Me and the boys went to the nearby city to a club. I'll be honest, I'm not the most attractive nor the ugliest, but I have the most balls and a will to try approaching even though some of my boys laugh when I fail, but fuck 'em.
I had 3 sets of girls, I failed every one of them (didn't have a good convo, didn:t get a number). At least, I talked to 6 girls and that's a big achievement for me. Also, I used the same opener for every set.
1st set of girls I went to, talked, introduced myself, but I lost interest and they also did since they're way older than me.
2nd set of girls - 1 was attractive, but didn't say a word. The uglier started talking to me and was pretty bitchy so I left, she showed no interest. It may be her insecurity that blocked me from talking to them, since she was 3 points below from the girl next to her.
3rd set of girls - I went with a buddy and I did all the talking. They were the most attractive set, as I started the approach, the prettier one said: "No, just no". She didn't even give me a chance to talk at all, while the other chick didn't even look at me, not even once. Tbh, when I approached them, they were slouched, looking down, maybe they were annoyed, angry, depressed or just drunk.
The problem is, before these approaches, last approach was long ago and IG I fell off the practice. The opener was cheesy: Hey "random female name" I know you. Basically I pick a name then I talk to her like I know her, "are you her", "wdyd here".
I thought it would be a good test, a chick which really liked me would just smile and answer "yes that's me". But, as I said, I don't think the opener matters that much, all that matters if the chick likes me right away.
Also I didn't have as much confidence as I do now, and that plays a part. Maybe I was unlucky, I think if I just found maybe more of them I'd atleast get a number from one of them.
Vermillion-Rx Admin 4d ago
2 more field reports and I'll remove your flair (as long as you don't post any more forum questions in that time). Except the next field reports need to be on singular women. I don't know what you were expecting approaching a group of women as a newbie. That isn't how you take off the training wheels or get any meaningful feedback or retrospection. Stick to basics.
There are a lot of mistakes in this field report. I'll analyze them because there is a reason you're stuck in newbie mode If this is what your base assumptions for approaching are
Typo-MAGAshiv Endorsed Contributor 4d ago
1) clubs are terrible. You're getting ripped off (exorbitant cover charges + expensive-ass drinks), the music is always too loud to converse, and all the women have their bitch shields set to maximum.
2)
I trust that you stopped trying right then and went on to do anything else in the world, right?
Or did you try to salvage what was doomed from the start? At the expense of your pride and your time?
3)
Did you really think this through?
You're actively filtering in favor of chicks who will lie to you about who they are, and filtering out all the ones who will give an honest "no, that's not me".
Is that really what you want?
4)
It does, but not as much as whether she is already attracted. It can tip the scales if she's undecided, or completely ruin your chances if it's something retarded like "hey [insert random woman's name], I know you. What are you doing here?" Fuck, asking a chick "what are you doing here?' is just asking for the most sarcastic, bitchy response possible.
I recommend that if you're anywhere, such as a grocery store, and an attractive woman makes eye contact with you and smiles at you, you immediately open with "hi, I'm [whatever your RL name is]. That's a nice shirt/ jacket/ hat". It's straightforward, and instead of complimenting something she can't control like her eyes, you're complimenting her taste.
SSBPikkon Can't think for myself 3d ago
Yeah I just wanted to at least try something. There were no IOI's I just wanted to give myself a little boost of confidence.
Typo-MAGAshiv Endorsed Contributor 2d ago
Confidence comes from achievement, success, triumph.
How was this supposed to help with that?
I could see getting rejected deliberately as a way to realize that it's not that big a deal; one of the old-school PUA exercises to overcome fear of rejection was to go get rejected 20 times in one day/night.
But actually building confidence? No.
Vermillion-Rx Admin 2d ago
I've repeatedly seen newbs equate lack of fear through rejection with confidence. They really have that low of confidence where simply fearing less makes them feel superhuman. They are down bad
They don't know what success feels like and simply not being mortally wounded by a rejection is an "achievement" to them
Vermillion-Rx Admin 4d ago
CITY AND A CLUB? you better be good looking, high SMV, and spitting good game for that. Night game is not for newbies, first major mistake.
What is your HONEST SMV rating? are you jacked, good style, attractive face? No bullshit answers here to this one because you were fucked before you stepped foot in a city club door.
Okay are your boys also high SMV, spitting fire game and....
Nope. You brought nothing but liabilities to help you game. Massive mistake. I don't know what you were thinking, you do not sound like you have the slightest clue what you were doing from before you left the house.
Why are you approaching sets of women as a newbie when you can't even get far enough with one? At a club no less. You are shooting way out of your wheelhouse. no. Do not do this to yourself man.
What the fuck were you expecting? Cougar porn-brained much? jeez
you were too far beneath her attractive friend's level for her to even acknowledge your existence and even the 3 point lower one didn't want to talk to you. You seriously need to look in the mirror dude.
What the fuck was the point in bringing these chodes out with you to NIGHT GAME NO LESS???? You'd have been better off going SOLO, these chodelets were nothing but dead weight, and you said you weren't the least good looking one.
Yeah, this is why you shouldn't slack and get rusty. But truth is, you didn't know what to do before this.
You have all the game resources TRP, YouTube, and the rest of the internet have to offer and this is the cringe shit you settled on? Completely inauthentic lying dogshit game? This isn't even game, this is some weird PUA magic trick out of a hat bullshittery. Where tf did you learn that gimmick? What were you hoping to accomplish with that? You would have been far better off just going up to women and saying: Hey i thought you were cute, my name is [IRL name], what's yours? Never make up some random bs again for your approaches. Dear god.
NO. That ISN'T how women work. First of all, you showed up at a club where your SMV is probably lower than what they wanted to be approached by at night. Secondly, you are acting like women are going to completely overlook a confusing social interaction and immediately understand sperg game and respond positively if they like you? Why would anyone randomly role play with you off the approach that makes no sense and makes them confused?
Of course they are going to respond to you answering your questions "no I don't know you" because it is not only random but confusing, invasive and out of pocket. Some of you guys read shit in TRP and be like IF SHE LIKES ME SHE WILL GIVE ME CHEAT CODEZ BOIS. No. You have to start with basic social acumen FIRST to even begin with.
This approach is absolutely bizarre. It's crazy that you chose this over a direct opener. What was this logically supposed to lead to for you? Especially by the time any of these women would have said what their real name was and asked who random rachael was that you thought they were. This has to be one of the least thought out rabbit holes of an approach I've ever seen and for WHAT. Why was this your choice of approach over any other kind of organic opener, including "hey I thought you were cute" (which isn't great but it's much better than this slop).
no dude, this game was very bad. it wasn't even game, I don't know what any of this was but it wasn't game. You also approached groups with no knowhow on what to do, and at a venue you were more than destined to fail at (night game is hard mode and for Chads). You also had pussy repellent friends tag along which is likely an additional factor leading to the "no, just no" from that group of girls. They immediately smelled what was coming their way and didn't want to endure it.
Do yourself and everyone reading your FR's a favor. Drop the clown game, go approach a woman solo, in a place you can have a normal interaction, and see where it gets you. This wasn't it dude, and you need to hear the brutal truth.
Vermillion-Rx Admin 4d ago
What the fuck happened to having a normal conversation with a woman with some teasing banter and touching?
Dear God AskTRP. It's not that hard
SSBPikkon Can't think for myself 3d ago
I agree this was corny. I just don't like the idea of the direct approach where I instantly tell her that she's cute. My intentions are known and she's above me for that.
In my past experiences, every time I tried a normal conversation, they got bored. Examples are: hi, what's your name, where you're from or I pick up something from the environment.
Do you think I should always lead with a really direct approach like "you're cute"?
Typo-MAGAshiv Endorsed Contributor 2d ago
Don't compliment her looks. That frequently backfires, especially at the beginning.
Vermillion-Rx Admin 2d ago
Yeah, my only point was that would have been better what he tried if he truly just wanted to see which women immediately liked him from the opener and nothing else, which still would have been close to zero but higher than whatever his FR had
SSBPikkon Can't think for myself 3d ago
Also, the approaches were outside of the club, not inside.
Vermillion-Rx Admin 3d ago
Yet again another post where the guy for some absolutely nonsense reason fails to clarify one of the most important details of the post out the gate...
Also ditch your chodelets. You are the average of your 5 closest associates. They are making or keeping you a loser by osmosis
Vermillion-Rx Admin 3d ago
I never ONCE said that. THIS is why spergs have such a hard time in TRP. I very clearly said "it would be BETTER than whatever cringe bullshit you did.
It is beyond me why spergs always without fail read some nuanced sentence that was taken the time to clearly articulate and somehow the sperg without fail finds a way to transform it into an absolute sentence.
Why must you spergs always take stuff and find a way to make it as black and white as possible? Jesus Christ A direct opener with intent is better than forced bullshit, and will get tons of women to reject you at the cost of working on the 1% of women who naturally would be into you. It is super low effectiveness but works on filtering a very small slice of women. It is better for newbs who otherwise have zero fucking game skills. But it is bad game. But even default mediocre direct game is better than whatever you tried
There's your fucking problem, you are a boring guy. You can have a normal ass conversation with some slang words tossed in because your voice and tone and way you speak is confident and captivating and she'll think you're attractive.
You clearly are bad at making normal conversation fun. Which is most spergs. I mostly fuck from normal conversations sprinkled in with some teasing banter and touching.
You spergs really need to fix your normal conversations. YOU are the reason they are BORING
have some personality. Stop trying forced bullshit game. You really need to learn how to speak normally to women and learn some tonality or body language or something that is exciting. I guarantee guys that fuck can say the exact same normal conversation lines as you and wet panties without changing any of the words.
How you say it matters, the directions you take a conversation and perceived confidence or awkwardness matters. YOU are the problem here. Basic social skills are clearly your kryptonite with these women.. fix it. Don't even run game.
Typo-MAGAshiv Endorsed Contributor 2d ago
Basic social skills are a component of game.
Vermillion-Rx Admin 2d ago
It is a component of game, but you don't have to run game to use social skills. All squares are rectangles but not all rectangles are squares.
These newbs/spergs need to be able to have a girl hover around and be able to get a date without game if they ever hope to succeed at game.
They're trying to skip steps and then end up going into ridiculous rabbit holes of what game is supposed to look like