Hi all how should I reply to this girl (recent history below). I don't know what she means when she talks about a pedestal it makes no sense.
[04/05, 14:35] Me - : Thanks for your honesty , that's incredibly rare and I appreciate it.
Please could you share some more details so that I can learn for my future relationships?
[04/05, 16:12] Her - : For one, I didn't like how you went straight to kissing me..I feel like you crossed a boundary there..I know I might not have said it but I didn't expect someone to kiss just when you have met them the first time( again I understand that for you it probably is normal but that just isn't me)..I may have gone along with it in the end but I feel like I was pushed into it..the pub date should have gave it away tbh..anyways, we probably weren't looking for the same thing because it is now apparent that you were probably into a casual thing.
[04/05, 16:15] Her - : I also think that my open-mindedness isn't as "open". I still value the traditional getting to know someone before I even so as kiss them..anyways, overall think you're aa good person and maybe I just wasn't a match for you..you're a good conversationalist and not boring at all.
[15/05, 16:24] Me - Yeah sounds like we both dodged a bullet Miss hot and cold
[15/05, 18:20] Her - : I am the prize, I shall never forget that
[15/05, 18:21] Her - : You complain that "we" put you on a pedestal but it's like you live for it?
[28/06, 18:56] : Me - I'm not following what you mean by this I don't remember mentioning a pedestal.
You really should find a nice boy your own age that treats you like a prize.
[28/06, 19:05] Her: The fact that you text me on a whim says alot about you sir
[28/06, 19:06] Her: Why you thinking of me randomly then?
[28/06, 19:38 Her: - : And i am a prize
Attempt to answer own question:- I guess you might say its a waste of time responding further but my draft reply is "Doing things on a spontaneous whim is the spice of life. I owe some incredible adventures to that mindset"

mattyanon Admin 1d ago
Dude, let this shit go.
Farang131 1d ago
Ok fair enough mate.
Vermillion-Rx Admin 1d ago
What kind of frame is this??
1) women could be honest 24/7 and they often choose not to. If she was so overt with you so as to be "honest" it's because she was desperate to reject you. This isn't a win
2) even if this was rare honesty, just say okay and then don't text her again. Never heard of prize mentality?
Yet she's this invested in telling you....
Look dude escalate better. This one clearly cared and you bungled it. Don't force a kiss. It is extremely obvious when they want a kiss with even half experience
Women have no boundaries with Chad. Modern women have almost zero boundaries outside of telling you not to ask about their past too much. They learn that word in therapy and from men who respect themselves. If a woman says the B word with you, you fucked up somewhere. They don't say "boundaries" with Chad
She's fucked on the first date before if she even went on a date at all. No need to stroke her ego with this bullshit womanese you just escalated poorly (not sure what you did because you didn't describe it)
"I'm a hoe, I will fuck any guy who games me correctly. I gave up some goods without proper escalation so now I'm blaming you for my desperate slutiness"
"I would totally let Chad one night stand me and get into situationships, just not with YOU"
No she doesn't. She has put out for less. I've yet to meet a traditional woman. That word has no meaning
"The attention was solid and you have good enough social skills, you just didn't wet my pussy before I let you kiss me"
What Bullet? She is about to fuck another guy if she doesn't already have a fling on the side already. Never text a woman this cringe again
Satire much? Dismiss it or agree and amplify it to the point of offense
Are you trolling? What woman talks like this? Why are you entertaining this at all
"K" or thumbs up reaction or no reaction at all is an entirely valid response after a failed date. You don't owe them anything, they are going to get their cheeks clapped that week if they aren't already. You don't need to assuage these retarded womanese conversations. Holy scarcity
Holy drama. She wanted to fuck you and you fumbled so now she's just spamming you with her underfucked energy and you're entertaining it instead of fucking her
I hope you're not trolling. If you aren't she is more red pilled than you. Read the sidebar
Farang131 1d ago
Yeah I wouldn't normally say that but someone here suggested it so I thought I'd do something different out of curiosity.
Yeah fair enough I was thinking that too
I met her in a pub we kissed a lot but I took her back to her place that had her housemates in so couldn't escalate.
I'm saying I dodged a bullet because shes hot and cold drama
I tried to escalate to fucking but was unable to so I guess she didnt want to fuck otherwise it would have happened.
I already dismissed it by "saying you should find a nice guy to treat you like a prize"
No I'm not trolling its an exact quote.
In the end she was initiating kissing I bungled the kissing by moving too fast then at least somewhat fixed it as she was the one sometimes initiating them.
How does that make her more red pilled than me you lost me there.
I tried to escalate to fucking but she wouldn't.
Musicgoon78 3 1d ago
Why are you spinning your wheels over this chick? You've wasted your time and now everyone's time who read this.
If you're not getting what you want, learn to move on. She's not going to suddenly change her mind and fuck you.
Farang131 1d ago
Ok fair enough I see it more as feedback to do better on the next one but point taken regardless.
Typo-MAGAshiv Endorsed Contributor 1d ago
This.
First-light 2 1d ago
She told you the truth at the start and then she was just playing with your thirst. She didn't want you (by the time it got to this texting) but she was a bit put out that didn't think she was enough of a prize to court her, so when you texted her from thirst, she played with it to feel good about herself.
brazilianxof 23h ago
"Yeah sounds like we both dodged a bullet Miss hot and cold"
"You really should find a nice boy your own age that treats you like a prize."
Clearly you, Farang, were "please stay" side. Read your words. You didn't want her to speak "for learning", but to debate her reasons and make her feel wrong. Well i bet if she had a doubt, after this she's 100% on her standing now.
Learn the lesson: do not debate reasons and next. Also, that you are just a dude, not the prince of roman empire, thus no one owes you shit.
Farang131 23h ago
It was already done after I said that stuff so makes no difference to the end result.
"You really should find a nice boy your own age that treats you like a prize" - How exactly is this whining? Saying yeah I agree find someone else is whining now? Saying yes find someone else is a debate now? Ok if you say so.
Farang131 23h ago
Ok I appreciate your reply I think there is a misunderstanding here.
I am a fair bit older than her so when I said "You really should find a nice boy your own age that treats you like a prize" I was saying you should find someone else. I don't consider that whining or debating but I understand how it could seem that way to you without the context.
Yes true but better to act like a prince of roman empire than the way a lot of guys act. I am not under the illusion that anyone owes me anything not sure where you got that idea from.
Typo-MAGAshiv Endorsed Contributor 20h ago
none of this stuff is about getting any one particular woman. Ever. Not even if you're married. It's about becoming more fuckable to more women.
If one woman rejects you, forget her and move on.
If every woman rejects you, figure out what's unattractive about yourself and fix it.
Don't waste your time like that.
Farang131 19h ago
Exactly I am looking to optimise in general and have received useful information from this site to that end
No-Stress-Cat 2 13h ago
Never surprise smooch. You move in close enough to, and pause. Let her decide if she's going to take you up on your offer. She'll either close the gap, or make some distance. Then you'll know where you stand.
Farang131 13h ago
Ok fair enough mate