I have a friend for about 5 years. She sees me as a platonic-only and same with me. I did date her friend 2 years ago briefly. Atp, were more like just two dudes. But shes single for a year now and I`m also single. We dont live in same city but communicate regularly.
Im feeling too horny and want to just sleep with her. Id be visiting her for new years and want to do it then. Problem is were too platonic, Im not in shape and never flirted etc (i saw her just as a friend). How do I make this happen. I just want to get into a fwb kindof situation, but how do i initiate and not come off as creep etc.

Overkill_Engine Endorsed Contributor 15h ago
You've already been friendzoned, any reassessment on her part is not likely to be to your benefit, go fix your shit and find some other women to dick instead of fixating on one that is already confirmed to be not interested in fucking you.
Women decide that shit even faster than men do (but will likely never confess that truth even under torture, they benefit too much from obfuscation of that and instinctively know it), if you have known her this long and you are both single and she has never even tried to give you an opening, she isn't interested and there is absolutely no magical pussy password that will change that. You can try a Count of Monte Cristo but even that is a Hail Mary whose effort is better invested elsewhere.
mattyanon Admin 15h ago
Same with you..... see you see it as platonic only, got it.
err... ok.... so you're not seeing her as platonic only like you said above.
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my dude...... assuming this is a serious post, there is so much wrong here.
Here's your fundamental problem: you are not in shape, you are not dating, you do not have options.
But you are horny and somewhat desperate (not being unkind, just reading between the lines) and therefore you are choosing a female you know, and you hope that being friends will somewhat smooth the way to getting laid.
This won't work, because you are friends with her. You are in the friend zone. She does not see you as a sexual being. She sees you as a friend, and she knows that sleeping with you will spoil the friendship (ie it will stop her receiving the future benefits of your friendship). She is (I would guess) at least somewhat attractive, therefore has good options.
You, however, do not have good options.
Unless she is blind, deaf, dumb and retarded: she is also very aware of everything I've said above.
Honestly it is easier to fuck a stranger than to fuck a female friend for 5 years. If she liked you, even a little bit, you would already know it by now.
If you want to try and fuck her:
The odds of this working are about 1 in 1000 if you're good, less if you don't know what you're doing.
Here's a better game plan to save your poor penis from a life of drought:
Vermillion-Rx Admin 14h ago
Is this trolling what is up with your formatting
mattyanon Admin 14h ago
whatever op is using for ' (apostrophe) is causing the formatting to go bonkers.
Vermillion-Rx Admin 13h ago
Oh I see
Angel11David 10h ago
After I have seen the title "How to sleep with a friend" without a question mark and computer code formatting, I thought someone posted a script I can just fire up on my PC and swimm in poon in no time
:(
Typo-MAGAshiv Endorsed Contributor 9h ago
You've known about my 100% foolproof method for quite some time now.
universitythrowaway 14h ago
You’re visiting for new years. Just drink with her for whatever activity you’re doing. Make it seem like it “just happened”. You could potentially save your friendship too if it doesn’t work by saying you had too much to drink that night.
No-Stress-Cat 11h ago
And for crying out loud, do not get her blasted drunk then try to make a move. That puts you in the SA category.
MrSupreme 12h ago
If you try and fail, it will be ruined forever.
If you succeed, you will get laid with a person you already love, and it will be nice.
There's a mental protocol on her, called "Friend-zone" where you're her friend.Always will be. Beta baiting will keep you hooked and giving her sexual attention, which is crack for women. Her (mentally) open door and possibility of a hookup is crack for betas, it gives the beta a sense of purpose.
Angel11David 10h ago
You could always up your chances by reframing your prior behaviour as something you did on purpose because reasons (gaslighting). But that5 needs some experience in crafting stories based on how you have been and having solid (new)frame and and and
You got to start more or less here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNYlsTFABYA
Typo-MAGAshiv Endorsed Contributor 9h ago
Have you actually read anything Red Pill? At least the sidebar?
Are you familiar with the concept of the FriendZone?
You're way better off starting fresh with a stranger, and escalating quickly.
First-light 2 8h ago
As we know, its unlikely to come off but if you want to take a punt, Break the mould. The habit is to see you as a friend, so take her away from the normal. Get into a situation where you can show a different side of yourself -an attractive exciting confident one. Isolate. This gives you both a degree of deniability if it goes wrong -there are no witnesses. It also gives her plausible deniability to let it go right -it was all a bit different that night and no one knew anyway. Be unapologetic if it is not coming off -"well I fancy you, so I thought I had better kiss you and see what happened" "Not sorry, I guess it was a mistake, hope I have not ruined our friendship". All women like to be desired. Do not apologise away your desire or you lower the compliment to a screw up by an orbiter. You never know if a seed you plant might not eventually pop up later in her mind one lonely night. Of course leave it alone for a long time if it does nto come off. Just leave it alone. No need to reopen it unless you want another try when things are very different. Desire is normal.
Musicgoon78 3 36m ago
First off, you're not going to convert her into a sex partner.
I'm going to be harsh right now: this is a very broad question. Finish reading the sidebar and then learn and practice game. If you're horny, go find available women and flirt with them. It's bad to suddenly flip the script on this chick.
You need to up your flirting and get good at it. This girl isn't an option. One you go there, you're also going to torch that friendship by pursuing sex.