Worth noting: 1. I’m aware that not all church girls are quality.
- I don’t intend to spin plates at church (obviously that would cause a crazy dynamic)
I have decided that I want to actually meet women in real life. This includes cold approach as well as clubs, and also community groups such as church. Yes I am a Christian.
Although I’m not specifically looking for an LTR, I want to start filtering for girls who aren’t fucking club sluts (yes, I know church girls can be club sluts as well… but less likely than when you actually seek out girls at the club).
Is this actually possible? I found a youth group that fits my age. I looked at their social media and the dynamic with the hot girls is either: 24+ or so and married or like 20 and not married. I’m about to be 28. And I’m sure there are more singles than just 20 year olds.
Up until now I’ve met all my women through online dating or clubs and I would like variety.. sluts are great but kind of soul sucking.
mattyanon Admin 6mo ago
Sure, if you want to meet born again virgins who have fucked Chads and now found redemption.
There are women at church.
But women are women.
Wintergreen Didn't Read Sidebar (confirmed) 6mo ago
I mean obviously I’m not going for the 30+ year olds. If a girl is like 24 and has been going to church for years she’s probably not any more whorish than the rest of the women in existence, and perhaps she’s less whorish.
If a girl legit tells me she is a “born again virgin” I’m gonna assume she’s a mega whore.
Problematic_Browser 1 6mo ago
I had a post about church game a while back.
BLUF: You can fuck inside the church. Like, a LOT of fucking. But you have to do the following:
Know the code words and speak the church language. You can't come right out with "here's some dick!" That will get you crushed faster than in the regular world.
The hierarchy in church is key. The closer you are to "God" (i.e. the top) the more pussy you have access to. Failing that, you have to appear to be more pious than the men you're competing with.
Wintergreen Didn't Read Sidebar (confirmed) 6mo ago
Well fuck, if I can spin plates at church this will be the change in my life that I need.
What are the code words? Like “let’s do Bible study at my place” and then just bang the one that sticks around the longest? Haha
Thanks for the help. I’ll search for your church game post when I have the time later.
Seagram7 6mo ago
AWALT. I have had some go arounds with church girl religious types and the biggest thing to brace for is finding out that the nice not acting and looking like a slut church girl is an AWALT (in case you didnt know AWALT is All Women Are Like That or simply that women are going to women). The difference between her and the club slut is that church girl can chameleon and hide it better while club girl is at least has an honesty of what you see is what you get. My biggest disappointments were actually thinking that since this girl goes to church and acts decent that she isnt a slut with a slut past and high body count. Really disappointing to find out the truth.
The types I have encountered is 1) the reformed slut that found God and through her faith has been Born Again a virgin. That translated into she got thrown off the CC and is now in husband hunting mode. Along with that, starting NOW WITH YOU she isnt that kind of girl anymore. The other is the girl that likes to fuck and suck just like the rest of the girls out there but they hide it better. One of the most sinking feeling I have ever had was that "You Did What?" moment with a girl that I thought was decent until she gets comfortable and starts telling on herself.
So in the end, I think you are setting yourself up for disappointment when you find out AWALT.
Wintergreen Didn't Read Sidebar (confirmed) 6mo ago
Well I expect that they’re still sluts but probably less slutty to some degree. I mean I doubt they fucked behind a dumpster or in a club bathroom while on cocaine and mushrooms and shit.
Trust me, I’m aware of AWALT. I assume they’re all sluts until proven otherwise. But when you go to a club it’s like sticking your dick in a beehive and being surprised when it’s stung. When you go to a church you should still expect to get stung, but the chances are at least 5% lower right?
Seagram7 6mo ago
Wanna bet? Like I said the girl that did that are in church too but what makes it worse is they HIDE it better. Wait till you find that really nice girl that you can never imagine her doing that then you find out she did that. At least she looks and acts decent so you can introduce her to family and friends.
But that is a good thing that you assume they are all sluts. It will cushion your disappointment. I met a really nice girl last Friday at a charity party. Instead of taking her at face value, I assumed she pulled a train and did a gangbang while in college.
Wintergreen Didn't Read Sidebar (confirmed) 6mo ago
Realistically, I would actually bet against them having done that. I mean I agree that it’s best to assume they did, but if I had to bet a million dollars I would bet they didn’t. And to be clear, I’m saying that the ones that I doubt did that are the ones that don’t go to clubs. If they go to clubs of fucking course they have likely done some extra slutty shit, and just the fact that they can be in that environment regularly without feeling disgusted shows that they are mentally slutty at the very least.
But yeah, I’m talking about the hardcore religious ones who don’t go to clubs being the ones who don’t fuck behind dumpsters while on drugs.
I learned from my ex FWB that sometimes girls just volunteer for fun or to fight boredom. Sometimes their work wants them to volunteer.
Vermillion-Rx Admin 6mo ago
women at church:
You have a better chance of finding a decent woman in a church but you have the all squares are rectangles but not all rectangled are squares problem
Every woman In a club is a slut, not every woman in a church is not a saint
Wintergreen Didn't Read Sidebar (confirmed) 6mo ago
Good points, I’m still gonna just assume that each one is a slut until proven otherwise.
This is just part of my plan to spend more time interacting with people. I’m not thinking “I need a church girl” but rather “I need to meet girls in different types of places. Not excluding the clubs entirely but also not making clubs the only place.”
SeasonedRP 2 6mo ago
I'd be leery of any church that pushes a message that men exist to sacrifice for and serve others, and that's a lot of them. Churches mostly appeal to women, and church culture pushes a message of female superiority; they treat men basically as defective women who are more sinful than women and who need to be more like women. Avoid a woman who has bought into the message of a church like that. You definitely don't want to get hitched to some woman who thinks you are supposed to obey and serve her. If the hymns are sappy, romantic love songs to Jesus, chances are you're in such a church.
First-light 6mo ago
It can work. Be aware that church is an oppressive trad con environment that wants men to do everything for women and says women should submit to men in return. The reality is men sign up to marriage and do everything and women do what they would more or less do anyway in their relationships.
At one point in my life I worked for a Christian community and I am with a very religious woman now (Several complaints a week that I make her live in sin, not much more submissive than the next woman). I have learned that religion is really just a club and even if people are devout, they still live life in this world not the next. Christian communities are refuges for damaged people. You can fuck lots of semi crazy sluts who are still sluts inside thought they work for/ live in a Christian community but they are all damaged goods and best left alone.
I think time would be needed to get into a local youth scene. Then you can totally find women to have pretty normal relationships with -just a bit more than usually committed dating and sex but it takes time to work out who is a recycled hoe -to amuse yourself with at peril of losing group status as a good boy when it all goes wrong) or ignore. You also need to know who are your autistic devout Christians -to avoid as they will go insane if you bang them and don't marry them and who are the pretty normal girls who think its a nice social scene where they might get a good boyfriend/ husband.
Christin women love the idea of being with a Christian guy and keen Christian guys are rarer than keen Christian girls (my mum only traded down in social class to get my dad because of that, my dad's current wife -who is my age- only traded down to have an old man because of that). Once you are preselected as being one of the group, there is a lot of women you can have but you have to invest in that preselection or be good at acting it as the newcomer. With my present lady I knew enough about Catholicism to be able to act it (and have never been forgiven for pulling it off -not that I actually said I was a catholic, just that I could say enough prayers in Latin and keel in the right places and such).
Wintergreen Didn't Read Sidebar (confirmed) 6mo ago
Do you think that if a church girl gets with a church guy she is definitely “trading down” in SMV?
First-light 6mo ago
No. What I meant was that if a woman is devoted to a community, she will trade down in other aspects to get a man from that community. Belonging to the community is itself an addition to the guy's SMV in her case. This is how my dad ended up with 2 wives who were trading down in SMV to get him because he was a scarce commodity -an eligible male in his church.
There is a church type -awkward but friendly, likes to organise picnics and charity collections, was one of the last to get picked for teams at school, might be a scout master in his spare time, might drive a volvo because its very safe and reliable. He is not very high SMV. I didn't mean him though. There are high SMV guys in churches. Devout high SMV guys are quite rare I think. You don't get a huge number of massive jocks who are at communion every week day. I think you do get quite a few wealthy successful guys who know that church is a hub of influence in a community and who go most Sundays.
No-Stress-Cat 6mo ago
Dude, go find you a nice Amish girl to settle down with. It's about the only place you're going to find women who are not sluts.
Wintergreen Didn't Read Sidebar (confirmed) 6mo ago
I thought they all got slutty on rumspringer or whatever it’s called.
Seagram7 6mo ago
Rumspringa (Pennsylvania German pronunciation: [ˈrʊmˌʃprɪŋə]), also spelled Rumschpringe or Rumshpringa (lit. 'running around', from Pennsylvania German rumschpringe 'to run around; to gad; to be wild'
It's a very cleaver way to get rid of the naysayers, rebels and doubters of their community. It's also very fair and unoppressive. A young man and women are actually cast off from their community and told to go live in the outside world and see what it's like then come home. A vast majority do come home and they are more Amish than Amish. They come back as fanatics, fulling embracing Amish culture.
Wintergreen Didn't Read Sidebar (confirmed) 6mo ago
Interesting. The only way I can think of to find an Amish girl is to buy her a nice butter churner or something. Seriously though I would take an Amish girl haha.
Musicgoon78 2 6mo ago
You'll find sluts regardless of their faith. Even the "pure" ones will use the "poophole loophole."
That being said, I don't think your idea sucks or anything. Why not just go for it and see what happens?
Seagram7 6mo ago
Let's not forget HJ's and BJ's and titfucking and hotdogging. The female hamster always fascinated me. They really think all those acts dont count and they are still chaste. Like the movie Clerks where the female character has only been with 4 guys but has sucked off 37 men.
Wintergreen Didn't Read Sidebar (confirmed) 6mo ago
I already assume most girls in any group are sluts. To put it simply, what I’m planning on doing here is to go looking for fish in the ocean, rather than in my toilet like I have been doing. Yes, there are a lot of things in the oceans that are not fish, but how many fish have you found in your toilet bowl? Almost certainly one or less!
Musicgoon78 2 6mo ago
A cleaner toilet bowl is still a toilet bowl....
Wintergreen Didn't Read Sidebar (confirmed) 6mo ago
What? This is about fish bro. Can’t find fish in the toilet