I’m 27 and moving to a new city and want to change the way other people see me.
Looking to change the image I portray to others, men and women. Up to this point I have never had problems making friends or pulling a 7 for the night. I bring a lot of energy with me into the room with me and know that people around me appreciate me to always have something to say and am a genuinely positive person who loves to make other people laugh/have a good time. The problem is I believe I sacrifice a lot in constantly doing this. I catch myself saying dumb shit for laughs to the point that people always tell me they wouldn’t expect me to be smart, even though I am about to begin law school under a full scholarship. I don’t think I am taken very seriously by other high-value men and the 8-10s see right through me as a people pleaser. I know I will never be able to have the John Wayne personality but feel there is a way to utilize my energy and balance it with a more proud demeanor.
I know I’m a good-looking guy, I’ve put myself into great shape and the future lawyer thing attaches career value that I was always missing. Regardless of this, I spent the whole summer doing the same people-pleasing shit that I know portrays me as a dummy and a joker.
I’m just wondering what the steps are for making this transformation, does it all just come down to a built-in low self-esteem?
First-light 5mo ago
First off, the macros of life seem to be on your side here -brains, looks and career, so don't worry too much about the small stuff like how you come over right now. What is more important is keeping the macros all headed in the right direction because when they reach a certain level it really won't make a huge difference how you come over, people will sit up and take you seriously. As that starts to happen you will yourself adjust your behaviour naturally. When you are a successful lawyer, you will speak differently to people than when you are a fresher, people will take you differently and you will grow naturally into that role, with a few epiphany moments on the way and you will also probably have a few real blind spots that less successful guys would have addressed but you don't have to -think of a judge or consultant doctor who has some irritating tic that he just either can't see or can't be bothered to change -because he doesn't have to -he si top dog, he does what he likes.
Self improvement is a good thing but just be yourself. Don't lose yourself as you make yourself better. Low value guys have to be what people want them to be. Higher value guys get to be the best version of themself they can be. So if you like making jokes, do it. Just learn to draw your lines. People please all you like but learn to inset a moment of pause in your thought when asked to do something or to reply to a comment to decide if it was a fair thing and if you will do or say what is needed to please or not. Just get used t who you are, what you like and don't and be happy to say what you feel with a smile. Men will respect that.
A fair few young high value guys are dicks -they don't have to not be dicks so they are dicks. So what, screw them, act how you like, they will mature as they learn they have to be more respectful to get on in life and they will respect you for being yourself.
gopherids1 5mo ago
Thank you for this man. It's refreshing to get this type of insight on here. I think you nailed it, I'm just going to keep heading in the right direction and not be so critical of myself.
Wintergreen 5mo ago
I feel like I used to be a people pleaser also. What helped me was realizing that I thought that people were above me. It didn’t matter what their specs were (dumb, annoying, ugly), they all had more confidence than me.
I realized that the way people treat you is often due to their own insecurities. IF you are acting as a people pleaser, then what you’re doing is giving people the ability to use you as the placeholder that proves that they’re better than someone. It may not be conscious, but that’s how it is.
So yes, it comes down to self-esteem. You need to be able to disagree with people and not fear their reactions. I think what caused me to act this way was that a relative was always an extreme dick if I disagreed, so this changed my behavior, but I realized that this happens mainly with relatives because they feel comfortable being hateful to you if that’s in their nature, whereas people who are not close with you often won’t cross the line that makes you question your worth long term, unless you yourself cross that line with them.
So next time a gas station attendant or a teacher says they love the heat, say you prefer the cold more (if you do). I bet before you’d have said you prefer the heat more just to “bond” but that’s dumb.
Typo-MAGAshiv 2 5mo ago
Read the following books:
"No More Mr. NiceGuy" by Dr. Robert Glover
"When I Say No I Feel Guilty" by Dr. Manuel Smith
NeoSpartan 5mo ago
I've thought for a long time that the majority of people are semi-retarded so I never really had this problem.
Spend some time listening to what the people who are into say.. pop culture or rap talk about. Politics too, both sides. I think the average IQ must have dropped at least 20 points in the last few decades. There's science to back this up, and compounding that is the increased focus on test taking skills in the modern curriculum. Hard to quantify the former but it's reasonable to assume training people like that would artificially inflate scores, so the problem is likely a lot worse than what the stats say. Which are bad enough on their face anyway.
https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/iq-rates-are-dropping-many-developed-countries-doesn-t-bode-ncna1008576
Ever do the thing in English class in HS or college where you edit each other's essays?