Over the past year I've met a handful of girls with extreme high interest. Yet they lie about having male friends, why is this? And this means these women should never be trusted for a relationship right?
When I say high interest, these are the type of things that the handful of women did. Travel an hour 3x a week to see me, cook and clean, care for me when I was sick, did most things I asked of them. Yet the ONLY thing these women all had trouble doing, was cutting all male friends.
For example this one girl I knew for a month, wanted to see me everyday of the week. Fucks, cooks and cleans. Then she pushes for a relationship. And I said only if she hasn't been talking to any other guys. And she said no she doesn't have guy friends.
I went through her phone to find out that she has guy friends and has been talking to other men. I'm just so confused as to the extreme high interest yet still keeping their options open. Her excuse was "these guys have girlfriends". Which I won't accept as an excuse. So why do girls push for relationship, show extremely high interest, yet do stupid shit like this?
This happen multiple times for other girls.
I have side chicks, earn good money, currently traveling the world, and physically fit and we'll kept.
Typo-MAGAshiv Endorsed Contributor 1d ago
They do it because they want to keep their options open, and sometimes a bit out of loyalty to old friends.
If this boundary is that important to you, just be ready to keep breaking things off when they lie to you in violating it.
Newbie-Casanova 1d ago
so far it has been a 100% cut off rate. This is so frustrating because i added 40+ new lays this year and less than 10 were viable relationship girls, looks and personality wise. And out of that, only 5 were extreme unyielding high interest. Yet they pull some stupid shit like that. Man this is getting impossible to find a ltr.
Would you do the same?
throwaway415 1 20h ago
why so focused on finding an ltr? women worth having an ltr with are incredibly rare. its like spending your whole life digging random holes around your local park because of the 0.001% chance of finding gold. just fuck em and toss em back in the water
if you find a good one worth having an ltr with then more power to you, but dont get so focused on it that it causes you frustration. if i happen to stumble across a nugget of gold, ill definitely be stoked, but I don't get upset that I havent found one. im not wasting my time digging holes looking for gold. its statistically highly unlikely, why get worked up about it?
Hugo_The_Great 13h ago
Right, I think this is the proper unattached mindset. Just enjoy digging holes, don't expect anything.
And when you find something valuable, enjoy that as well but don't expect too much from it and don't try holding onto it too tight.
Focus on improving oneself and having fun first, other good things might come your way because they are drawn to that.
Newbie-Casanova 20h ago
I am the most content and happy when I'm building something longterm, like a game save. I'm in my mid 20s and almost near 100 lays. I feel like I'm getting old and want to start a family soon so I can also focus on business Instead of chasing girls. Because I feel like casual dating is meaningless. And at this point I'm just fucking as many until I run into ltr types.
Initially I came here to south America to find a ltr but it's not as easy as I thought it would be. So I'm kinda disappointed . Like at this point I'm thinking of going to a Muslim country and get a religious girl
throwaway415 1 19h ago
well you dont sound very happy when you say things like "its getting impossible to find an ltr"
and that's an accurate observation. it is getting impossible.
plenty of us want what you want. a lot of us want to be with a girl who will stick by our side and build with, raise a family, etc. the thing is, is it healthy or realistic to focus so much on something that is so unlikely to happen?
mid 20s isnt old. im at least a decade older than you and I still havent gotten married or had kids, and it doesnt bother me. I could wait another 10 or 20 years and ill still be fine. its women who are getting old, not us. they have a short time limit for fertility. we dont. I can afford to take my time.
you should focus on business instead of chasing girls, and that includes chasing this fantasy of an ltr and raising a family with a "good woman".
if it happens it happens, but you should not be letting this shit live in your head rent free. go out and fuck girls whenever it is convenient for you, and if you get lucky, maybe one of them will fulfill that fantasy for you. dont get hung up about it if it doesnt happen. it won't happen for 99% of men. thats just reality and you have to learn to accept it.
if you are really so adamant about it you want to drop everything and convert to a religion and move to an entirely different country for it, then by all means, do it. but first ask yourself if you truly want to give up the life you have now just for the prospect of a marriage and family. if I was in your shoes, I wouldn't do it.
im perfectly happy staying single. I've learned to accept and love my life the way it is
Vermillion-Rx Admin 21h ago
Like @Typo-MAGAshiv said a lot of them keep their options open
But i think what most of them mean or think is that they genuinely believe men and women can be friends, because women are so used to friend zoning dudes who want to fuck
The problem they don't realize is dudes want to fuck and by keeping chodes in the friendzone and keeping in touch they are back up options
I don't think every woman that claim to not talk to men is being malicious. I think a lot of their hamster brains genuinely cannot detect that any of these fags could be shoulder to cry to dick to ride pipeline at any moment one of these chucklefucks gets lucky after Chad pumps and dumps and he just happens to be texting her in proximity to her misfortunes
There are some guys who are not problematic male friends. Some times a woman and her family has known a guy from childhood and they have more of a sibling bond. Evolutionarily, growing up with someone tags them as a sibling in your brain if very young when you connect
I don't think being a complete hard ass without context is healthy as a guy. If she has a friend or two from very early childhood, especially who she has no history with and is a relationship, i don't think you need to worry.
If she has more recent male friends and actually hangs out with them or there is even any kind of attempt on his part to get with her then yes it's dumb of her.
Was there context to any of these men because not every woman with a man in her phone is going to fuck him.
Context matters. There are women who will never fuck me for various reasons no matter how comfortable we are together and I'm fairly high SMV and have tight game. And i know for a fact these women will never fuck me for one reason or another
Not every girl is going to fuck every guy
throwaway415 1 20h ago
hypergamy is female nature. theres no escaping it. you might be her best option now, but you won't necessarily be her best option later. in fact, statistically speaking, its only a matter of time before she moves on to her next best option. women are temporary. gftow and stop caring
cundardunfinished 14h ago
Assuming these women are in developing countries by what you're describing. Hypergamy is real everywhere, but it's life or death some places. Maybe not that dramatic but these women know they have a 5 year window to afford themselves a better life for them and their extended family and will do whatever it takes to get it.
You shouldn't be playing detective anyway, just assume all women do this. LTR is hard mode because you have to maintain her loyalty by keeping your SMV high and managing the relationship well, trying to tell her to be loyal doesn't do anything (asking her not to have guy friends is about the same as saying please don't cheat on me, not an effective strategy).
I would advise you not to LTR any woman outside of your home country as it is ultra extra hard mode. I won't get into all the pitfalls but it is basically a bad idea for any man, and especially someone who is a "newbie cassanova"
Hugo_The_Great 13h ago
Idk why you care about their guy friends tbh.
Every guy who hangs out 1-on-1 with a girl he is not fucking is either gay or superduper beta and an emotional tampon. Not competition in any way shape or form.
What is more common is that she participates in large social circles with guys who have high SMV. I would only worry about this in the context that it's a social circle with a lot of single men & women.
Texting with other men is a pretty big red flag though, yup. And it would also be a dealbreaker to me if she is pushing for something serious while hedging her bets. I mean I get why they do it, we essentially do the same spinning plates (abundance) but if she wants me to make a significant investment in her and a relationship together I don't want a chick unless she's fully invested in me.