In about 1.5-2 years if I play my position I shall be on the road to wealth. How can I ensure that if I have a child in this country that, if things go bad with the mother, I can drastically minimize the amount of money I'd forfeit? I don't need to be married (although my family would strongly prefer it), but if I do and things go left, how can I save at least some of my money? Thanks to any replies and anecdotes are welcome
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sean_karaya 1y ago
May I ask why are you looking for a child in the US? Is it the passport?
I do not know whether you want the US passport. I also do not know whether you want the Child to know you as the father. But should these parts be compromisable. I will go via these routes.
Note that these are only an exercise on possibilities and not an endorsement.
1. Organize the birth in Dominica / Macedonia / or St Kitts
Unless you are married, your route could be this :
But Cyprus gives the child one more fallback option that he can prove part of his ancestry is Cypriot. This way should everything fall apart he can always have uncompromising access to EU, and route to an European passport. If he is in Macedonia, then this is not very important, but otherwise this is a point to think.
So, once he is implemented in a surrogate, bring her to the Countries mentioned above, and make sure he is borne in one of these countries. He will get rights to the country's passport (which frees him from many tax obligations and gives him worldwide mobility, even simplified access to USA)
If you are of former Yugoslavian decent, try to ensure the birth Chile. If you have jewish decent, try Israel. If you have any connection, you can try Taiwan, but pulling of these shenanigans in Taiwan will be very difficult to my knowledge. Any of these gives your child easier access to USA.
2. Placing the child and his upbringing.
Immediately place the child in the hands of an adoptive parents. This will require having options and pressure. Set up a business in a relatively impoverished but safe country.
Cyprus is good for this. So is Greece with personal connections. But without personal connections Greece is a failure. While Colombia has been proposed to me, I will not recommend that route. In south America, Costa Rica, and Belize are good places. In fact Belize is the #2 choice for such shenanigans after Cyprus in the world. The choice will become important soon.
In this business, employ local childless couples that are truly in love with each other, i..e. not driven by hypergamy. This is a search for a needle in a haystack. You need to employ multiple couples for this.
Among those couples find the one that is most trusted, and most loyal. Place your child on their hands. Even before the child knows you as a father. They will be able to offer your child a far better childhood than a woman who is coming into your wealth as your """wife""".
3. Money.
For the child's upkeep, you need to set up a trust. This can be done from Inside USA. Again, Cyprus and Belize are most popular choices, and that is the shenanigan I was speaking before. Your US business entity can become a branch in debt to the Cyprus or Belize entity, and you can reroute your otherwise required taxes to these countries.
A seasoned US Accountant will be able to do this.
Also, if you chose the birthplace to be St Kitts, then St. Kitts itself can be a very good location for this. They have specialized benefits for this, such as a statute of limitation of 1 - 2 years against creditors.
With this trust, if your child later moves to Europe, things will be rather easy, as it will be a simple and believable thing, that he is born in St Kitts, and the trust is also in St Kitts.
4. Work.
Where will the child work? If he wants to join the US economy, then buy him a land in Belize. These needs to be regulated by the trust for business purposes. Islands in Belize are somewhere between 100k and 400 k. Do not go to Bahamas where hollywood sxxt moves along.
4.a) If the child wants to go in technology, sensors, aerospace etc: Recent developments in US govt is reducing their trust in Chinese companies such as DJI drones. and there is a growing voice demanding non-chinese options. A Belize location + company opens up the option for him.
4.b) If the child wants to go in Finances, then Give him a place in USA itself. An US entity will have way more freedom of moving money, ACH system access etc.
4.c) If he wants to play from outside the scene, then again, using his Cypriot ancestry, he can go to Portugal, where taxes are lower than Cyprus itself.
5. Finding his tribe
See below.
As you can see:
1. None of this is doable in a gung ho mantra.
You can't "lift and fuck your way out of this. You have to overthink, and analyze all the possibilities. The often cliche Red Pill way of doing things, being the big fish in a small pond, being the alpha toad in a well, such as just do X Y Z to get girls will not work here. You are going in a life, which is technically a life on run, but in open air in broad daylight, in full view of others.
You can't just follow a recipe to win here.
That means, you need to work with thinking men. Not Stockton Rush types who just does random things without a care in the world. Not random crypto millionaires who are trying to prove how macho they are. But truly thinking men.
Depending on your current surroundings and experience, this may or may not make sense to you.
2. It will be important to cooperate with others to make a tribe where you child can find friends, and may be, a worthy partner.
That is specifically the reason I am sharing these ideas here. Because I want other people to do similar things, so that a parallel ""community"" of sorts takes place, where my child can find his place.
Take in mind, that such communities will not correspond to racially homogeneous white picket fences (just saying, without implying that such things may be important to you) . There will be all kind of people.
You can argue, that this will not give the child some sort of a root. That he will fly high and run a risk of a hard fall. True. But the goal is to give him a parachute as well, so that he can brake his fall and catch the next wind.
Good luck.
Intrepid_Place53900 1 1y ago
In the USA, you can do things if kids aren't in play. But, very little about it, when kids come in the picture.
If you have a pre-nup for example, throw it out the window when kids come into play.
If you aren't married, don't share assets, throw it out the window when kids come into play.
As others mentioned, in Blue states, Northeast, west coast, it's worse as they are very very woman sided in divorce. Shit many of those states like Mass, you have to pay for the kid to go to college until age 25, they force you to pay.
You may think you can hide money, you may be able to, but if you get caught they will eat you alive in proceedings.
Now, I'm Old, I got divorced, my kids are grown. If I were young again , I'd probably only get married/have kids, with women who had more money than me. Family money and/or have career that pays very well.
I know, I know. Most of you are going to say those type of women are a pain in the ass, they aren't what a Red Pill guy would want, not feminine, won't take care of you, will fight for superiority in the relationship. Yup, I know, I didn't say it was gonna be easy.
Redpillpusher 1y ago
Yes, I've seen that prenuptials are worth less than the paper they're printed on
whytehorse2021 1y ago
Marry a traditional, conservative Muslim woman from a poor background. I did it 18yrs ago and still happily married. Kids are 15 and 9. I just fucked her last night and she's 47. Not fat, still gets wet, no menopause, long hair, no tats/piercings, prays 5x/day, etc.
There was some soccer player who married a hoe and she divorced him but he put everything in his mom's name so she got nothing in the divorce. So there are your 2 routes.
Redpillpusher 1y ago
Yes, I'm going to look in that route, probably not a Muslim woman though. And I heard of him, I can't do that, though, my mother's too westernized, materialistic, and just bad with money in general so I'd be hemorrhaging money regardless.
whytehorse2021 1y ago
Muslims aren't that bad if you can put up with them always talking about the apocalypse and Jews, lol.
First-light 2 1y ago
You can't eliminate risk but you can minimise it. Simply don't marry. This won't fix everything but at the very least it will stop you paying for a divorce lawyer. It may also make one or two things easier and less expensive in a split. Just hold out for this. You will never stop bine pressured., I am pressured every week by my lady and I have never given in since my first mistake.
Start as many escape plans as possible before hello. Get a escape bank account and an escape savings accounts with some obscure bank. This may not be much use but it might be. Make sure you opt for on line statements, so you never get anything on paper. Maybe don't update your postal address with them either unless forced to. When you meet her it needs to be already a sleeper account, occasionally topped up in cash.
Gold is really a must. It got me out of hole once with a split, let me buy her half of the . She went in thinking she's get me kicked out of the house, turned out she had to leave instead, then she was watching waiting for me to be forced to sell the house to giver her what was hers and I just produced the money. Physical is best in the long run but gold certificates also have some value.
Do you have a hobby? A lot of old junk can actually be a lot of valuable collectors' items.
Consider a sound overseas investment.
Limited company status may offer some legal protection. I know states vary but I get away with owning own a limited company (a separate legal entity) from which I pay myself peanuts. It actually owes me money legally. It also pays me a large pension contribution every month (more than my salary). No ex has a call on my pension when it comes. I do my best to depreciate the company's assets faster than they wear out. When I am no longer touchable for maintenance I will buy those assets back at book value.
Yes women from traditional cultures are generally a bit better but they do expect serious blue pill. I have had kids with both western and non western women. Both can bitch out as good as each other but the traditional ones are better in bed.
Like I say early planning really helps. It sounds like you already know that. So well done and good luck.
Redpillpusher 1y ago
Thanks man, this seems like the greatest advice thus far. I know a little about LLCs (was looking at how I could use them to work the student loan racket). So what's stopping an ex from trying to get part of the LLC and whatever funds you draw from to pay yourself in a divorce? Since, now, the law states that the owner of an LLC must be formally declared. Unless you put it in someone else's name you trust? And if traditional women are even better in bed these modern women are truly WORTHLESS parasites. You can't cook, clean, or have sex? Why are you alive?
First-light 2 1y ago
Yeah, the western education system totally fails our daughters. It educates them to be second rate men. Who needed one of those? Even a fag would want a first rate man. The last thing it makes them is strong women. It makes them aware of their weaknesses and needy and with a chip on their shoulder. Surely a strong woman is a woman capable of looking after herself and her loved ones? Not someone who needs men and the big state to make her sort of equal to a second rate man while being unable to chop wood, forage, prepare game, grow vegetables, sew or cook.
Laws vary a lot from nation to nation, state to state and courts vary from city to city in their implementation so I would not want to give wrong advice. I actually set up my limited company after my divorce to stop being taken for unfair maintenance payments. Being self employed meant that I was being made to pay a portion of any capital expenses of my company to my ex as maintenance -because I was "taking it home" and keeping it as an asset. So If I bought a work truck for two years of actual take home pay -the sort of big working tipper truck you would never drive for leisure or an expensive work machine, I had to give my ex 30% of the value of it "for the children". This was clearly grossly unfair because the truck would depreciate to nothing earning me money that I would split with my ex fairly but the truck itself was never something I had for pleasure or could keep as a source of wealth, it was a necessary business asset that I ran into the ground. Once I set up the company that bullshit was finished. Then I could pay myself almost nothing and my ex could not challenge it.
It is ironic but the next lady I had children with actually explained the idea of the limited company to me to save me from these unfair payments. Since I never married her, she never could take a slice of the company when we split. She has never challenged it but had we been married, she told me she would have had the whole house and half the company.
I had a friend who divorced and gave his wife half the value of his company. He sold the company (an outdoor equipment shop) to his father for 2 cents. He made her come to his lawyer and sign for her share. I gather when she saw the cheque, the look on her face was priceless. I don't know if you could get away with this these days or in your state but it was rather wonderful one has to admit.
Vermillion-Rx Admin 1y ago
I'm not qualified to speak on this subject, but the absolute thing I would do at the minimum is look at the state laws and find a state to live in that has the favorable divorce laws and custody laws. Look into the local politics and do not move anywhere that has feminist family court laws.
That has to be a basic step zero requirement. If you live in a shitty state for fathers you're already doomed. I don't know which states, if any, have favorable enough custody and divorce laws to avoid enough fallout though, that's where I'm not qualified to tell you
Redpillpusher 1y ago
Yes, of course. I already hate visiting the big Blue states of California or NY already so I've already made a mental note to never live in those type of areas
Musicgoon78 3 1y ago
Prenup is the only legal thing. Marriage is a negligent and losing endeavor.if you have kids and leave or she leaves, be prepared for a lot of pain and a huge loss of income.
Redpillpusher 1y ago
Oh yes, but i forgot to add, I'm open to illegal ideas as well
SwarmShawarma 1y ago
Invest in something that is compact, generally holds value and can be liquidated fairly easy, and stash it. Gold comes to mind.
That is arguably commoner way of hiding a wealth, but effective?, available to anyone and secret being kept by someone you can trust.
It protects part of your wealth being taken away by a government [your wife being represented by a government as well]
I have stuff hidden in the soil and have had for at least 15y.
Redpillpusher 1y ago
Smart and thanks. Coincidentally enough, I just bought some gold last week. Not a lot but great minds think alike
MrSupreme 1y ago
Don't get married.I repeat, do-not-get-married.To anyone.ever. It only benefits her and maybe the guy's blue pill conditioning, like believing it will bring the couple closer together or something. I know there's many couples that have made it work, but I personally don't think you need to get married to enjoy a long lasting,functional relationship. Even the thought of having a ceremony to make a union official seems silly to me, it's a woman thing.
Redpillpusher 1y ago
I'd agree but I'm from an immigrant family so you know how that goes. If my grand and great grandparents were from here, marriage wouldn't be on the table but with my family, unfortunately I must consider it. I'm still strongly leaning towards just having a child or more out of wedlock, though
MrSupreme 1y ago
Yeah it gets tricky.Read up a bunch on vetting women for marriage and make your best effort to find a healthy one that would make a great mother and of course,great company for you.You got it tricky there mate.