I went on a four dates with a girl and yesterday on the fifth took her to my place. I put on some music and sat next to her, but when I went in for the kiss she pulled away. I tried escalating 2 more times but she said she just wanted to talk. I was completely pissed and she left soon after. When I got home I sent her a text trying to keep things alive for the future saying I had a good time. She responded with a long text saying that I was rushing, didn't care about her feelings, etc. I told her that I did care about her (lie) but just couldn't help myself. We agreed to talk tomorrow, which is today. What did I do wrong? I might have escalated too quickly on the night and not built enough comfort. Do you think that this situation is salvageable? I think that it's salvageable but it will take me a lot of time to earn back her trust and get the lay.
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Jackmoter 9mo ago
If a women is not interested in you sexually, it is clear as the day from Date 1.
If you cannot see this, you are blinded by your own desperation and horniness. Bonk.
It is not salvageable, and why the fuck would you want to see her again? You need to get more experience interacting with women who are attracted to you. Step 1: be attractive, inside and out.
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mattyanon Admin 9mo ago
5 is pretty slow, I hope you weren't paying.
5 dates with no kiss is VERY slow.
Kissing is second date AT THE LATEST.
This girl does not find you attractive.
why?
Rightttttttttttt.
Ok, this is beta bait. "Kissing on 5th date = rushing" means she DOES NOT WANT YOU. Sorry. It sucks. But it's true and it's best you understand the lies.
No attraction.
If you're paying for dates then you are motivating her to lie to you.
You simply need to filter out women who are not into you. You kiss them. If they're not into it then you NEXT them. It isn't about doing things right or wrong..... if she's not into you then it's not viable to be with her.
Ah, no.
LMR is when you're trying to fuck her. This is not kissing you AFTER FIVE DATES.
Yes. You salvage this by fucking OTHER WOMEN who actually want you.
Get the lay??? Dude, she doesn't even want to kiss you.
No-Stress-Cat 9mo ago
Five dates? If it doesn't happen after 2, not gonna happen. NEXT.
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First-light 2 9mo ago
As everyone says its highly likely that she is just not that into you so next. There is a small chance is there is a genuine mental/ psychological/ medical issue holding her back but if so, do you want to be dealing with that? What is the chance that you have the magic key that can turn an intimacy avoiding mental case into a warm desirous woman, when no one else could? so next is still the answer.
Vermillion-Rx Admin 9mo ago
Per the AskTRP rules try to answer your own question somewhere in the post
Typo-MAGAshiv Endorsed Contributor 9mo ago
If she were attracted to you, she'd have fucked you by now. Don't waste anymore of your time or effort on her. Ignore whatever mouth noises she makes; her actions say as clearly as she can that she isn't attracted to you.
From first year Rational Male, which is part of the sidebar: Wait For It?.
You didn't escalate quickly enough. A woman who wants you will fuck you on the first encounter
Comfort is only to be given when it's earned. As in, she's been fucking you for several weeks or months and adds value to your life besides sex.
Giving comfort too soon, especially when it's unearned, turns women off.
That wasn't LMR. that was a rejection. Next.
Overkill_Engine Endorsed Contributor 9mo ago
She's not that interested in you/has no fear of losing you and yet you are still giving her time and attention.
That's what you are doing wrong.
Whatever glorious excuse/exception you are rationalizing that she has in order to not accept that she simply lacks enough interest does not matter. It's not your job to fix any of those things even if they do exist. Her issues are not your responsibility.
There are millions of other fuckable women out there turning 18 every day. Go find one that doesn't waste your time and actually wants you.
Vermillion-Rx Admin 9mo ago
NEXT
Typo-MAGAshiv Endorsed Contributor 9mo ago
lol. Too late:
hantira2000 9mo ago
I should've added that I'm from a conservative country so fucking girls on the first date isn't the norm. But Ig that if she was interested I would've gotten the lay yesterday anyway.
Vermillion-Rx Admin 9mo ago
She would have fucked yesterday
Typo-MAGAshiv Endorsed Contributor 9mo ago
Women are women anywhere you go. As long as she's sure that you aren't going to go telling people about it, if she wants you, she'll fuck.
Is she a virgin waiting for marriage? That's the only kind of woman I'd have ever put up with making me wait like that once I figured out the game, and I never met a single one.
Otherwise, just look at her actions. She's practically screaming that she doesn't want to fuck you, but that she'll gladly use your time, effort, attention, resources, etc as long as you're giving them to her.
This is one of the many reasons you don't buy shit for a woman you aren't already fucking.
Vermillion-Rx Admin 9mo ago
That's what I get for not reading past the first line.
Damn. RIP OP
Typo-MAGAshiv Endorsed Contributor 9mo ago
Maybe if he just spends a little more money while listening to her feelings...
Vermillion-Rx Admin 9mo ago
And folding her laundry while his bully steals her
Typo-MAGAshiv Endorsed Contributor 9mo ago
Whatever happened to the laundry folder?
Vermillion-Rx Admin 9mo ago
Holy shit it took forever to find the post mentioning his name @ Guns_Flint
No idea what happened to him
Typo-MAGAshiv Endorsed Contributor 9mo ago
I just searched "+magashiv +vacuum" and my reply making fun of him was like the 3rd or 4th result.
Thread for anyone interested.
I guess he realized he was better off just lurking and reading and trying shit.
Vermillion-Rx Admin 9mo ago
You remembered vaccum, i didn't. I had to type some vague words and look through a few threads without being able to use +magashiv cause laundry didn't work and the words we use to roast it didn't work
Typo-MAGAshiv Endorsed Contributor 9mo ago
The search feature kicks ass. I can usually find what I'm after pretty quickly.
taya2002 9mo ago
I am positive that had nothing to do with the last date. If a kiss is that dramatical with a girl it usually means you've given her way to many nice guys signs and she realizes she can use your attention without giving away her intimacy.
Messaging her after what she did renforced exactly what she had in her mind; you're way too nice. You should continuously push the edge early on. Otherwise you'll be classified as an orbiter.
I did these mistakes years ago, I was complimented a lot by the ladies of how much of a gentleman I am, but it was just that. I never got laid, until I put myself in situations where rejection was a high possibility.
My advice is to go ghost on this chick completely.
louistaxi Should i (x1) 9mo ago
Stopped reading at four dates