On Hoe Math there is a video entitled "Seemingly" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8nY8YJNfu0&ab_channel=hoe_math
The basic idea is that women require "upkeep" in addition to attraction. The Hoe Math guy even puts a number on it. He says if you only have passion/attraction it lasts for 3 years at most (and usually MUCH shorter). Not sure where he got that number. In the internally linked video the girl blogger he quotes gives the "upkeep" example as the girl "needing" a good morning text. She doesn't get the text, so eventually she dumps him no matter how chaddy he is.
So, this kind strikes a nerve with me because I definitely get the "text me" requests, but I don't do it because it seems validational. They are like "You don't care about me because you don't text me." I do not get this from the highest value girlfriend, but the ones who are even slightly insecure say it.
So, the Hoe Math guy seems to say it is required to do this "upkeep", but I am not so sure because it seems subordinate. I guess I do agree that "provide and protect" is required, but good morning texts are not a material provision, they are just validation, so I don't see how that is required. Does the Hoe Math guy have this wrong?
Vermillion-Rx Admin 2w ago
This seems retarded mental masturbation at face value, sorry but not sorry
I'll watch the video later when I'm not busy but successful relationships require a guy who "just gets it"
You should be sexually desirable upfront (Chad) lest you want a dead bedroom relationship. But you should also "just get it" and when a woman earns a relationship from you, you should actually follow through on the "long term" part of long term relationship and not be a retard who only pumps her
Relationship requires an adequate balance of masculine energy from you and feminine energy from her where you both fulfill and compliment each others needs and roles in a relationship and also, more importantly, have
LONG TERM
Compatibility.
I can already tell his is massive mental masturbation and "not getting it"
You won't get smacked with "dumping Chad for not texting good morning"
If you actually "get it" and have an actual reason and bond with a long term partner. I can just tell before I've even watched this video where YOU are confused and where this hoe math video is going wrong in explaining the concepts to spergs
Like i said I'll watch the video when I have time but this is my PSA response to everyone reading this about how to relationship
Testme 2w ago
I don't quite understand your answer. If a girlfriend is asking for non-essential devotional acts like "good morning" texts (for example), is that something you would recommend doing or not? and what is the rationale?
I guess my problem with it is that it seems subordinate and would seem to erode my leadership role which I think is exactly why they do it: they are trying to get their boyfriend to be subordinate to them.
Vermillion-Rx Admin 2w ago
Because a guy who "gets it" would have handled his relationship correctly from the beginning and his girlfriend WOULDN'T be demanding good morning texts to begin with.
If she's demanding petty shit like that, it's because the guy doesn't "get it" and so now she has to ask for rapport
You take this shit way too literally, and as I mentioned before, stop ingesting non-canon content and then coming here to post about it
It's NOT canon, because it's NOT red pill. But you're trying to make it red pill. Stop doing that, no wonder you are confused. The woman in the good morning text video was just rambling about shitty advice but here you are slurping it up and then bringing it in here where you shouldn't be
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Typo-MAGAshiv 1 2w ago
Hoe_math is funny and sometimes insightful, but he is not Red Pill.
And yes, he's wrong about this (going off what you said without watching video).
Most people on YouTube a fucking waste of time and full of shit. The only ones who immediately spring to mind as being both worth watching for entertainment value as well as Red Pill knowledge are Rian Stone, Rollo Tommasi, and Aaron Clarey.
And yes, even those three will occasionally get something wrong because they're only human and no one bats a thousand.
Maturin_nj 2w ago
Agree that you tube RP is total garbage. It's such shit that the youtube censors will never ban it and perhaps encourage it. Rollos blog is far better than his videos. Youtube doesn't like MGTOW bec mgtow promotes counter social policies - like marrying and supporting women and feeling lucky for breadcrumb sex. The system along with tradcons encourage the enslaved plow horse man who blindly performs his duty as taught by the church men.
HoMath created the best RP YT video uploaded imo. It's called 'mapping'.. I'm talking to the choir here, but every nice guy, self proclaimed good man (whatever the fuck that means other than he's incapable of attracting chicks), Christian guy, friendzone warrior, 35 year old Virgin, BP fool, trad-con, churchman, mens rights harpiee must watch that video.
Intrepid_Place53900 2w ago
Short term and long term
Long term requires a few different things
financehardo420 2w ago
As typo said; hoe math is funny and sometimes funny but not redpill.
Listen to his voice - he’s clearly a fuckin nerd that got burned once and it probably sent him down the redpill rabbit hole. Instead of internalizing it he’s become more of an absolute sperg. Cautionary tale for you @joyboy
Testme 2w ago
According to him, he fucked a LOT of girls when he was younger. He is like 38 now. So he is not a "nerd", or at least not a desperate nerd.
financehardo420 2w ago
listen to his voice and the way he talks; you should be able to know instantly that he doesn’t fuck
Maturin_nj 2w ago
Really his voice is the key. Ever hear Mike Tysons voice. Let me guess.tyson is beta. Homath knows his shit. He rips female delusions and if he helps guys out he's OK in my book. Sure beats the BP.
Typo-MAGAshiv 1 2w ago
Only a fucking nerd would make all those nerdy charts.
neeeeeeeerrrrds!
Vermillion-Rx Admin 2w ago
How fuck u link an image directly on here??
Typo-MAGAshiv 1 2w ago
like this, n00b
whytehorse2021 2w ago
Relationships take work. That's all he's saying. Do the work or lose the relationship. Call it upkeep or whatever. I have a relationship with my guy friend. I have to keep it up by calling him once a week. It's valid validation.