I’m 27, male AND a virgin - so I’m not getting younger. How did this happen? That’s for me to know and for everyone else not to.
For literally FOUR YEARS I’ve been trying to date the normal way. I never made it to the bedroom even once because even at 23, women bailed when they learnt I was still a virgin. My reputation spread across town and now I’m basically known as “the loser virgin guy who tries his luck with all the women.” Needless to say, I’ve been mocked every week for these four years. There’s no coming back from that here, so I’m forced to move.
I’d rather not have another four years like this in my new state. So I’m thinking of hiring escorts in some place where it is legal. How can I do it safely without worrying too much about diseases? I’m mostly worried about hepatitis and all the ones that can bypass condoms.
I’ve had some CUTE women into me until they learned I was a virgin, so I know now I have to take extreme measures. I’m not dead yet, so I still have time to start a family and all that. I’m just taking a shortcut to get up to speed. I ask again, HOW TO AVOID STD’S?
Typo-MAGAshiv Endorsed Contributor 4d ago
Late to the party on this one. Oh well.
I'm going to echo/paraphrase a few things others have already said:
paying hookers to fuck will likely do more harm than good to your mental state
You aren't looking to get married or anything foolish like that, are you?
kv2_0833 1w ago
why do they know you're a virgin? kissless? start there "four years trying to date the normal way", what does that even mean "I've been mocked every week for these four years", who tf is mocking you? I promise you you're not that important
read sidebar but this has to be a troll post lmao
Guarod 1w ago
I can’t really prove I’m not a troll unless I reveal my identity.
But I get mocked on and offline. Mostly by coworkers who learned of my situation because I started by dating a coworker. She learned I was a virgin because I was stupid enough to tell her. She told EVERYONE. So, she’s a bitch and. I dodged a missile but still…
I tried online but that doesn’t work for men without a crazy life. I work, gym, go home.
I also try bars but I’ve gotten not much luck there either.
Musicgoon78 2 1w ago
Jesus man, don't ever tell anyone off of this forum that you're a virgin. It's none of their business.
If you're going to use escorts, use a condom. That's it.
Now this is an expensive way to get laid. You won't learn anything at all, you won't feel accomplished, but you will get to have sex with a woman.
After you move. Go after women, just keep your mouth shut about being a virgin and you'll be fine.
throwaway415 1w ago
don't use escorts. paying for sex is omegacringe
Musicgoon78 2 1w ago
I don't think using escorts is going to change anything for OP. It's his decision if that's what he wants.
No-Stress-Cat 1w ago
I disagree. All women are whores, it's just that the currency and length of contract varies. At least with a prostitute, it's a one-time transaction, and you know what you're getting for your money. It's also a good way to get over the fear and mystery of what it's like to sink yourself into a wet hole.
Guarod 1w ago
Just afraid I’m gonna suck so bad at sex the woman will ditch me forever. Then I’ll have tens or hundreds of women follow suit because of how far behind I am.
No man wants to be an accidental Hugh Hefner lol.
Musicgoon78 2 1w ago
That's super negative and assumptive. Stop doing that. First of you're completely wrong. Second that bullshit. Third, if you you keep talking like that you'll become a loser.
You're not a victim. Don't act like one or seek it out like these other idiots on the internet.
Vermillion-Rx Admin 1w ago
Being bad at sex is the least of your problems if you can't even vibe with a woman you are fucked
Well actually you're not fucked if you don't have women, because you won't be fucking
First-light 1w ago
Its not a crazy idea to use whores to get a bit of experience. The biggest thing they can do for you is to stop you being nervous about the mechanics of things or pedestalising women too much. Once you can say "All cats are pretty much alike in the dark", you can just get on with talking to them like they are just ordinary people not goddesses and escalating things confidently when appropriate.
All sex carries the risk of STDs but you can keep it pretty safe. Your safest best is a legal whore house where they are supposed to always use condoms and are regularly tested but many of them advertise on their own web sites and you can read there if they have a condoms only policy. Find out when they start business and be the first customer of the day, so that at least they have probably had a wash first. Pee straight afterwards, wash as soon as you can. Don't go at all if your knob or the area around it is sore or injured. It is breaks in your skin that are most likely to get you infected. Don't perform oral sex on whores or kiss any part of them.
Hepatitis is the one to worry about more than HIV these days. It is more contagious too. Breaks in the skin are the risk.
But seriously look around you. Lots of people having plenty of sex and not dead from STDs yet. its a low risk.
Musicgoon78 2 1w ago
Hepatitis is now curable so that is a plus.
Lone_Ranger 3 1w ago
my advice is don't go to escorts. Here's why:
You will learn nothing. You will only degrade your own self worth and self image.
Imagine having to PAY a woman to have sex with you. I can't think of anything more damaging to a man's self worth.
Paying a woman to allow you to have sex with her to try and gain confidence or learn something is like paying a guy to talk to you so that you can expereince what it is like to have a friend.
snap out of it.
Step one - don't reveal that you are a virgin. you can tell us, because we're on your side. but do not reveal that shit to any woman, because she will immediately assume you are a incel. just stop it. keep that shit private.
First-light 1w ago
I think it would be very damaging to pay a woman do things with you that replace real affection just as it would be damaging to pay a man to be your friend but you can pay for sexual training if you see it as training not as anything else.
Your dad could teach you to drive or you could pay an instructor or do a bit of both. You are not paying a driving instructor to be your dad, you are paying him to teach you to drive and when you have passed the test, your will not be back for his company again. Likewise you could learn to have sex with a girlfriend but if none is available you could pay a whore for lessons -so you are confident you know what to do- but you should not pay her to be your girl or to be your friend or to make you feel sufficient for the ways in which you fall short. There is certainly a danger of these things in a virgin approaching a whore and a man should be aware of this but there is also a benefit in lessons as they overcome fear of incompetence that can make a man far from confident when women want him to be confident..
Lone_Ranger 3 6d ago
you are not going to get any 'sexual training' from a whore.
You will get a woman that allows you to stick your dick in for cash. At best, she might be ok at 'faking' that she wants it. trust me, she doesn't want it. no whore could ever have even the slightest amount of respect for a guy that has to pay for access to a vag.
The only people with lower self respect than whores are johns.
throwaway415 1w ago
IMHO, paying women for sex is one of the absolute biggest Ls you can take as a man, and is capital S, weapons-grade simping.
Where I'm from, you'd be the laughingstock of the entire community if people knew you did this.
Don't simp. Don't ever pay a penny for pussy. If anything, women should be paying you. You are thinking completely wrong here.
Lone_Ranger 3 6d ago
100% agree.
it's really not that hard to pick up mids and fuck them.
OP is thinking about life all wrong. he is absolutely pedaslising women - because going to whores is only step 1 on his planned journey - he has this dream that he can get 'better at sex' by going to whores. presumably so that he can 'give more pleasuer' to some as yet unknown woman in the future.
he is still not thinking of himself. of what a man's mission should be. what his own mission should be. he is still centering women in his life.
when a whore takes money from a man, she is literally enslaving him. she is taking resources of value (money) and exchanging it for something of zero value (her worn out pussy).
think about it.
mattyanon Admin 1w ago
well don't fucking tell them.
move. don't tell anyone.
There is no safe way here. Risks are relatively high.
DONT FUCKING TELL THEM.
Jesus.
Ok, seeing an escort might help relax you about the virgin thing.... but it will not help with the meeting and dating aspect because it bypasses that part.