I’ve seen both ideas but aren’t they contradictory? If it’s a fuck yes why would she be shit testing you, wouldn’t she make things as easy as possible for you to escalate?
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whytehorse2021 1y ago
Shit tests are actually fitness tests. My wife is a ride-or-die chick and she's never shit tested me. If you're a woman's best hypergamous option she won't shit test you. She will comfort test you though.
Anyway, if a woman isn't sure you're her best hypergamous option she will test you.
imissedherbrightside 1y ago
"If you're a woman's best hypergamous option she won't shit test you. She will comfort test you though."
Does this imply, if your woman begins shit testing you, you're no longer her best option? I was under the impression you will be forever vetted and shit tested by an LTR.
whytehorse2021 1y ago
In an LTR it's about maintaining frame. Assuming the relationship began in the man's frame, and he maintains that frame, there shouldn't be shit testing. If an LTR is forever shit tested it's in the woman's frame. This is more common than you might think. When women "settle", typically in their 30s with a beta provider, it slowly shifts to her frame and the shit tests just keep on coming.
coolsocks00 1 1y ago
This maxim is for you to keep your abundance mentality and to NEXT chicks that make it harder than it should be.
It is not about shit test. Girls shit test you early out of interest. They're not making it hard, they're taking a measure of your attractiveness. If you were to next a girl over a shit test, you're doing it wrong.
Problematic_Browser 1 1y ago
Shit tests are ways to get you to demonstrate your value to her. She wouldn't be doing it if she saw your value in the first place.
The one im dating would FUCKING NEVER shit test me because if she did, I'd call her bluff.
No-Stress-Cat 1y ago
Women have push-pull methods too. You have to roll with it and use counter push-pull.
First-light 1 1y ago
Yes she usually will. The shit test comes later when you are settling down in a relationship and she wants to know the boundaries.
coolsocks00 1 1y ago
Not really. Shit tests come early when they're not sold on you yet. If they start coming later, it's usually a bad sign. Testing your boundaries would be something else.
Vermillion-Rx Admin 1y ago
Like other things you've been confused on, this isn't contradictory at all.
"Fuck yes or it's a no" is so that you don't HAVE to deal with a bunch of annoying shit tests.
Women shit test because:
However, women don't shit test men they are crazy about.
Fuck yes skips all the stupid shit testing because they are both definitively attracted and don't want to ruin it by testing the lines
You would be better served not thinking everything is contradictory on here. I think you are really struggling with nuance/basics
Overkill_Engine Endorsed Contributor 1y ago
And even when it doesn't work out with a specific woman, that's still a win if the guy is smart enough to realize that he no longer needs to invest time and effort on that specific woman and can just move on to another one.
I keep seeing newbies trying to wrangle the "rules" so that they have a guaranteed paint by numbers shortcut to getting their dick wet with a specific woman that made their pee pee hard. Which is automatically oneitis/overinvesting.
Vermillion-Rx Admin 1y ago
Full agree with comment.
It's easier to replace than to chase imo
Overkill_Engine Endorsed Contributor 1y ago
Plus chase sets a bad precedent since it counts as rewarding her bullshit. AKA "Paying the Dane-geld".
Problematic_Browser 1 1y ago
Never pay the dane-geld!
The modern day interpretation is never engage in chore play. It doesn't foster anything but resentment.
Vermillion-Rx Admin 1y ago
Yep. "I can back burner this guy and he'll still try"
Is a horrible precedent
I think most guys (newbies primarily) just have no idea what it's like to get genuine interest. You can't go back after it. But these guys haven't gotten it so they instead hamster how to create interest where none has already really materialized
Vermillion-Rx Admin 1y ago
Second comment
Women who are fuck yeses don't shit test. You're fundamentally confused here
Musicgoon78 3 1y ago
Here's the big problem with most uncalibrated guys. They don't think of context at all. Not everything is a shit test.
Is she spending time in your presence? Does she agree to hang out? These aren't secret formulas or rocket science. There are clear indicators of a woman's interest in her actions. Look at her actions instead of listen to what she says. She wouldn't stick around to shit test if she wasn't interested. She would reject you outright, bail and move on to someone else.
And sorry, some women aren't as easy as others. It's your job to pay attention to her actions and think critically. The sidebar is a set of tools. You use the right tools for the incoming information and vibe.