When I see a cute girl and feel the urge to approach (I have zero approach anxiety thanks to approaching hundreds of women), I end up cockblocking myself.
Internally, I think I’m not man enough. It’s not about her. It’s not about that one person. I know I can pull the woman I’m approaching—hell, I’m already flirting, having fun, and staying outcome-independent—but I don’t ask for her number, and I don’t even want to have sex with her. It feels like too much hassle.
It’s not that she’s out of my league or that she’s so beautiful she’ll reject me. Who cares? What really bothers me is that I know my potential. I was once in incredible shape—mentally, physically, and spiritually strong; resilient and disciplined. I think this goes deeper than women. I want that man back. I need to work on this.
What’s your opinion on this? I’m not looking for advice like “approach more” or “fuck more.” I want to keep this philosophical. Is there anything I’m missing in the bigger picture?
Ps. I had a lot of partners in the past, I know what woman is, what sex is, what abundance mentality, spinning plates, oneitis is etc. These are not my problem.

Typo-MAGAshiv Endorsed Contributor 1d ago
You already know what you need to do. Do it.
qzone 22h ago
Of course you should get back on your path in terms of exercise/personal development. That may help with this level of shame you feel toward yourself and approaching at the moment due to where you are at with all of that. I relate wholeheartedly with this sentiment. If I haven't been lifting, if my mental hygiene is shit, if I have been a little bitch as of late, I am not going to approach. Even if most young attractive women do not put in a fraction of the effort in development that I know I do and I am assuming you do, unfortunately, first modern dating for men is feast or famine and second men must become and women just are. We can't afford to show up our undisciplined fat lazy selves. But even further than all of that, some part of me feels as though I have not earned it. Further, why would any attractive woman want to be approached by a fat lazy unmotivated dude with terrible mental hygiene? I have earned hooking up with a lazy entitled hot girl with a shitty personality when I have been fucking off for months playing video games and jacking off, but upon approach you have little idea whether the girl is the latter or if it is a girl that has an equal level of discipline, resilience, and work ethic. Is she going to entertain you/stick around if you are not where you need to be mentally, physically, and spiritually? If you are not resilient and disciplined? Even if she did, wouldn't the man that does not maintain those qualities just ruin the relationship? Could a man that does not maintain those qualities maintain a relationship with a quality woman over time? Let me know if I am off base with my analysis here.
I have another thought on your post. Of the tetrahedron of frame in Praxeology Volume 1: Frame, Rian Stone writes:
"The emotional pillar is where you become your own priest, your own psychiatrist, your own mental point of origin. You’ve built your physical pillar which makes this easier. Your hormones keep you level. You’ve built your intellectual pillar so now you can process whats happening in the world and act accordingly. Now you develop your emotional pillar, the most difficult pillar. You are learning to unlearn what you’ve always done by instinct. You are evolved to consume simple carbs, but you can learn to go on a diet. You are evolved to crack open the skull of anyone who threatens you, but you can learn to have a more controlled (and legal!) response. The key mental models you will learn in this section revolve around nice guy behaviors, assertiveness, covert contracts, and other instincts that sabotage your frame. By understanding how the failed parenting strategies of your parents’ generation caused you to process the world, you are able to stop making bad decisions driven by emotion and start making them as deliberate choices. You’re able to both understand why you’re having the emotions you’re having, and what you can do about them for better outcomes in your life. The emotional pillar is the final pillar for a reason. Most men believe that they can somehow change how they think which will enable them to change how they act. It works in reverse. We change how we act and it changes how we think. Asking a neurotic and sexually insecure man to approach women with confidence, or to stand up to his wife, is too ask of him the impossible as he can’t imagine a world where he doesn’t feel anxiety when standing up for himself. He needs testosterone to turn his 10/10 panic into a 2/10 panic. He needs an intellectual base to comprehend why all of his panic is misplaced. And he needs his emotional base to understand why the panic exists and what he can do about it."
Other than Rian's thoughts on the relationship between thoughts and behaviors contradicting fundamental cognitive theory, it seems as though your question's answer may fundamentally lie in the emotional pillar of frame. Either now for your mojo or later for when you find a chick, this is worth considering.
You should approach because you are a man with a dick that likes attractive women and also fucking their pussies, and maybe if the stars align, you find a really cool chick that has the right qualities to go the long haul with. If you are not approaching for that reason now, then why are you approaching? If you are not approaching chicks that you find attractive, then are you not, as a man, wanting to talk to attractive women?
kaanstks 22h ago
This was great to read. Thank you sincerely.
Yes, you were definitely on point when you mentioned “mental hygiene.” Being a bit lazy, fat, and weak lately is where these feelings are coming from. Still, this isn’t about women—it’s about being a man. It could be women, it could be your family, your community; you look at them and think you don’t deserve any of them because you’re not the man you imagine yourself to be. And the burden.
I’m still approaching and fucking well here and there occasionally. I’m not actively pursuing anything—just letting things happen organically—and I’m fine with that. This post was never about “help, I can’t approach because of this, how do I fix it so I can keep approaching and fucking more.” It was more about the stage of life—or the stage of manliness—I’m currently in, and whether any of you (apparently you) have experienced this. What exactly am I feeling?
I mean, yeah—the solution is as simple as the question: be your best version mentally, physically, sexually, and spiritually. Lift, read, approach etc. I’m just trying to figure out whether this feeling is something else, whether it actually means something.
I wasn’t aware of the book you mentioned. I’ll definitely read it. Thanks.
qzone 21h ago
I work around 50 hours a week in a role that directly benefits my community and spend quite a bit of time volunteering (I do not go out of my way to do this, it just ends up happening due to the value I bring to my community in my particular role. There is a never ending need for my skillset in my community), and I spend a much larger amount of time doing what benefits my family, friends, and the people around me to the point to where I often do not have time for my own personal aspirations.
This is a situation I have built up to overtime as I have built up my expertise in a valued and needed field and general competence. When anyone I know needs someone of my particular niche skillset, they call me. I know in typing this, it probably rings typical nice guy behavior (a la No More Mr Nice Guy by Dr. Robert Glover) but I suppose I operate more in life these days off of duty rather than pleasure, and I am and will be for a long time due to circumstances outside of my control in a place in life where I have to ask "what needs done" as opposed to "what do I want to do today?" To me, that is being a man. I still believe that discipline and self development is part of the puzzle to becoming a man, but I suppose discipline and self development is what led me to be needed by my community.
Now I don't have to go out of my way to be enough for my community due to the work I have put in, and I struggle to have time for say the gym many weeks (I am only on the forum today because I am sick). I guess when I ask myself "am I enough" for a girl I am approaching, the rubric for what that means is a bit different compared to being enough for family, community, friends, etc because degenerate drains on society date just the same as invaluable community and family members. Discipline and self development are definitely part of the puzzle for being enough for the caliber of women you or I would want as well... the caliber of women that the best version of you that you think of was enough for.
throwaway415 1 14h ago
You're a good man. Don't change and fuck whatever spergs on the internet tell you otherwise. It is men like you who built civilization, who dragged us out from living in caves and eating raw meat to having agriculture, cities, aqueducts, and eventually power plants and telecommunications. it is men like you who are becoming increasingly scarce as modern society feminizes and disillusions young men from being productive members of society. teach these values to your sons so that we may avert the impending collapse of civilization, or at the very least rebuild it from the ruins
qzone 4h ago
Thanks for the supportive words brother. I know that there are wackos, degenerates, and feminists out there who without realizing it are turning the world to shit. I just focus on taking care of and doing what I can for the people around me.
mattyanon Admin 18h ago
then do that.
NeoSpartan 14h ago
Leveled up, cracked the code, but sex and novelty becomes unfulfilling after a while.
I'm at the same spot I think. Getting girls is easy, but finding one worth investing in? Good luck, women are so broken and brainwashed in 2025 it's very hard to find wife material.
What sucks more is how long it takes to get past their fakeness and see the real person inside. Too often, they end up being a disappointment.
I dunno man, it's rough. Best plan I can come up with if you indeed feeling the same way is the basic rp stuff.
Spin plates, get a few in your pocket and get to know them. Maybe one will turn out to be one you want to stick with.
Once you get that point where they spill their purse, do some probing and shit tests.
That's my plan anyway. Very hard to find marriageable material out there but there must be some. And don't forget that they are very malleable. I think if 80% is there the other 20% isn't very hard to fix. Depending on it's nature right. Like if it is some dumb shit that she got from the media or college or w/e, you can pretty easily deprogram her if you maintain frame in most cases.
Jackmoter 11h ago
It sounds like you at some point attached your self worth to your disciplined mind and sculpted body. Now you do not have either but you are still able to approach women with the social skills you built in the past. But why would they sleep with you if you're not ripped?
Did you get ripped in the first place purely to attract women? Do you believe deep in that subconscious that women only go for muscular and ripped guys?
Regardless "You don’t become confident by shouting affirmations in the mirror, but by having a stack of undeniable proof that you are who you say you are. Outwork your self-doubt" - Alex Hormozi
Musicgoon78 3 4h ago
You're asking a question that you know the answer to. There's nothing philosophical about that...