I'm traveling/living abroad and pulled my hottest girl yet 2 months ago. I see her every 1-2 weeks, we fuck every time. This 22yo girl has more red flags than a Chinese military parade so I know I shouldn't try to LTR her:
- Only likes rough sex, doesn't like to cuddle
- Does erotic/tied up photos
- Has a tongue piercing and a small tattoo on her chest
- Openly talks about sleeping with other guys, agreed when I said she's going through a slut phase
- Says she has "sex tapes"
- Told me a dude she was staying with in a foreign country (who cheated on his fiancée with her) is coming to visit her in a few months
- met up with a wealthy dude who paid for a trip but didn't fuck him because he was beta
I'm also pretty sure she has assburgers and there's worse shit she hasn't told me yet.
My question is how to make her obsessed with me because I want to keep this going as long as possible. She barely texts and responds slow, says she's busy for most days, but always shows up.
I only text for logistics. Usually, we meet for drinks and then go back to my place and she spends the night. Last time I took her on a trip out of town for the weekend.
I'm still meeting other girls regularly. Am I right in thinking the only answer here is to keep doing what you're doing, fuck her good, and find other girls to get her off my mind?
She's not mine it's just my turn type of shit? Any other advice? Maybe I'm catching oneitis here.
AbusiveFather1 3d ago
Well yes, if you’re already looking for ways to keep her (for as long as possible).
Of course
The best thing you can do is keep fucking her really, really well and don’t - under any circumstances - show her that you’re catching feelings or see her as more than a hole (she’ll destroy you for that).
Keep mixing it up in bed every time, never let it go stale. She likes it rough but she’ll get bored of that too one day so be prepared to accommodate and show her that you can be gentle as well - but only when she feels like it.
My prognosis is she’ll stop responding to you soon and she’ll come back in a few months or more because she either misses the sex or she’s out of the hoe phase, ran out of options, and wants to see if she can betatize you into an LTR.
AbusiveFather1 3d ago
Oh and make sure you’re using protection every time and get checked, because she’s literally a fucking whore bro
mattyanon Admin 3d ago
You are obsessed with her.
You need to find more/other options my dude.
You are TRYING TO MAKE IT WORK........ in some way, some how..... you are TRYING TO MAKE IT WORK.
This is fucking nuts.
Lone_Ranger 3 2d ago
he clearly has a whore fetish. captain save a hoe.
hoes cannot be saved.
AbusiveFather1 2d ago
Not necessarily the case
This is the cause: because she’s the hottest girl OP pulled, the male hamster is making him overlook the soviet parade of red flags and like matty said try to make it work
MrSupreme 3d ago
Are you into what she likes? Offer new hardcore ways to fuck her, or do your thing until she gets bored. Use it as an opportunity to experiment with these things because some people like that, and you might like it too.
You're kind of attached to her already (oneitis) by wanting her to fall for you, you're looking for some sort of deeper emotions cause she ain't showing interest in more than sex. See other women, get over her beauty too, since she's your hottest girl.
A good thing you're doing is not judging her sluttiness, she actually told you about it and you listened, didn't judge and continued like nothing
thespectator 2d ago
That's a great idea. I've wanted to try anal and outdoor/semi-public sex so maybe she's the perfect candidate. I guess I would try to casually bring it up in conversation and see what she says.
I haven't judged her at all which is why she's progressively telling me more deranged shit about her life.
AbusiveFather1 2d ago
Good for you homie; that’s where I usually fuck up and start judging, so they hide shit from me and now I have to Sherlock Holmes that shit
Typo-MAGAshiv Endorsed Contributor 3d ago
It's not a phase. It's who/what she is.
Even if she suddenly stops tomorrow and remains celibate for the next 50 years or so she has in life, she's a slut.
*Asperger's. Fuck...
Why the fuck would you want that? Especially from a trashy slut like her?
Then fuck her good and enjoy it while it lasts. Even the best women are flighty, and this one will likely be among the worst.
Probably fucking other dudes. Wear a rubber.
She likes your dick. Have fun as long as it lasts.
That's relationship shit. Has she earned such treatment? What has she done for you besides sex?
You need to read (or reread and actually fucking digest it this time) HumanSockPuppet’s Guide to Managing Your Bitches.
This is on the sidebar, and is essential reading.
Just as essential, and especially relevant to your situation, is what I regard as one of the most important Red Pill posts ever: Roissy's/Heartiste's Be A Skittles Man.
Yes, yes, wear a rubber, and yes.
superhitops 3d ago
This guide to managing plates has a fundamental flaw in my opinion. It has lots of good stuff. But in the end, one need to filter this thing out.
It assumes that a man's behavior or actions can control a woman. This is a blue pill concept, that "man can improve woman". Man can't. Never could. Never will.
OOP is asking exactly that, in a different form.
No process in nature, including man's behavior or action, will change woman nature. Even rich, powerful and famous man are known to eventually be screwed by a woman while at the same time having thousands of others available. The guide then gives the idea that doing that lead to full controllable outcome.
Typo-MAGAshiv Endorsed Contributor 3d ago
Agreed, which is why it's important for the Red Pilled man to practice discernment in his reading.
No one bats a thousand, not HSP, not me, not even Rollo or Roissy/Heartiste.
Now, you can do the conditioned response thing: rewarding good behavior and punishing bad behavior. This can help. HSP wrote on this a bit, and the MRP sub greatly improved and expanded on that over the years, but ultimately, women are human beings who will make their own decisions for their own reasons (however frivolous and retarded).
superhitops 3d ago
Yeah, the hamster. The very definition of why it is a hamster. And even hamsters can be classified between dumb hamster and smart hamster.
No-Stress-Cat 2d ago
I'm pretty sure he meant assburgers, and if he didn't, she probably has assburgers anyway.
Typo-MAGAshiv Endorsed Contributor 2d ago
you have assburgers!
No-Stress-Cat 1d ago
You want dickfries with them assburgers, sir?
thespectator 2d ago
Thanks for the advice. In that case I'm going back to simple fun meetups and back to my place. She hasn't done anything to earn it. She isn't relationship material and can't cook/clean/make my life better besides being a hot slut. She's definitely fucking other dudes.
I have read HSP's guide several times and I agree with the fundamentals, even if I think it's too strict. The Skittles man post is hilarious, good reminder to not fall into beta behavior (which I think I'm starting to with this girl).
Another thing that's kinda fucking with my head is that this girl is quite intelligent and I enjoy talking to her. She speaks 4 languages and is learning more (seems to be her obsessive interest, common in Asperger's). I know Russian and when I teach her words or talk about it she's very interested.
Typo-MAGAshiv Endorsed Contributor 2d ago
It's not meant to be followed exactly to the letter, but rather a loose guide.
I kind of fell ass-backwards into a similar structure with the chicks I was fucking back before I got married.
AbusiveFather1 2d ago
She’ll make a good escort (maybe she already is one)
Btw, she’s not a redhead by any chance? I had a similar situation with a girl just like that, she’s also traveling. We could be Eskimo brothers (well, you’re definitely Eskimo brothers with somebody)
thespectator 2d ago
Lmao. She's Japanese and actually just started working at a "girls bar" recently so you're not far off the mark. Girls bar is basically Japanese men paying money to be served drinks by attractive girls and talk to them. I could definitely see her ending up as an escort/sugarbaby in the near future.
AbusiveFather1 2d ago
Afaik that’s the natural progression for Japanese girls bar workers: work the regular shifts there and then sell her pussy the highest bidder there (as is the case for women in general)
But I mean that’s also the natural progression for regular female bar workers in the USA, strippers, hooters girls and even waitresses that get hit on by customers at restaurants and then just go with the best one
Musicgoon78 3 2d ago
Don't try to convert a hoe. It never works. Enjoy fucking her until your time is over or you're sick of her. I love slutty women. I do understand they aren't for long term.
Let me speak from experience: you've got to ignore this oneitis. If you do LTR her, her past will bite you in the ass and your going to have trust issues with her. It's not worth it. Just enjoy your turn. There's many a slutty girl out there.
Now you don't want a girl to be a slut, you want her to be your slut. Not for public use bro.
First-light 1 2d ago
I think its best not to think of managing her, so much as just enjoying her till it stops. Managing her is investing in her and not only is she not yours but in this case its not even your turn, its a free for all for anyone who meets the bar of tingle making. I prefer to think of how does one cope with rather than manage such a girl.
The biggest problem is the asymetry of the situation. All she has to do is say yes and men roll out experiences for her. The men by contrast are held by their thirst. They all want to make sure they get another drink. So they perform well. This unease on your part creates great ease on her part.
You can't compete with them all. You can never offer novelty as you are tried and tested. Everyone will offer some aspect of their character and abilities that is better than you. You only see the slice of her you get. You don't know what else is going on, what you may be competing with any given week.
If you invest by trying to offer an excellent experience and trying to keep her mind hooked in, you will always eventually fail and you will feel disappointment when you do. You will try harder as it is only natural. This will probably be off putting as it will come over as beta or clingy or something. Just be yourself and enjoy her.
Don't go too far for her. If she asks why when other do, then tell her the truth -you think she is awesome but she is not yours is she? This can create a bit of push pull, even though you are not trying to bother doing that.
It will end. Its a wind fall.
Lone_Ranger 3 2d ago
Good lord.
Are you desperate? Wtf. It really sounds like you are just desperate for sex, and that you have a slut fetish. Clearly this woman is already broken at the age of 22. She doesn't yet know it, but she is literally headed towards prostitution.
You really think she didn't have sex with the guy that paid for her trip? Please. Her pride is preventing her from saying that she is an actual prostitute.
Women don't just jump from being a normal girl to standing on the street corner, turning tricks for $20. There is a lead in... and this girl is on the slippery slope and we all know where it lands.
Get the fuck out of this shitty situationship. have some actual pride, some self worth.
Lone_Ranger 3 2d ago
you are obsessed with her.
There is no way you (or anyone else) can make her obsess over them.
She is obsessed with herself and being a whore. there is no soft landing for this woman, she belongs to the streets.
Honestly, what you are doing is the entire reason why men are having a hard time finding a good woman with whom to build a future.
You are wasting time simping for a whore. get real.