Hi guys, here is how my first date since my 5 year hiatus went. No lay yet, but the FR will definitely come when it does, whether this girl or another. Before I begin, I'd like to point out the importance of flexibility, specially if we are not at the top of our game.
Start: I've been using dating apps for months, because I don't go out much right now, so I wrote to this (and like a bazillion others) girl (32yo) about 3 weeks ago. After a brief exchange I left a "give me your whatsapp so we can chat better there" message and she took 2 weeks to reply (later found out she barely uses the app), I didn't make much of it because these d.apps girls like to ghost like nothing I've ever seen. So I started chatting her up, lives quite far from here (big no for me), then she tells me she has one daughter (big no for me), so I saw no reason to keep talking to her. But then my abundance mentality kicked in, and i figured fuck it, there's many girls around who fit what I'm looking for (single, between 21 and 27,no kids) but they're not showing up for me, something ain't working. So i keep showing interest and tell her I'll invite her out one of these days.
Fast forward to these last 2 weeks, she agreed to go out, and of course I had to pay her ride because girls here just don't move around themselves (actually had to make it clear it was on me,venezuelan girls are very selective out of self interest). So date day comes, we had a videocall the night before, very flirty and clearly horny but was with a young cousin so she couldn't talk too hot, she tells me now that she has 4 (FOUR!) kids but IDGAF anymore about my standards i just wanna fuck some beauty and get it over with, not looking for a girifriend here,it has been so long since my last date/sex I just don't care much at this point. Plus she ended up being a 7/10 anyways,her face a 5 though. So yesterday, she phones me after work, gets ready and I call her uber, she told me he was hitting on her on the way and i joke about it. I get there first, wait for her and we meet.
Her face brightens up as she sees me and blood starts filling my cock as I see her as well,rockin' body for a 32yo mother of 4,super thin and feminine. She is shy,can't look me in the eyes for more than 2 seconds cause her fuck-me eyes look is too obvious, was hot despite being in AC, we kiss on the cheek and hug closely when we meet, and I find out right away she is just a hot tart, probably wet as fuck already, and while we walk she stumbles on her own words and her hands comes close to mine as we walk as if fishing for mine. Side note: I felt something in my dick during the date and my underwear confirmed I was so ready to fuck her in front of everyone that I was dripping pre-cum, that's a first heh
After we walk and chat a bit we go outside where there is a nice view of the large lake where some people just sit down and relax. Since she is doing no talking at all, but looks at my face with a shy horny smile, I lead the convo, I get close and we share a nice short kiss to break the ice. She starts talking more but in all date she doesn't talk much if I wasn't doing the talking, fine by me. We go in, have an ice cream cone, her looking at me flirty while licking the icecream, like she doesn't know what she's doing, and we go out again as it gets darker to see the sunset. We talk, get closer and she holds my shoulders and my back, initiates kissing and touching, her legs sometimes feel my dick and I come closer so she can knows I know whats up. We spend about an hour just holding each other, kissing with and without tongue and just playing around, i hold her neck a bit here and there and pull her hair cause I told her I'm rough and i wanted her to see that Its a part of me, great feedback on that cause she ends up leaning towards being submissive enough to enjoy it and her body feels super hot.
Date ends, kiss kiss,bye bye and starts texting me thanking me for a great time and for me being so cute to her, she texts me some more but I was dismissive because I can't let her take too much of my time out of dates.These girls are always shit-testing in some form. We had a videocall a few minutes ago because she wanted to say hi, and If she gets too clingy with that of course I have to make an excuse to not have the call or outright tell her that I need some time and I enjoy missing each other a bit.
My takeaways are that:
-I had to calibrate my game to a more realistic approach where if I know all girls here are broke and/or lazy then a man has got to do all the date logistics, even her part like transportation. This is a fairly traditional/conservative country I live in and men have to do it all, no point resisting this stuff, I tried and doesn't work. -Cast a larger net: My standards are fine, but If i'm not getting results then I gotta involve more people in my search like the occasional bangable chubby or single moms, maybe even a milf that is at most a 72% batshit person.
I am still not getting laid though it's just one hot date, there's some attractive green flags with this girl so we'll see.
Thanks for reading, always great to share this stuff here and just keep it constructive, It's been 5 years and I think the date and the attraction building was great. Hopefully will be writing a FR soon on banging her or anything with a hole. She wants to call me everyday, and hasn't been on a date in 3 years, already talked with her about "doing something more" and she said "Yes,if it happens i would"...
Any words fellas?
ExConvictNowMillionaire 10h ago
"venezuelan girls are very selective out of self interest"
Always interesting to read as a European - since my experience is so different in LATAM/South American countries. I'd do a Tinder boost before going for dinner & upon return 1.5 hours later I'd have 30+ likes and a guaranteed date 1-2 hours later. Life on easy mode. While my experience in Europe is 1:1 that of yours in Venezuela
"I am still not getting laid though it's just one hot date, there's some attractive green flags with this girl so we'll see."
Goodluck. But the fact you're looking for green flags tells me you're investing & vulnerable for the oneitis. Don't fall for the trap
MrSupreme 6h ago
I don't even have to go too far,i used to live nearby in Panama and the girls,which were from all over LatAm, we're very enthusiastic,warm,fun and welcoming towards me. Some people just have it harder at home I guess.
well its just some nice things i noticed like not talking about her kids or her exes.I keep getting that from guys here and I am very aware about not being vulnerable, something I have to watch out for after growing a second virginity I guess hehe
I do go ahead and game other women anyways
Lone_Ranger 3 1d ago
4 kids? you are being set up. Paying for her ride is what cock blocked you.
Paying for anthing is a strong signal that she sees you as beta bux.
Those 4 dudes that nutted in her with no condom sure as hell didn't pay for anything.
MrSupreme 1d ago
of course I'm aware of being set up, I'm definitely gonna find out soon,like this week, about her true intentions. It was just one date, I'm not balls deep into anything yet, ima try and get mine doing it my own way. I'm sure more than 4 guys have nutted there, only 4 impregnated her.
mattyanon Admin 1d ago
Beware of her demanding commitment before sex.
You are investing. She isn't.
That means the power is shifting to her side (she can walk away easily because she is "profiting", you can't because you are investing).
This means it's emotionally easy for her to make further demands (because she can't lose and she knows you are invested).
The standard female playbook here is hot date where you pay, then a slightly less hot date where you pay, then demands of commitment before sex.
I mean..... best of luck to you..... maybe she just wants hot sex..... you'll find out soon.
MrSupreme 1d ago
I'll definitely find out soon, I have noticed the need to do boyfriend stuff already like being available for videocalls at any time.
Edit: I know trp is amoral, does it make me a bad person if i can make her believe I am somehow commited just to fuck her? I feel like I'm fooling her a bit lf i tell her that i care, for example
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No-Stress-Cat 1d ago
Just tell her straight out. "Next time I see you, I'm going to ravish you like a wild animal, so don't bother to wear any panties. RAWR!" After that, if she doesn't put out, then you get out. She's got 4 kids, and no time to play games. Either you're in, or you're not. Two dates is plenty of time for a single mom of 4 kids to decide if she wants to fuck you.
MrSupreme 1d ago
In person may be a good idea than a text or voice note. But yeah, she still needs to feel desired after all. I think she could be DTF already but the weekend is in some more days,not there yet.
First-light 1 1d ago
One expects that if you remain enthusiastic enough you can close this one out.
But don't catch any feelings. You can't be helping her raise other men's children in return for whatever is left of her time and effort after 4 kids. After a 5 year pause when your cock starts dribbling at some cuddling, your heart might be more vulnerable than you realise if she falls for you. You do need to maintain focus. You can spend some mutual good times with her but you can't invest in a future with her without it costing you more than it is probably worth.
MrSupreme 1d ago
Indeed, I know 5 lonely years is not a strength,nothing to flex there. I still don't feel prone to catching feels because I don't have much of a soul left to see women that way anymore.When she asked me why i have no gf, i told her its because i don't fall in love easily, and she seems like just the same type of person, she may be horny as hell but won't fall for anyone, its what she's showing me.
Yes, i gotta remain focused and not fall for her feelings traps and shit tests. It was one date anyways, we'll see we'll see.