I need help understanding this from the community. My buddy is a very good guy - big heart, but is fundamentally unable to be RP’d (I have tried countless times). He has the worst cases of oneitis I’ve seen. Long story short, he was interested in this one girl who disclosed to him she was unhappy in her relationship. They began talking and I guess getting close given how infatuated my buddy became. He confesses he likes her and she ends things with her man and confesses to him she has feelings as well. He’s over the moon. They go out a few times and she begins telling him very intimate things. At this point, they are texting daily. Then suddenly, she goes silent. He reaches out and she basically tells him she just wants to be friends. I don’t think he responded to this message. This woman has strung my buddy along for months. He was bitching and moaning about this every single time I saw him. I tried to get him to move on every single time. Then, suddenly, she tries to come back into his life after about 2 months of that LJBF comment. I told him never to engage again and live his life. They apparently see each other through mutual activities (idk what). My question is, is this common? Additionally, would not responding/responding “no” to her LGBF offer affect this outcome? None of this makes sense to me as a 3rd party observer.
Please also give me tips to get him away from this woman.
Thanks
Typo-MAGAshiv Endorsed Contributor 11h ago
He has to make his own mistakes. Most men, myself included, only really learn through pain.
Overkill_Engine Endorsed Contributor 2h ago
Yup. Some monkeys have to stick their hands in the fucking fire before they believe it'll burn them.
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No-Stress-Cat 2 9h ago
You can't truly Red Pill another man. Only women can. All of us here have suffered and been broken at the hands of women, and had to rebuild ourselves from the ground up.
You seem to be more obsessed with her than you are with him. It's not your relationship, so just leave them alone. Your interference will only serve to drive a wedge between you and your bro. She's got her claws in him. He's dumb, deaf, and blind, and if it comes down to it, he will pick her over you. Is that really a risk you're willing to take?
You can warn him and warn him, but he can't hear you. He's stuck inside this bubble that only he can come out of on his own. Your job as his friend is to wait for her to shatter him, then be there for him to help pick up the pieces.
Like @Typo-MAGAshiv said, the only way for hard core Blue Pill men to learn is to suffer through the pain of making their own mistakes. It's all part of the journey. Yeah, he's in a bad situation now, but he will eventually come out on the other side, and he will be okay.
First-light 2 9h ago
Your poor friend will have to learn this the hard way, but you could ask his permission to bookmark the conversation and revisit it when it goes wrong and he has wasted his investment in her. You could then explain why it went wrong. He may well not listen even then but gradually the balance of evidence may pile up for him.
Blue pill thinking + hope = orbiting = eventual resource loss and self esteem hit
Vermillion-Rx Admin 9h ago
Don't try to red knight your bros. It never works out
Men that committed to chasing women will not listen to rhyme or reason
And whatever you do red pill him with, he will only dislike you for it
mattyanon Admin 2h ago
He was the emotional support tampon and plan B security blanket - giving her the confidence to leave the guy she was with and chase somebody else.... who she then got...then the LJBF chat.... and who has now dumped her.... hence the chatting again.
ish.
Women like this prey on and manipulate nice guys who follow the beta programming of "give endless love and attention and pray for eventual marriage".
They absolutely know what they are doing and have a range of come-backs lined up if ever the situation changes. She has lines literally ready.... "I didn't know you felt that way"... and she has lines ready for if sex is a possibility... "I really like you buy I'm not quite ready for that yet".
Yes.
It should if you've been around TRP for a while.
Your friend needs to learn a few lessons. Being an emotional tampon gets you used. You give away all power and get nothing.
So don't be a fucking emotional tampon. Lead with looks, charisma, style, attractiveness. Try to fuck women. DITCH WOMEN WHO ARE NOT FUCKING YOU.
As a beginner at age 18, you should ditch a woman you have not had sex with in 30 hours in her company. At 30 hours you're in the friendzone, but you couldn't escalate faster.
Intermediate at age 25, that should be 20 hours.
Man of the world at age 30, that limit is 10 hours.
If you've been in her company for 10 hours, presumably attempted to escalate to being alone together and then to sex.... if it's not clearly happening at 10 hours, time to NEXT.
The next can be quite soft... you can fade them out..... or even accept them as friends (ie MUTUAL BENEFIT) but you most definitely should filter out the timewasters at 10 hours and put your efforts into women who might want your dick bashing their cervix.