Met a new girl and I'm way too into her basically and was wondering if anyone has similar problems? I fucked her so it's not like I'm simping for her before we fuck, but i feel myself being way too interested in her and losing discipline. The only way I know is to keep sourcing other girls. I figured I'd ask what you guys think.
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derdeutscher 1y ago
This mindset will come naturally when you get burned enough times. There is really no other way. All this theory reading is great. But it does not tell heart how to feel.
You will learn the truth by experiencing it.
P.S. Truth is not hating women. Thats being women hater. I love them. Just I know if I show it, I will lose her. When this gets ingrained, you are there. Of course, dont deny someone to point of emotional abuse.
First-light 2 1y ago
This is a long term solution but keep looking around you. Do you see any guy in a LTR who is just cruising along in bliss? Do you see attractive women who lie and who have vices? Do you see your female friends and acquaintances manipulating men? Do you see white knights ever winning?
The new girl is another female. You are falling for her and that is natural. It is not even a bad thing if it makes you stretch yourself and your boundaries but you have to keep some boundaries and keep your self. See it as what it is -a natural process of falling for someone. Trying to fight nature is like swimming against life's current -you won't get far and it won't be fun. Enjoy falling for the girl. Enjoy the excitement, the energy the attraction, the new things she shows you but understand this is just a free ride, she is just a woman and it is a temporary state.
Sourcing more women can help but not if you get it bad. It can also be a sort of hair of the dog thing -you are looking at chasing more pussy as the solution to chasing pussy too keenly. It still in its own way puts pussy on a pedestal.
You can also make yourself spend some time on your own projects. Just say to yourself "I will spend every 3rd weekend with my friends" I will not chat to her properly until I have all my work done for the day. I am not saying ignore her messages but don't actually get into a proper conversation till all you have to do at work and at home is done or unless you can really do it while talking to her.
Whatsnext 1y ago
So essentially enjoy it but only after all your personal work is done and realize it is temporary is what I’m understanding from your post
What is your opinions on compliments? I say them in a cocky funny way but I still compliment way too much after sex and when she’s being good. An example would be palming her ass and telling her god damn look at this thing. Maybe I'm in my head too much about it and i can relax and say w/e i want. I was rereading the sidebar and the "nice guy, weak provider" type of guy isn't really fucking like that or getting that clingy genuine interest it seems too.
First-light 2 1y ago
Its tricky because as ever its a balancing act. To not give credit where it is due is simply mean, to fawningly pour it out when it is not due is weak and simpy. There is also the probably bigger question of not what you say but what you do.
For example, you like her arse. You let her know. That is all good but there is a sliding scale here. Lets imagine that you see her bending over the sink in a light skirt. You decide its time for some spontaneous kitchen doggy style sex. She is well up for it and enjoys it as much as you do. You tell her how much you liked it and how much you liked the view. That is all good and she now knows that she can really make you happy like that and she can get your attention like that. There is no harm there -in fact its probably all really positive- but but if you start simping out and begging for a repeat not just picking the right time on the right day and making it happen then suddenly she has a hold over you and you can be led by your dick. If you are unlucky you have to do the washing up for a week just to get some doggy in the kitchen, if you are very unlucky you have to start taking her out first and buying her clothes that look great on her backside just to get what should be yours anyway. She won't even enjoy this as much as she did when it was spontaneous. She will have to start to decide if you are deserving enough and if there is that doubt in her mind, how can she enjoy it the same as if its what she wants to give a man of quality, wants to be appreciated by him and earn his praise? This is where you cross the line to the beta provider who has to earn enough stamps on his good boy chart to get some pretty dry pussy.
Its a hard line to walk and as relationships age you move more to the beta position anyway -its impossible to totally avoid- but if you base it on what is realistic praise and value? not from a fear based position of "what makes me look weak or thirsty?" it will be more likely to be OK. Women smell weakness pretty easily as they are repulsed by it so much. So its better to be over generous in plain good hearted compliment (not begging or trying to big her up to increase your good boy stamps) than mean from a fear position. Meanness was never known to make them wet either.
Give praise and credit where its due. Imagine a girl who didn't give that to you and consider how weak and insecure women can be. You might get a weak hold over an insecure woman for a spell of time like that but the joy in the relationship will die long before she leaves with stories of "emotional abuse". They really do value being told they have value but the moment you overvalue them and get a shortage mindset, then you become vulnerable to their manipulation. She has a good arse. There are better ones but you are satisfied with her, so long as she remains good company and willing in bed.
Whatsnext 1y ago
I have been the beta getting stamps on his punch card for sure (in last relationship at the end). I need to really improve at noticing her testing me when it comes to hostaging sex or things I like. When she does hostage sex, withdraw attention/time and go do something else right? Non-Butthurt. Try again later without mentioning it. Thats what I read in married red pill a lot.
First-light 2 1y ago
Yeah, happily go give your attention to something more rewarding if sex is hostaged. Easier when you are not feeling low and sex would really fix you. Then be wary of initiating if you think you might get a no as one way or another it will mess you up -whether you simp or sulk and feel low about it (you know you shouldn't but when you are feeling weak and low, its all too easy to feel worse about not having sex). When you are winning they cheerlead, when you are losing, how dare you be so unworthy.
Musicgoon78 3 1y ago
Every Red pill guy is afraid of being "too into" some girl they are dating.
Liking or loving a woman is a good thing, not bad. It's natural that you're going to find a girl you really like.
Now, to the heart of the issue... Complacency is the death of attraction. I agree with the first post from @First-light You need to make a time for yourself and guy friends. The key is balance.
The second thing that you need in any relationship with a woman is leadership. You should be steering the ship instead of referring to her or letting her steer. This will keep her tingles alive and keep your frame masculine. Go do you what you need to and invite her to come along if you can and want to. Don't give her the choice. In my LTR, the more control I take, the happier she is. Keep her happy by staying in control. That includes your own goals and hobbies.
Whatsnext 1y ago
Makes sense. Do you have examples of things you control? I think I do it naturally so I don't notice it. I setup everything and everything comes through me basically. I'm able to get shit done when shes gone but when shes here its like an intoxicating drug I cant focus. I need to improve at that i think by forcing myself to leave and go do things I like alone even. I see that on married red pill a lot. Its interesting because no matter how much you know you still have things to improve on and can slip
Musicgoon78 3 1y ago
Sure!
I tell her how to dress when we go out.
I make her do sexual things that I'm craving. Like "send me a picture of what I'm going to have tonight". Or, "crawl on your hands and knees to me slowly. I want your mouth when you get here". I take the keys from her to drive her vehicle. I tell her where we are going and what we are doing. I tell her what to cook me or what we are going to have for dinner. I tell her "I'm going to the gym and your coming with me" I reward her with praise, time and attention" I revoke that if she doesn't comply.
Musicgoon78 3 1y ago
She is your play toy. So obsess about her in a way that keeps you steering the ship.
Whatsnext 1y ago
Thats a good way to say it. Like dont be afraid to genuinely enjoy your time as long as you are steering the ship. The problem occurs when we get infatuated with them and they start giving bad behavior / non compliance and it grows and grows
Musicgoon78 3 1y ago
Exactly! You've got it.
Problematic_Browser 1 1y ago
Find something more important than pussy.
This shit isn't hard.