I finally in fact properly approached and extensively (if you can actually call it that, it wasn't factually a long-winded conversation but a decently lasting conversation) talked to a woman without knowing her through sibling or someone else, after a long time. I am actually making some amateur progress so far because... that's something, even though not a lot. I actually managed to pull through and made some actually decent progress in terms of making her even show her flash her body to me in an attention-seeking intention.

First and foremost, she is a girl from the gym. She is quite strong for a woman (she ain't muscular or a freak) and she is quite approachable unlike many women/girls of her age (she is 2 years younger than me). It seems that one creepily very-old socially awkward pervert virgin tried to approach her but she was actually in fact still immediately repulsed of his in fact really creepily repulsing socially-inept weirdness and literally threaten him with calling her father or the police so he got out of the way fast because he in fact most weirdly approached her.

That's where I got in and entered the game, I didn't force my approach and I actually wasn't weird about it but naturally in fact strategically approached her. First she initially talked to me today asking me if she can have a machine and exercise on the cable machines if I mind moving and I rationally repiied I would actually move anyway since a lot of people would take the same speace for bench press and other cable stuff and I don't mind (it's true, I was eventually moving to less dense area) and just did to not weirdly cram her still there and seem like a creep. Nonetheless, after that creepily old bald pervert weirdo virgin was in fact still brutally rejected by the girl I mention here, I strategically made my move - I went there gradually to ask her what kind of exercise she did and I was essentially having the last exercise of the biceps-and-back day so those were my final 3 sets of the day (I did 4 exercises of biceps (3 sets and 12 reps each set each) and 4 exercises of back (3 sets and 12 reps each set each)) and she told me it's an exercise for the upper back and it's very good. She began showing me her back and her behind at this timestamp. Prior to this day, we interacted only once and exchanged one setence each which was mainly kind-of self-depracating-humour on my part (not really self-deprecating, actually observational) and she replied the same way:

she was lifting very heavy weights with her hips

• Wow, I don't think I can lift this bar with those weights like that.
• Don't you think, I can barely lift it.

laughs

I was doing essentially "shoulder cable-machine pull-ups (not actual pullups on the bar)" and I was teaching her (in a good way, not strictly or like a weirdo) remembering what ATHLEAN-X was saying about that exercises being biomechanically awful for shoulder/back gains. I asked her name before that iirc and she confessed it to me and then after a while, after I done explaining why the shoulder pull-up exercise is "biomechanically not good" I gave her my name. I made her smile and laugh a few times in this interaction - I probably said something intentionally funny I don't remember right now. She realized I am the older brother of someone she went to school with and I replied that my brother is not much of an athletic person and he is not a gymgoer but he did play locally basketball as a teen in the past. By the way, we didn't uninterruptedly talk in one-go, we had pauses which aligned with our lifting. Then I shared her my workout for today in detail (4 exercises 3 sets x 12 each biceps, 4 exercises 3 sets x 12 each back) and she replied something like "Wow, that's too much/Wow, you go heavy on yourself/Wow that's a lot." and we continued talking about something else where she shown me in fact her body and back (in the facade of giving me advice). So it happened on 2-3 occasions but I still don't have good enough short-term memory plus I smoked something which doesn't make me recall why and how right now. I also cleared out to her I was a mechanic and I graduated Computer Engineering/Science and I am also in fact a musician/singer. She eventually said in the whole interaction she unversity-ly studied Ergonomics and her brother owns a popular local bar/nightclub here. (I am probably shit at remembering details of what others people confessed to me so as you can see I don't necessarily arrange them in chronological order.)

I also said some joking lines like "Oh, I am a bit of nerd myself.". She asked my music preferance and I replied "A little bit of everything." and she said "So do you listen to Greek music like entehno, laika and stuff like that" and I replied "No, I mainly listen to rap, rock and stuff like that. In the past I was also listening to death metal which made her kind of excited. Lastly I said "{Name}, what times/hours you're usually coming in the gym (here in the gym)?" and she replied she doesn't have a standard hour frame but she usually comes either in the morning or evening around the time she came today here. And I replied that I usually come around 17:30 to 19:00 or later and she repsonded that "We will see each other (frequently, I guess)". Then I said bye and I was on my way home.

That's basically our interaction, I wanted to get to know her and test her out. I was a bit awkward but still not enough to ruin the conversation or make her disinterested, I think. What advice do the high-ranking veteran redpillers have on me so far? Do you think I did anything wrong? Maybe I am not the suitable dude to talk a lot and literally overanalyze details and recall every bit of accurate infromation but I had to and I had to talk a lot.

(EDIT: Oh, also we conversed about where we hang out and I highlighted that I usually go to my cousin's taproom - pub in the next city and I don't like the place/wretched-ass town here and she actually concurred she doesn't like the place here as well.)