Hey y'all, here's what's going on. A few days ago met this lady at a bar during a weekend festival. We exchanged numbers and, because she didn't seem interested through phone communication, I deleted hers only for her to hit me back, apologizing for the delay and letting me know she was actually an active participant in said festival, thus making sense to me why she was so interested in person yet sporadic via text. We were supposed to meet 2 days ago but she rescheduled to yesterday only for me to state that time wasn't good. I called yesterday to follow up, expecting her to make up some BS, thus allowing me to terminate further communication. On the phone, however, instead of the initial date she suggests a new 1st date: the "No Kings" protest against ICE in Chicago this weekend. We've never discussed political views (she's obviously far left while I'm moderate) so, I can conclude that her dating fellow far left liberals is important & this is her way of sniffing out the weaker wristed men she (thinks) she desires. I played it cool and said "it's possible" to which she replied stating she'd send the details. This was in the afternoon and she didn't, nor did I remind her. I didn't because I know that if I attend I might either get into a debate (or altercation because these type lack common sense and control) with a protester or get drawn into a conversation with her at some point where my true colors will be revealed. My question is this: if I decide to go and none of these events occur, from experience how long do you think this thing between us last? She grew up in a small, conservative town before moving to Chicago and is a small time actress and model (actual one, not Instagram) so it is safe to say she's so far left she's almost a foul ball. Have any of you moderates or conservatives ever had a relationship with these type past 2 months? Or is it not worth it in your opinion? I specifically ask regarding her because it's clear that she just isn't content with having her own views and me having mine. She even went as far as changing the date venue from her favorite Ramen spot to a protest in semi cold Chicago weather. I don't want to have a LTR with her and especially not kids, just a good time for as long as I can until my time is up. I have no problem deleting her # & moving on based on your advice, this would be my 2nd time deleting. I just don't have time dealing with openly mentally unwell people. Long gone is the time when they'd let you be with your own views, nowadays far left liberals are offended by the differing thoughts in others heads.
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SeasonedRP 2 21h ago
A "No Kings" protest against ICE is hardly a suitable choice for a first date. Her interest in fitting in with the cool kids outweighs any attraction she has to you. I don't see any benefit to you in going to this. Even if this particular event went off without a hitch, she'll eventually argue with you and cause problems. Girls like her aren't dateable.
mattyanon Admin 19h ago
Never call it a first date. Call it a date. Or a second date.
"1st date" works against you: women don't want sex on a first date, and it implies a second date at her option.
Lots of assumptions there, and it's much better to just avoid the whole subject.
Yeah, this is a fucking terrible idea. You're hiding/compromising who you are at this point. You are turning up to a protest that you don't agree with, so what does it look like when you tell her you don't believe in it?
It's one thing to not participate,, it's another to turn up to something you disagree with just to please her. Neither side respects a traitor.
Look, it's easy. Tell her who the fuck you are and let the cards fall where they may.
This isn't a random hookup, you're talking about meeting and dating this woman.
This is fucking terrible. A protest isn't really a great first date idea. I'm fairly sure she isn't looking for a date at this point.
But you are dating her. You are entertaining the idea of going on dates with her, ones that you don't even agree with.
Well, look. You want an easy lay, but you're proceeding as if you're going to be dating her while pretending to agree with her.
At this point she's either an easy lay or she isn't. If she isn't, then you don't want anything more to do with her crazy leftist shit.
So proceed as if she's an easy lay.
Invite her out to a fucking bar already.
Even better, tell her straight that your political views differ and that you are too dangerous for her.
First-light 2 18h ago
She sounds insufferable. Activism is her game and you need to fit in. However you want to bang her and you are not sure if she is worth the effort.
What we don't yet know is if she puts out easily enough to be worth the effort of biting your tongue and spending time in her company and the company of other assorted liberal children.
How far do you have to travel to go to this shit fest? Can you agree shared accommodation from the get go? That might set things up logistically to bang but if you are in separate accommodation, it will be hard and if you are together sleeping on the floor in some hippie den, it will not be conducive unless the hippies are really having a good blow out. I have found that when women are down to bang, they really don't have a problem with getting shared accommodation even if you have not discussed sex at all. They have no fear it might not be appropriate because they can see themselves under you -there is no potential shame in her mind. If she wants to, she can always still say no, so what has she to lose?
The liberals of my generation put out easily. It went with being "liberated" and "emancipated". The last remnants of that culture can still mean they put out easily but the current culture of anxiety and inner weakness can also mean that they can't put out until all their anxieties about life and the badness of men are either calmed by a lot of Beta behaviour or overcome by a strong dose of serious Chadness. If you are something in the middle of that in her mind, it is very hard to get anywhere quickly. In such a case the eventual drops of juice are not going to be worth the considerable squeeze.
I don't see why you can't test the waters, go in full bore aiming to bang ASAP -not "Its possible" but "Sure, I would love to see you" Don't hang back looking cool about it. She is presumably hot if she is an "actress and model" and she is also clearly busy with the culture of liberal shit. Men will be anywhere she wants then and she will pick them up if convenient. Make it easy because that is what she is used to and you have not got the time or energy to try to teach her anything new. You just want to dump a few loads in her in a way that pleases you both. Be prepared to do the yards to make this happen (because she will expect that as she is hot and privileged) but make it clear its because you want to bang. If she is reluctant after meeting in person a couple of times, bail unless you are very very sure that her reluctance was because of circumstance not preference.
She cannot be worth investing in long term, so don't make effort beyond good communication and setting up good logistics. They do tend to get quite heated up at these protests. Presumably that makes them more down to bang?
throwaway415 1 17h ago
red flag. next
pofkaf 1 17h ago
Don't go to the protest. Regardless of whether or not it aligns with your political opinions.
A protest is a terrible place to escalate the sexual tension. Most of the time you'll just be walking in a large group of people, yelling random shit.
Plus she'll most likely spot some people she knows and want to hang with them during the whole shindig.
Just don't go to the protest. Schedule an actual date, and if she asks why, just say like "I want to get to know you personally, and I think this is a better way to do that."
Durek_The_Bald 16h ago
When you have so many reservations against a girl, but you still go back and forth in your mind whether you should or should not, there's only one reason for that; scarcity.
Redpillpusher 3h ago
It's very scarce for me now, due to my horrible schedule. I made the OP around 4 am because that was one of the few times I was free this week. I'm currently doing surgery rotations until January & because of the demanding schedule, when free I'm usually sleeping & would like to have had one on reserve for the coming winter. But I took many of the guys advice and just stopped pursuit. It wouldn't have gone far & she's just all around weird.
Vermillion-Rx Admin 12h ago
Please use paragraph breaks
No one wants to see a wall of text
Vermillion-Rx Admin 12h ago
"no kings" protest as a date
Are you fucking serious. Next her
Why is this even a question