fire before and you want to make sure it never happens again or at least minimize the chances. You can't tell a person how it feels to be burned, you can only provide ointment after.
gaydabsquad 7y ago
Funny enough, most men are happy with being average and staying plugged in. I'd argue the pain of getting rejected and eventually finding one woman that will love them for time is much more enjoyable and therapeutic to most men than actually trying to build wealth, success and applying knowledge to be the best at their area of expertise.
zyqkvx 7y ago
Guilty. Every time I as much advise someone the smallest detail my own self improvement routines go awry. Also, there are endless bro's and ho's to save. I once convinced myself to work hard til my life is so perfected people are earnestly asking. Then decide how to handle it. That worked for about 5 months and I got huge gains, ate great, and my social skills were shooting up. I got to get back in to that flavor of monk mode (no helpy others). Not only does staunchly keeping my mouth shut keep me from falling off my routine, it puts me in turbo mode for as long as I can keep it shut.
Demiurge_Decline 7y ago
There is a magic here that is amiss. its like your power is internal and the minute you give this piece of power over to someone else externally, it shatters your inner power almost like the energy you give away depletes that momentum you build up internally. You give advice on working out, and then you become lazy. You give financial advice, and you lose a client or income. You show your guy friend how to spin plates, and 3 of your rare China plates spin off to the Netherlands. I noticed this in my own life and the pattern is definetly there...
-Fidelio- 7y ago
Most people just try to redpill impatiently.
Did Morpheus just knock on Neo's door and offer him bluepill or redpill? Why would Neo take either pill with so little build up?
Honestly, anyone that takes the redpill just like that is unstable. And someone who takes it that easily leaves it just as easily next day he wakes up.
However if a guy is going through the wringer and he's a good friend, I think one should nudge them a little to wake-up. Most mistakes that people make are like allergic reactions; their defenses go up against exactly the wrong thing. My wife is unhappy? I must do more for her. I must ask her what she wants. I must give her what she says she wants. A friend is giving me advice that seems counterproductive? He must be wrong.
Just small "isn't it weird how women always tend to be sweeter after a fight where you didn't back down?" kinda comments to open up dialogue about counter-intuitive things can help.
And you can just leave a breadcrumb trail. Neo spent nights trying to find trinity / morpheus. If someone isn't putting in their own effort; it isn't worth it most of the time.
Aaron_Aero 7y ago
Finding TRP is a bit bittersweet. On one hand I was relieved to finally have answers in regards to why shit is the way it is. On the other the shock/regret of past beta mistakes when looking back on my life felt embarrassing and the long road of self improvement and reprogramming ahead felt daunting. Still kind of does. 20+ years of walking in the dark to find the harsh yet revealing light.
jm51 7y ago
Even in my 20s I could sense that there was something like TRP but was pretty clueless as to what the details were.
When I did find this sub, I was 'Ah I knew it!' Lots of previous inconsistencies in female behaviour started to make sense.
Similar to playing poker every week for years with the same gang. Some nearly always win, some always lose and the rest win some nights and lose other nights. Then you discover that there are books on how to win at poker.
JinxsLover 7y ago
Hurts a bit too read this but I needed it. I Made massive mistakes trying to date and often was "too nice" or didn't make my intentions clear until it was too late. I had no idea how to transition from just talking to the b next step thank you for your write up
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B-L-G-Y 7y ago
I have successfully red pilled exactly one person out of a few attempts. I was done trying with friends for a few years before I sent this guy to Rollo and then, when he spoke about him often and confidently, said he might like a certain subreddit. The rest is history.
I attribute this success to the fact that his brand new ex had just done him quite dirty. He was jaded and skeptical of the status quo to begin with. Essentially it seemed like the perfect storm. Even then I didn't expect it to work. It's usually never worth it.
Every now and again I'll drop some RP knowledge of game and relationship dynamics and so forth to young guys at work, but I never go full retard and I never reveal my sources. This place is still pretty taboo. Especially to idealistic youth.
My advice is to never try to unplug someone. Even if you're sure it'll work.
saganist91 7y ago
Morpheus did not follow Neo around. They must seek advice themselves. In most cases they are not ready to swallow their pride and are not receptive for any advice, even if they deserve to hear it.
voxiqs 7y ago
I rp two people. I’m not sure how I feel about unplugging them but one was getting run over my his gf and the other is an important person in my life
I would def not do it again, it’s exhausting worrying about how they will take it and what they will do next. One got too extreme, although his life is improved by 10x over, I just miss the old him. This sub will reprogram you.
BlackCraneStoic 7y ago
Alot of people want to remain in dreamworld. That's their business. In my past attempts "friends" either completely shrugged it off opting for RSD scam artists and anime instead or have full blown come to resent me for dispelling their delusions. The truth will manifest to those who seek it. Avoid wasting your time on those who couldn't care less about it.
JcHgvr 7y ago
Best you can do is nudge people in the right direction and even that only if they are already leaning that way.
untitled56 7y ago
> He still displays traits and acts in ways that signal to women that he's better suited for long-term provider material.
I'm guessing you're trying to convince him to be an "alpha?" Not everyone is excited by meaningless sex.
Noblefiz 7y ago
Who said sex has to be meaningless? but sounds like you’re pretty jaded and projecting.
untitled56 7y ago
Defensiveness isn't very alpha.
strikethrough123 7y ago
I've unplugged a handful of people. You don't unplug people by "hey dude look at this TRP shit". You sprinkle TRP truths here and there based on their experiences. Eventually they'll start coming to you for advice. You have to be extremely careful with your words and how much you share at any given time.
If you grew up clueless about PowerTalk, this is a great tool of practice. It's easy to identify other RP men as you develop your PowerTalk, and unplugging another individual becomes a team effort, given that you both like the dude and know that he's been through enough to be susceptible to the truth.
The benefits of unplugging someone are gigantic. You will gain a large amount of respect from the person you unplug, and they will go on to spread the word about how much you know and how much you've helped them. This will elevate you in the eyes of your peers. Eventually, people will flock to you as a resource of knowledge.
Tread carefully, one wrong word or one wrong person within earshot can destroy your reputation.
VasiliyZaitzev 7y ago
You cannot "save" your bluepill buddies.
And this is 10x true for betafags will throw you under the bus the first chance they get.
Betafag (to Thot): ”I’m not a BAD guy like Noblefiz! Now put a stamp on my ‘nice guy’ card and give me a whiff of pusseeeeey!!!”
You can only live the life and hope they piece it together from watching you.
Youngyoda89 7y ago
I can’t tell you how many times I’ve heard betas try to use that line with me and it ALWAYS fails them mercilessly. I’m annoyed that they try it in the first place, though not surprised, but humored at the result.
Aggressive_Beta 7y ago
"Throw you under the bus" is a major understatement too. Aggressive betas can be extremely unpredictable and dangerous
ThisIsAgent007 7y ago
Exactly, always lead by example and only give advice if they ask for it, only by small pieces at a time not the whole thing at once.
BlackCraneStoic 7y ago
Come to realize they're two types of BP men. There are men who are socially programmed and suppressed but know there's something wrong but struggle to identify it and then there are full blown Betas who wouldn't understand TRP truth if you hit them over the head with it. The former will find their way granted they put in the effort. The second are lost causes and a waste of energy/time.
Youngyoda89 7y ago
Stoic, are you still working for that beta provider at the automotive dealership? Did you finally save the money to break free from that prick!?
[deleted] 7y ago
Most of the men here unplugged themselves. They know something is wrong and they've basically come to believe most of the things that TRP teaches. TRP just gives them a theoretical framework and jargon that structures the ideas bouncing around in their heads, and might push them the last 25% of the way if they're not fully unplugged yet.
NormalAndy 7y ago
Puts some well needed flesh on the bones as to why you should rely on yourself for happiness and not need a girl to make you 'complete.' Also plenty of practical tips with links back to theory. Also reasons why you can so easily fall into blue pill habits.
Trp does a great job
[deleted] 7y ago
You can drop nuggets if you package it correctly.
"Don't put the pussy on a pedestal," is a well known phrase. You can explain that this means that women are attracted to men who have their shit together and who other women value, so it's better to focus on improving yourself and not idolizing one woman. I wouldn't say this to someone at work, but you can safely explain this to non-work friends.
JerryLawlerPigFace 7y ago
Dear god this resonated and I needed to hear this. I have the tendency, upon soaking in, internalizing and becoming passionate about certain material, to spread it around and tell other people about it. It’s an ego trip for me I’m sure, to be the one teaching and guiding other people in the “right” direction.
I’ve been doing this with my best friend over the last few months. He’s as beta as they come, known by every social circle as a “nice guy” (and also a pussy, but that’s more so behind his back). He’s going through a terrible breakup right now, his girlfriend cheated on him (shocking).
He is hearing what I’m saying, logically, but none of it’s sinking in, exactly as you described in your post. Each day is a new update from him about how he talked to his ex about this or that, while I’m wondering why there is even any updates at all. None of what I’m saying is sinking in, no matter how much he tries to regurgitate it.
Most of all, there’s a certain part of me that hates even talking about RP concepts, because I’m no fucking guru and probably don’t even know a faction of what I could know.
First rule of the red pill, never talk about the red pill.
LeonBarosanul 7y ago
It's an interesting scenario for me, but I tried to rp my alpha buddy; he really is a ZFG alpha, but blue pill. He is a proponent of "be yourself", which, of course, works great for him. I tried to explain some behaviours he himself is using, using some real world context for said behaviours. He became very defensive and his facial expression changed for the worst, making me uncomfortable (and i am not uncomfortable around this fellow - we know each other for around 20 years now).
NikolaGeorgiev 7y ago
“The Matrix is a system, Neo. That system is our enemy. But when you're inside, you look around, what do you see? Businessmen, teachers, lawyers, carpenters. The very minds of the people we are trying to save. But until we do, these people are still a part of that system and that makes them our enemy.
You have to understand, most of these people are not ready to be unplugged.
And many of them are so inured, so hopelessly dependent on the system, that they will fight to protect it.”
UseryMcNameface 7y ago
Having this exact story with one of my best friends. He's been "dating" a girl from over a year now who's a complete and utter basic, vapid POS. She's driven him to the point of going into intensive psychiatric treatment, cheated on him (and admitted it) and keeps benching him while she "finds herself" - looking for another branch to swing to - yet he keeps going back for more, taking her out to expensive restaurants, lunch dates on wine farms, etc. It's nauseating. This leech is sucking him dry and there isn't a thing I can say to him that will get him to walk away. It's gotten to the point now where he openly acknowledges what she does to him, and even then he just dismisses it all with "yeah, there's what my head wants and what my heart wants." FFS, it's infuriating how much we have all been brainwashed by romcoms and such that making an impossible relationship work with a toxic person is somehow "extra points". Rant over.
Churningaway 7y ago
The cuckery knows no bounds
[deleted] 7y ago
I've not been great with women my whole life, but I can say with confidence that I would never have taken this shit, if nothing else because I would have been unable to contain my anger. How any man could tolerate this is a complete mystery to me.
UseryMcNameface 7y ago
My thoughts exactly. She's actually managed to gaslight him into believing it's all his fault and that he should feel guilty for making her feel guilty over cheating on him. What's even more amazing is that he's a highly intelligent person with a background in psychology, but he can't seem to grasp how much he's been bamboozled due to his senses being dulled by poontang. It's putting a lot of strain on our friendship. The blue pill fights for it's own survival.
Pillautomas 7y ago
We're all *Not Gonna Make It
Cucks Gonna Cuck
Can't force a horse to drink water
IPunishIron 7y ago
And what do we do when so many plugged in folks find their way to the TRP and end up changing the dynamics? I have seen this sub slowly decline in the last 2 years. There is a lot of good info here still but its becoming too beta to be honest, no disrespect to anyone but thats just how it is, every movement gets infiltrated, and TRP is no exception.
Chadthundercock531 7y ago
Redpill, pick-up and even self-improvement is not really popular in my country. I silently improve myself so that I can have an advantage over everybody here.
Seriously, why do you want to tell anyone about redpill or self improvement??? that only cause more competition in life.
hammerhearth 7y ago
Like the name implies, self improvement is for yourself. It's not called "their improvement" for a reason
Sanctusary 7y ago
You can, in theory, red pill someone, given that you have enough charisma to start with, the moment is right, and you are able to absorb the potential fall out of him taking it the wrong way.
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Yea, it’s tough to see friends going through the marriage wringer and not being able to arm them with the knowledge here.
Some things you just have to find for yourself.
bi_winner 7y ago
The funny thing is: When you are red-pilled, beta males and women subconsciously respect you and adore you. They cannot articulate what you possess, but they like it. When you try to unplug a man from your social sphere, let's say you hand them The Rational Male, one of the two things happen: They either go "Aha, I knew this was not real you.", and they lose all the respect and even go further to mock you, or they get convinced, learn the stuff and just like a sith apprentice, the moment they feel powerful enough, you become the target guy to be AMOGed. They pull all AMOG weird shit on you.
In both cases, it does not serve your purpose. NEVER UNPLUG OTHER MEN.
JonathanMekerset 7y ago
Gotta fight that provider instint
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MrTrizzles 7y ago
You can help others on their unplugging journey but not if you can only explain the concepts in TRP parlance, terms which were chosen to speak to a specific group of men, not the public at large.
When one has more of a mastery of the concepts they can get the same ideas across with words the target can digest, that meet him at his level of understanding and gently nudge him forward.
Noblefiz 7y ago
I agree. When I was dropping knowledge, I would try to explain it as simply as possible. Whenever I endeavor to explain complicated concepts to another person, I try to simplify it in such a way as that a child could understand it, and then build on t from there.
0fficialRider99 7y ago
Expensive dinner...I know instinctively that it’s a waste of resources that doesn’t have a guaranteed home run but not sure if it’s more worth it take the chance and not be outcome dependent or nexxt for gold digger quality red flags...
AshyLarry27 7y ago
The ONLY way to go about this is with:
Otherwise it's not only a waste of time, you create unneeded competition for the sake of "good feelz" for your "edgy, radical, but awesome new take on life, bro!"