You tell them you don't want to be exclusive, don't want to be in a committed relationship anymore, tell them you just want the relationship to be physical only etc. This question is way too basic for here, a demotion from one level to something lesser based on what you want should be obvious
And how often does that even work? I’m pretty skeptical that most guys here are actually telling them that they’re demoting them. I did that though and it didn’t work.
They don't say "I'm demoting you" but they make it clear there is a change to the relationship
And how often does that even work?
Depends. But if you're not satisfied with your relationship, you need to demote. The only other option is sucking it up and being unhappy. If she leaves after a demotion she leaves. You can't do anything about it.
I’m pretty skeptical that most guys here are actually telling them
Uh, they do. But you can't control if it works or not. It's that or continue to be unhappy with your existing relationship
If you haven't promised exclusivity, there's no need to say a thing. Silently demote within your thoughts. All she sees is fading interest from you and less contact.
If you've committed to her, you have some decisions to make. One route some men take is to silently demote her by cheating. Usually married men who don't want to lose access to their kids do this. Their wife is only a wife on paper; in practice, she's the plate with whom he lives while fucking other plates. One dude who did this was @theultmatecad. Check out some of his postings here. Do a search by his username and read some of his stuff.
The other way is to try being honest and above-board that you're no longer exclusive, but don't mind seeing her for some occasional fun. This usually won't work out in your favor, as most women will just leave at that point.
Most of the time, the woman isn't going to tolerate the downgrade if she knows about it. At that point, she's free to leave.
If you've made yourself into an attractive man, replacing her is easy.
The other way is to try being honest and above-board that you're no longer exclusive, but don't mind seeing her for some occasional fun. This usually won't work out in your favor, as most women will just leave at that point.
Most of the time, the woman isn't going to tolerate the downgrade if she knows about it. At that point, she's free to leave.
If you've made yourself into an attractive man, replacing her is easy.
I want to expound on this a bit for the long term benefit of the spergtists out there: the status of plate isn't just "I get easy sex for no investment/commitment anymore".
It's also assigning her a state in your mind where you are as equally OK with never seeing her again as you are with using your dick to rearrange her guts. And if you can't internalize that state first, nothing else you do is going to work out well. Because you'll care if she leaves. You'll care if she whines and cries.
You have to be willing to be ruthless or she will use you caring against you.
Also, if you are asking in the context of demoting a woman you have already overtly committed to...it's usually simpler to just overtly end the relationship, but with as little detail/talky BS as possible. If you are cohabitating you move out first, then inform her, etc. Minimize her leverage and communication.
Fail to do the above and the consequences are your fault.
Hell, if you are doing it right, it doesn't matter if she gets it or not, because you are living in such a manner that she has limited ability to do fuck all about it.
You have to decide how bothered you are about losing her, what the odds of losing her are either way and then choose which way to play it.
If she is a plate you accept she is going to get broken when you mess up spinning her and you are OK with that. That's the first thing. If you are not able to say that she is not a plate, then she is a relationship you do not greatly value but fear to lose and you should not think of her as a plate or treat her as such.
If she is a plate, how to spin this one? Either just show don't tell -gradually do as you like more, with some side chick or two, covertly or less covertly or have the conversation in which you explain that you like the relationship but not the commitment and see what you get.
You can't have your cake and eat it with this one. Its easy to demote her if she really is a plate but if you are just in an unsatisfying relationship and want some side sex, it will all go badly if you are actually fearing to endanger the relationship.
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Vermillion-Rx Admin 1y ago
You tell them you don't want to be exclusive, don't want to be in a committed relationship anymore, tell them you just want the relationship to be physical only etc. This question is way too basic for here, a demotion from one level to something lesser based on what you want should be obvious
Wintergreen Didn't Read Sidebar (confirmed) 1y ago
And how often does that even work? I’m pretty skeptical that most guys here are actually telling them that they’re demoting them. I did that though and it didn’t work.
Vermillion-Rx Admin 1y ago
They don't say "I'm demoting you" but they make it clear there is a change to the relationship
Depends. But if you're not satisfied with your relationship, you need to demote. The only other option is sucking it up and being unhappy. If she leaves after a demotion she leaves. You can't do anything about it.
Uh, they do. But you can't control if it works or not. It's that or continue to be unhappy with your existing relationship
Wintergreen Didn't Read Sidebar (confirmed) 1y ago
Yeah I know they wouldn’t use that term unless they’re sperg.
Typo-MAGAshiv Endorsed Contributor 1y ago
If you haven't promised exclusivity, there's no need to say a thing. Silently demote within your thoughts. All she sees is fading interest from you and less contact.
If you've committed to her, you have some decisions to make. One route some men take is to silently demote her by cheating. Usually married men who don't want to lose access to their kids do this. Their wife is only a wife on paper; in practice, she's the plate with whom he lives while fucking other plates. One dude who did this was @theultmatecad. Check out some of his postings here. Do a search by his username and read some of his stuff.
The other way is to try being honest and above-board that you're no longer exclusive, but don't mind seeing her for some occasional fun. This usually won't work out in your favor, as most women will just leave at that point.
Most of the time, the woman isn't going to tolerate the downgrade if she knows about it. At that point, she's free to leave.
If you've made yourself into an attractive man, replacing her is easy.
Overkill_Engine Endorsed Contributor 1y ago
I want to expound on this a bit for the long term benefit of the spergtists out there: the status of plate isn't just "I get easy sex for no investment/commitment anymore".
It's also assigning her a state in your mind where you are as equally OK with never seeing her again as you are with using your dick to rearrange her guts. And if you can't internalize that state first, nothing else you do is going to work out well. Because you'll care if she leaves. You'll care if she whines and cries.
You have to be willing to be ruthless or she will use you caring against you.
Also, if you are asking in the context of demoting a woman you have already overtly committed to...it's usually simpler to just overtly end the relationship, but with as little detail/talky BS as possible. If you are cohabitating you move out first, then inform her, etc. Minimize her leverage and communication.
Fail to do the above and the consequences are your fault.
redhawkes 2 1y ago
Easy, withdraw the affection part and treat her like a plate. She'll get it, no need to sperg out about it.
Read HSP bitch management.
Overkill_Engine Endorsed Contributor 1y ago
Hell, if you are doing it right, it doesn't matter if she gets it or not, because you are living in such a manner that she has limited ability to do fuck all about it.
First-light 2 1y ago
You have to decide how bothered you are about losing her, what the odds of losing her are either way and then choose which way to play it.
If she is a plate you accept she is going to get broken when you mess up spinning her and you are OK with that. That's the first thing. If you are not able to say that she is not a plate, then she is a relationship you do not greatly value but fear to lose and you should not think of her as a plate or treat her as such.
If she is a plate, how to spin this one? Either just show don't tell -gradually do as you like more, with some side chick or two, covertly or less covertly or have the conversation in which you explain that you like the relationship but not the commitment and see what you get.
You can't have your cake and eat it with this one. Its easy to demote her if she really is a plate but if you are just in an unsatisfying relationship and want some side sex, it will all go badly if you are actually fearing to endanger the relationship.