In my last post, I sent a massive text block describing a few encounters with a neighbor that just wanted to friend zone me. After confronting her on her friend zoning bullcrap, she has distanced herself from me, and the couple of times we have tallked since, she has actually invited me agan to go out, I have made it very clear that I prefer to go out alone with her, not inviting her or anything. Radio silence lol. I actually understand what you guys told me on that post after these last interactions,
Was it the spergiest post you have read in the last 365 days? Most likely, and I am not proud of this.
My main issue here is that I spent a few years off game and the market for self improvement. I have achieved great stuff by myself, and for that I am very happy and satisfied. So the key terms here are Isolation, scarcity and no experience since 2020 (yes, covid killed me too)
Literally I have only gamed 2 chicks since I came off the turtling mode,only fucked and dated one for a few weeks.
Ive been gaming women at work with some success (sex off the table, just fun and social skills), they are very friendly and I have made a nice reputation and good social life and skills with this, just by gaming and not really seducing or trying to smash. They actually come to me, sometimes with a gift and we share lunch and many laughs, some good times there with invitations to go out and do stuff as friends, which is nice for me.
I have no doubts I am a confident guy, and I dont doubt my social skills, i have done this before, im just rusty and dusty,
But the romance and sex life is another deal. I still feel isolated since these women are off limits to me (I wont fuck coworkers). And I recently uninstalled dating apps since they are shit, i only met one woman in a full year. Abundance mentality is here, but actual abundance of real prospects is not. You can feel rich if you wanna, but 400 bucks in your bank account speak for themselves.
What do I do here to improve this scarcity reality, not the mindset just the lack of time and people?
Answer to my own Q is to game on my free time, as much as I can, which I am trying to. Keep it up because It has only been a few months since September that I started to actually meet women after trying since early 2025.
Any tips or something? I can try cold approach. Cashiers are cute but uninterested too hehe

mattyanon Admin 6h ago
Please read it again. You still talk without any understanding of where she's coming from.
I am not saying you should tolerate the friendzone.
But you handled this really badly, and did yourself no favours.
You don't need to be overt with any of this. You just politely decline any "doing stuff for her", and if you want her alone say so, and if she's not up for it, then fine...... it doesn't need rambling resentful complaining. The texts you send are not attractive and you are trying to make her understand and you are using logic - none of these things work. This is just not what women respond to.
terrible plan
by "gaming" you mean "being social and having fun" I hope
great....... but this isn't "gaming". and shouldn't be.
your need to explain and complain is extremely socially miscalibrated and points to a deep seated misunderstanding of women and people.
good
good
no it's not
well, you need to get girls
Forget cashiers - it's unfair, they have to be polite, they can't leave. Thus your signals are false.
Advice: try to understand where the women you interact with are coming from, learn to not complain or explain.
And find a way to meet women who have the option to leave.
MrSupreme 3h ago
Honestly, game is always on, whether you're aware of it or not,and it is more than seduction and señling things. That's the way I understood it from reading Roissy.
There's always some sort of game in all interactions, somebody wants something from you,or you want something from someone.
But yeah, I meant just enjoying some nice reputation and social life.
Isolation and sedentism played a big role during covid and beyond for me, for about 3-4 years. So I'm just coming out of that shit.
GeorgeIII 5h ago
Your result with this chick wasn’t surprising, given that you wrote a text wall and had been dealing with her for months. A few key conclusions…
1: You don’t have abundance mindset. To get abundance mindset, you need to have actual abundance (duh).
2: I recall you said you live in Venezuela. Not a great place these days, not just for girls. You need to move. Can you move to Columbia or somewhere else?
3: Never talk so overtly about the friend zone or wanting to date her/isolate a girl again. Overtly is how men communicate with men. Women want to experience romance. They do not want to be told they are being romanced. Being overt about not wanting the FZ was the most spergy thing you did. Being that spergy will kill your chances, even with high interest women.
4: Most importantly, if you ever have been dealing with a woman for months, you are never gonna get her in bed. If you’re still trying to figure out how to fuck her, you have no shot. If she is attracted to you, she will find a way to be alone with you and fuck you. Investing more time into her without sex just shows her you are acting beta. In the future, if you feel the need to write a text wall, it means you should just give up on the girl. Girls who actually like you are easy to deal with.
Read Rollo Tomassi’s 3rd Iron Rule: https://therationalmale.com/2011/09/23/wait-for-it/
In fact, you need to wake up and read a lot.
Vermillion-Rx Admin 4h ago
You actually only need to be able to be abundant, you don't need any current options to have abundance
Unless that's what you meant
Vermillion-Rx Admin 4h ago
I broke my Xbox controller pressing X to doubt.
You do not have the frame or optimism here reflective of just being rusty. That's normal for dudes but you need to be honest with yourself instead of coping. It's not just being rusty. You were never as confident as you think you were
You notice how the women you're having fun with and not even trying to smash are investing in you?
There's a lesson in there and you're not making any use of it.
MrSupreme 3h ago
Agree on the last part.Indeed I need to go out there and interact with actual people, not cashiers or friend zone chicks.
Vermillion-Rx Admin 3h ago
That's not the takeaway message at all my dude
Work on your shit and be a fun guy to be around who isn't ACTIVELY trying to smash
You might really want to bang a chick bad and jerk it to her likeness in your mind every night, but you don't actively try. You run 85-90% regular social skills and slip in 10-15% game, touch, slipping in an innuendo between zen asshole comments (in jest of course) at her expense for your enjoyment and women will make moves on you. You really don't have to try just have fun and run game surgically
Women will come to you and make it easy then you just make plausible deniability plans, escalate in private and smash
but you just be fun at first and not a socially retarded thirst lord, that's quite literally it