What’s up brothers, hope everyone’s holding frame. Dropping the complete play-by-play of this coworker situation from start to now, no fluff, just facts. This happened in the staff lodge/school where I live (shared room with two other guys). Target is a female teacher who only shows up twice a week because she has her own apartment in another town. It started with clear IOIs from her over time: unnecessary playful touches, laughing at stuff that wasn’t funny, visible tension/nervousness whenever she was around me. Then during a group Truth or Dare game with staff, she straight-up said “If I had to date any guy here, it would be me”. She also said her relationship status RN is complicated because she's not ready for a serious relationship right now. Took that as a textbook green light for casual / plate spinning – no commitment, just smash.
Goal was simple: get to her apartment and bang. No place of my own, so logistics had to be at hers. Fast-forward to Monday Morning (yesterday).
She came to the lodge/school and ended up in my room hanging with me and my roommate (she's a casual friend to my roommate). When roommate stepped out for a minute, I hit her with “There’s something I want to tell you” then paused and said nothing. Roommate walked back in after 40–50 seconds. Later she slid into my DM privately and asked
“You said you wanted to talk to me, is it something private?” (NOTE: We have never texted before, maybe she got my number from our Whatsapp group) .
When roommate stepped out again, she asked verbally what it was. Told her “We’ll talk.” She said okay.
She also forgot her charger cord in the room by accident. Few hours later she messaged again asking if the charger was really there. I I Replied short: “Here✔️” She thumbs-upped. That night around 9 PM, decided to open the original “is it something private?” DM and run some game. To build intrigue, I decided to start by.
Me: “Why are you doing this?” Her: “How do you mean” Me: “Something about you has been bugging me.” Her: “What?” Me: “If I tell you now, u might overthink it. You know what?” Her: “Not interested” That was the last message. Didn’t reply. Haven’t opened anything else, no double-text, no viewing stories, full radio silence since then.
My plan was to tell her "I want to come and see you at your apartment." after my last message (You know what?)
I FEEL MY MISTAKE WAS:
I built strong intrigue and got her chasing multiple times in one day with a “private thing” hook, but prolonged the mystery without closing to a meet-up fast → she defensively shut it down with “Not interested” (likely thinking I was heading toward a serious/relationship talk). Or she want to preserve her ego. Or maybe she's joking/shit testing. Anyway, I didn't reply her again and don't plan to.
I feel a bit pained though, because I wanted to bang her, and she seemed into me
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Ronaldraygun77 1d ago
I’ll echo what Mattyanon said: you were both over thinking every aspect of this interaction (girls pick up on this) as well as tried too hard to be gamey/mysterious over text(which girls definitely pick up on too). The goal is to make it FEEL like it just happened naturally, like she’s the one picking you up. She left her charger at yours, say you’ll drop it off on a night you know she’s free/alone, find a reason for her to invite YOU inside, and close from there.
kawzero Should i (x1) 17h ago
Alright bro, thanks. I really messed up.
Ronaldraygun77 15h ago
Just a learning experience mate, we’ve all had our fair share.
kawzero Should i (x1) 14h ago
Thanks for the support. I feel better now. Will improve with time .
ogrilla99 2d ago
I think what happened was you treated "going to her place" with the exact opposite emotional temperature than you should have. You made it seem like some big, momentous thing. With all your hinting, teasing about it. You should have done the exact opposite: make her feel that, if she brought you back to her place, it is no big deal. It doesn't even mean that you will definitely have sex.
You might be thinking several steps ahead and thinking about how to get this woman into bed. But in her mind, she must always maintain plausible deniability. Which means, each step, all the way until you actually put your penis into her vagina, she should always be able to think "I wasn't intending to have sex." that's why when it finally does, so many woman say "I don't know how, it just happened." (Note: this is not the same as forcing someone against their will. If she refuses at any stage, you back off).
Look at it from another POV: let's say you had your own place, and you wanted to invite a girl over to have sex. Would you tell her: "come over because I want to have sex"? No. You say "hey, it's really loud in here, and my place is close by. Come over and we can continue our conversation there. I have a bottle of wine I've been meaning to open and want to see what you think of it." She knows where this is going. She's not dumb. But she can always justify it in her mind as "I'm just going over to check out his wine."
In your specific situation, I would not have played up this huge mystery and suspense bullshit. It's a woman's role to be dramatic. Your role as a guy is have a "nothing phases me" energy. Looking at your texts, to me, they sound more unhinged red headed bipolar chick who's off her medications, than they do intriguing man of mystery. What is so important that you can't spit it out after several hours? And what do you mean by "Why are you doing this?" What did she do to you?
I'm not surprised that after going back and forth a little, and giving you multiple opportunities to speak your mind, she finally gives up, figures you're either too scared to say what's on your mind, or too mentally unstable to have a consistent thought, and either way, she wants no further part in it.
Here's my advice: First off, if at all possible, fix your logistics. Even if it's as simple as have an arrangement with your roommates that they find somewhere else to be for a few hours when you need the room. In college we all had roommates. And people even took to crude stuff like hanging socks on their doors to tell their roommates to not come inside. When I was in college, that happened to me sometimes, and you know what, I had no problem sitting in the lounge watching tv or doing my homework until my roommate came down and gave me the all clear. Because we were bros, and besides, he'd give me all the juicy details later :-)
If you really wanted to go to her place, and she's not inviting you, then you needed to make it as easy as possible for her to do so, by making it seem like it's no big deal, nothing different than stopping over at a friend's place. When guys walk a girl home and wait at the doorstep to see if she'll invite him in, they don't say "I need to tell you something later". They say stuff like, "your place seems nice" and the woman doesn't say "come inside so we can have sex". They say, "you wanna come up and get a glass of water before you head home?"
You should be doing the same thing. If you want to be more forward and push things faster, ask her about her place during a normal talk (like maybe during lunch, or breaks in class), and note some details. Maybe she mentions some flowers she's planted. Or a new painting she just hung on her wall. Then, when a time comes to hang out say, "my roommates are at home. Let's go to your place instead. You can show me that painting you really like. I need to know if your taste in artists is good or total shit ;-)" Make it seem like it's no big deal to bring you over. And then escalate from there.
Bottomline: whatever it is that you planned to tell her, you imbued it with way too much drama, when you should have been trying to make it as casual and non-dramatic as possible. And women do not want drama from a man. That's their role.
kawzero Should i (x1) 2d ago
Well said bro, Thanks for the advice.
I really messed up here. I feel pained too. she might see me as less a man and very immature. I think I also lost frame.
She might be serious with her reply, has lost interest or was kidding/shit testing. However all I want Is to bang her, the IOIs from her have been a lot.
Maybe the intrigue I created, was too much, but it is what it is. She's coming to school tomorrow morning, her charger cable is till in my room, so we'll definitely meet tomorrow.
I plan to just laugh at her reaction tmrw, when we meet, and then be like "what were you thinking I wanted to you?" Then make fun of her reacting like a little girl etc etc, From there I will tell her in a very serious manner "I want to come over to your place"
What do you think I do?
Honestly, my plan is to make her a plate and be fucking each other. I hate LTRs, have never had one.
She's also indicated she doesn't want anything serious, so makes sense to be fucking her.
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mattyanon Admin 2d ago
You are doing autism-mode level of manipulative texts, and you suck at it, and you're trying to preplan shit that you can't control.
Don't discuss this stuff over text, it doesn't work for you.
Women pretend to be interested to play for time while they make up their mind and test for genuine attraction.
It's what they do, get used to it.
Next.
kawzero Should i (x1) 1d ago
Alright bro. Thanks
GeorgeIII 3d ago
First off, you didn’t manage to isolate her due to poor logistics. Since everyone in your lodge knows each other, escalating is very difficult. It’s not like 2 people drunk in a bar with strangers.
Second, your “escalation” was probably bad. In your description, I see a lot about talking and texting, but nothing about your kino. Honestly, this reminds me of when I tried to escalate as an 18 year old. Which didn’t go well. Less talking, more doing. Girls talk, men do.
Third, the way you talked + texted pretty much killed all plausible deniability. And if you did actually ask to go to her place, you would’ve been rejected anyway. You put a lot of pressure on her, without teasing her or flirting with her. Which is not fun at all, from the woman’s PoV. Classic dude approach lol.
A better way this could’ve turned out:
TLDR: fix your logistics, and fix your escalation/kino/seduction. These 2 things combined made it impossible for her to feel DTF. And you MUST isolate. None of this, “we were there with my roommate” shit.
kawzero Should i (x1) 3d ago
Thanks for the deep insights bro. This is a solid take.
I really messed up here. I feel pained too. she might see me as less a man and very immature. I think I also lost frame.
She might be serious with her reply, has lost interest or was kidding/shit testing. However all I want Is to bang her, the IOIs from her have been a lot.
Maybe the intrigue I created, was too much, but it is what it is. She's coming to school tomorrow morning, her charger cable is till in my room, so we'll definitely meet tomorrow.
I plan to just laugh at her reaction tmrw, when we meet, and then be like "what were you thinking I wanted to you?" Then make fun of her reacting like a little girl etc etc, From there I will tell her in a very serious manner "I want to come over to your place"
What do you think I do?
Honestly, my plan is to make her a plate and be fucking each other. I hate LTRs, have never had one.
She's also indicated she doesn't want anything serious, so makes sense to be fucking her.
I'm a handsome guy, in shape, and workout regularly. Girls show interest in me a lot. Maybe, I have to be more direct with my approaches with women after several IOIs.
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GeorgeIII 3d ago
Dude, stop. This one has sailed. Accept that this one has been fumbled, and move on.
Unpopular opinion: by shutting you down over text, she actually did you a kindness. You (should) know not to continue to pursue now.
If you go for it again, you will only look MORE tryhard. Doesn’t matter if you go for casual or LTR. At this point, approaching more demonstrates to her that you don’t have any frame at all, and that you will do anything to bang. SHE rejected YOU, without even wanting to hear what you had to say. The only way this can be healthily salvaged is if SHE decides to isolate you or jump on your bones. Again, I cannot say it enough, making another approach shows you don’t have any frame at all. Zero.
Number 1, 2, and 3: figure out your logistics problem. If you don’t fix that, you’ll have the same issue with the next girl. Keep in mind that you can’t invite girls to THEIR places. They might not want you there, have their own roommates, etc.
As for what to do in the short term, give her the charger, don’t bring her to your room, don’t pull any moves on her. Just give her the charger, and go back to being 2 coworkers, no flirty shit. And really mean it, in your own heart and soul. If this is a school, continuing to approach can destroy your social standing with other girl teachers, if they become interested in you.
And last, why so hung up on this chick? She hasn’t even kissed you, and 2 posts about her so far.
If the above is true, go pursue those other options. Don’t overtly tell us you are handsome and that girls like you. Just go out there and do it.
Your problem wasn’t how direct or indirect you were. She was very clearly understanding of what you wanted. You just didn’t isolate, and escalated poorly. Use kino and tease her. What’s more fun? Telling a girl you want to seduce her, or just seducing her without telling?
kawzero Should i (x1) 3d ago
Alright bro. Thanks for the advice. It's hard to swallow, but it's excellent.
No-Stress-Cat 3d ago
Her: "Did I leave my charger there?"
Me: Yeah. I'll be down that way later. I can swing by and drop it off.
Her: "Okay."
*sometime later, shows up at her place, isolation successful*
Her: "You brought my charger? Want to come in for a minute?"
Me: Yeah, and here it is, but I can't stay long. Now, take off your panties.
kawzero Should i (x1) 2d ago
Won't this look too desperate?
No-Stress-Cat 2d ago
If you whisper it into her ear, it's like an ASMR trigger. Will giver her a tingle. Women react to tingles. She'll either shy away or drop her drawers.
But you gotta be real confident to pull it off. You have to put yourself in the dominant position, as if she belongs to you, that pussy is yours, and you want it (not that you're going to take it - that's creepy - but that she's going to give it to you of her own free will).
If she declines, just let it simmer in her brain for a few days, that hamster will be spinning like crazy. Just don't puss out and say something like, "Oh, I'm just kidding." That will put you in the friend zone at best, beta orbiter at worst. You said it, stick to it, no apologies.
kawzero Should i (x1) 1d ago
Alright bro. Thanks