There was one guy I knew he would walk around the mall and go up to every girl he came across and would ask, "Wanna fuck?"

He got slapped, yelled at, put down, and things thrown at him, but still got laid.

Here's your problem bro: you're results driven. The more you focus on results the deeper into sperg territory you're going to get. Pretty soon you're going to be in the territory of hopeless and giving girls the ick.

I can tell by what you wrote that your game and social skills aren't up to par. Social skills come first. You need to chat with everyone. "Approach" really is a bad term. This isn't a pass or fail test. You have to learn how to love conversations and love your own life.

Think of it like this: Guy A goes out to have fun. He's smiling, talking to everyone and simply enjoying his self. He's amused at his environment and engaged with whoever he's talking to. It's like an instant bond. He's the guy that figured out what everyone wants. How to make life enjoyable.

Guy B hones in on a target. He gives a canned sales pitch. He looks nervous. He tries to sell something that he doesn't really have to offer. The one or two yes's he gets are promptly ignored because he "texts for logistics". This is what women call rejection.

You tell me which guy sounds like the better option to a woman?

So first thing to do. Go out and talk to everyone. If you can't hold conversations with the general public, you can't attract women.

Second is if you get a yes, stop texting for logistics. If you're too autistic to not fuck up a text interaction, your date wouldn't have gone well.

This isn't a ratio. There's no magic number and special phrase. Focus on being social and enjoying your life. Hoping for results isn't going to do shit.

So women give me sexual IOIs

Will this is the thing. It's not really "sexual IOIs". This is poor naming from the TRP community.

Women wouldn't be imagining having sex with me or "playing" with me if I wasn't at least a prospect.

You don't understand women - and you are looking at this the wrong way.

I'm getting back into approaching. I live in the suburbs and I'm comfortable here. But it's not great for getting loads of dates.

I have around 20 approaches in a suburban area. Most nos and I got 3 flakes. I just text logistics.

Right

What's the ratio of how many women I'll have to approach? 100? Cause God damn. Its not like a city where you can cold approach 50 in a day. Suburbs not so much. Maybe 3-5 a week.

About 30 to get laid, if you're reasonably good looking and reasonably good at it.

Half will talk to you.... half will swap numbers.... half will flake on first date....... half will flake on second date...... half won't sleep with you after that.

Don't get too autistic with the numbers, but 5 halvings leaves you about 3% "lay to fuck" ratio. And that's if you're good.

Maybe half of women are somewhat available (no bf, unhappy with bf, slut, etc).... maybe half will like you....... of those, some will see someone else or logistics just won't work out. Everyone has a life, attractive women have options.

A lot of those "failed" interactions will be fun, and when you fuck them it will often be lots of times, so the 3% ratio is much better than it seems.

But something isn't right here.

If women are checking you out, then you are right to think you are basically attractive enough.

But if you are hearing "I have a BF" every time, then you're approaching wrong. If you're hearing it half the time, then it's all good.

Are women constantly emotionally cheating like this or am I missing something? Yes, plenty are, more than you think.

I think body language based IOIs are very indirect, generic, and a call for male attention, not usually yours specifically, just out of boredom it seems, more than a serious interest in an individual.

This is solely based on MY experience: At my 37 years, my only indicator is actually showing interest more directly. Looking for me,conversations, wanting to spend time with me, making time for my plans invited, always answering my texts (modern phone usage is the spergiest it has ever been though). I rely on that instead of fuck me eyes, looking at me or whatever bullshit they do for attention. All of that is very good for flirting when you have smashed once at least,

Its their way to call for dick/male attention, and they usually get it. But the indicators I mentioned are ways to call for MY dick, and that is what I care about, I have no interest in simping, chatting for more than a couple of weeks without escalating into seeing each other and other stuff.

What's the ratio of how many women I'll have to approach? 100?

That's a number, not a ratio. But frequent rejection is just part of the male experience.

Are women constantly emotionally cheating like this or am I missing something? Cause that sucks. Advice?

Get better at differentiating between real interest and attention-seeking.

It's not easy, and only comes with experience.

But I gotta lose BF. Got a muscle dad bod. I'm working on it.

Good. Anything that increases your odds will help. It's all a numbers game, and the better you make your odds, the more often you'll get what you want (sex).

Dude from high integrity skills chanel says something about idk 10_30k approaches. Over like 10 years.