as i get older i notice my erection quality has gone down. erections aren't as strong or don't last as much as they did when I was younger. during sex, I could edge for hours, or cum multiple times and be just as hard. now i can go for maybe 15-20 minutes until i start slowly losing my erection and eventually just go flaccid. i.e. the problem isn't getting hard, but rather staying hard.
i only ever do bodybuilding style weightlifting for exercise; i heard that cardio (both steady state and interval training) is where it's at for sexual health, because from what i gather erection quality depends on your cardiovascular system. also, i heard kegel exercises may help. i'm also not taking any drugs or prescription meds atm. diet seems ok too: red meat, fish, eggs, dairy, fruits, veggies, mostly legumes for carbs. sleep is ok: 7-8 hours daily. stress could use some work, i do get a lot of stress lately.
those of you that developed issues with erection quality, how did you fix it and what was the culprit?

GeorgeIII 2d ago
OP, if you can last 15-20 minutes with an actual woman, I wouldn't worry. That's better than the vast majority of healthy men. You need to game and foreplay a woman to stimulate her before anyway, so you don't need to be pounding her rock hard for 2 hours every time.
First-light 2 2d ago
I had some issues during covid. Whether it was the virus of the vaccine I took to please a work colleague I don't know but It was quite worrying. I was also not too fit then. Bought dick pills in 2020 -Cialis- but then got fit and never finished the pills.
In terms of a quick fix, nitric oxide boosters. Beets are a good thing to eat and arginine is a good amino to supplement.
Longer term balanced cardiovascular fitness is a great goal. People from a gym background tend to naturally gravitate towards intervals but really intervals are the icing on the cake of cardio vascular fitness. No athlete is complete without some interval training but bear in mind that the scientific studies that tend to back one sort of other of intervals as being the biggest bang for your buck are all short term. It takes many months to make the long term cardiovascular changes and scientists want simple studies with sexy results.
Hard intervals are what coaches use to induce peaking in athletes. So its no surprise that a month or two of hard intervals show up as giving great results in scientific studies -the nerds are demonstrating very well that peaking work outs work -well who would have thought? But you can't hold a peak.
Look at what the coaches of good athletes are prescribing, not just at the latest fashions. The 80:20 "rule" of base work to hard interval work is much touted and will keep you safe though, in fairness, starting out on cardio vascular fitness, you can be more like 70:30 or more as you don't have the high volume. Whatever, no one should be without a long slow run once a week/ ten days. I have just got back form my ten miles. It was a bit cold this morning. You just won't get some adaptations if you are running with high lactate levels. Most of the time you want your red muscle to be saying "oh yum, yum lactate is my favourite fuel give me more blood supply to utilise what my white pals are turning out" not "Shit another lactate dump from those white bastards, these hydrogen ions are burning us all too much to cope" Also your endothelium is precious to your circulatory health. Don't constantly burn and scour it with too much intensity.
I can understand someone who has been working in the gym a lot being worried about getting too catabolic with a lot of cardio vascular work. I call it the "endurance athlete's paradox" -how can you achieve anything anabolic if you are always getting into deeply catabolic states. This is not an entirely groundless fear but it really only makes a significant difference to those at the very top of their game. I have a daughter who is a good middle distance athlete, XC runner and steeple chaser. Recently a gym bunny started to follow her on her social media. This girl was an ex pro bikini fitness competitor. We thought it a bit odd but - what is some roided up girl who takes slutty pictures of her abs doing messaging an athlete? But then this girl pops up at a local 5k race and introduces herself. It turns out that she decided she now wants to be fit more than to look fit and has become a very good runner. We have seen her a few times at local 5ks and my daughter does not wait too long to shake her hand on the finish line. She is running 5k in under 18.30 while carrying a lot of excess muscle and fake tits. She does 10 mile long runs. If women can have real cardiovascular fitness fitness and carry muscle, men certainly can.
When it comes to the number of times you can climax and the refractory period, consider Prolactin levels. I would not touch Cabergoline with a barge pole -the heart valve damage risk is way high. But consider working on prolactin's antagonist -dopamine. The dopamine feedback loop is no way as complex as the Test feedback loop. If you can nudge it in the right direction it can often stay there. Look at what aminos encourage dopamine -off the top of my head I would say tyrosine. Also consider making sure your life is full of small rewards and that you enjoy them.
I think Dopamine is a big part of erectile health. Consider how when you get a new woman you suddenly can do it lots more -because there is a bigger dopamine reward from the novelty. The same also applies to running two women at the same time. You rarely find you can't please both of them in the day. Getting on to something different is a real reward based turn on. Its probably all there is behind those couples who find they need to do more and more freaky shit just to get off -they need fresh rewards, so try to make this part of your life, as opposed to just your sex life. The stereotypes of the high dopamine guy having plenty of sex really are true. Trying to de-stress and get small joys from life is a real help.
Kegels, yeah I think they help but only to a point. If your pelvic floor is already good from your gym exercises, it may not make a huge difference but its a easy to find out by doing a few weeks of them.
SeasonedRP 2 2d ago
I wasn't aware of that about caber. I haven't used it, though I know some who have. I wouldn't think episodic use at a low dose would be an issue but could be wrong.
First-light 2 2d ago
I think you are right that the evidence is that low dose does not do much to increase risk, particularly if its episodic, so it may be OK but its a scary thing to be getting into if you value your cardiovascular system. It would be a bit like worrying about your liver health and taking alcohol low dose. Probably OK but why risk it?
One never knows one's own sensitivity until one tries a drug out. Unless one had bloodwork to say prolactin is way high, I think it might be best to tinker with the dopamine promoters, rather than suppress the prolactin with Caber.
But maybe I was a bit strong in being so anti. One just fears fucking people up with internet advice. Its so easy to get these meds these days.
SeasonedRP 2 2d ago
I definitely wouldn't use it unless a lab test indicated a problem with prolactin. And I doubt the OP has an issue with it, though you never know. The guys I know who had prolactin problems got them from their use of various hormones at doses way beyond therapeutic levels. They used caber for relief but also discontinued the compounds/doses that were causing the problem.
mattyanon Admin 2d ago
cardio can really help.
same for general fitness. same for low bodyfat (but not too low, eg go for about 12%).
stress doesn't help
get your bloodwork tested, esp. T (obviously), HGH, a few things like that.
SeasonedRP 2 2d ago
I'd get lab work and see what your testosterone, estrogen, and prolactin levels are. Cardio is always a good addition to a fitness routine (I need to do more of it myself). But I'd get lab work and see if any hormones are out of whack.
Typo-MAGAshiv Endorsed Contributor 4d ago
How old are you?
Yes. You need cardio for overall health. Lifting is more important overall, but you still need cardio.
bryce 4d ago
ED has many potential causes, most of which are treatable. But a bunch of strangers on a forum can't tell you which one(s) need treating. See your doctor. Get the lab work done.
Running on a treadmill isn't going to give you back the rock hard erections you enjoyed as a younger man, but you should be doing some cardio anyway, especially as you age. It's great for overall health as well as maintaining balance, and mobility.
No-Stress-Cat 4d ago
An old man in his 80's woke up one morning to a rock hard dick.
He reaches over to his sleeping wife and shakes her awake to show her.
"Well," he says, "What do you think we should do about this?"
She looks down and back up at him and smiles.
"Now that you got the wrinkles out, you should probably go wash it."