TLDR; How to escape living paycheck to paycheck when I'm terrible at college?
Context:
I'm in my late 20's and I'm fucking stuck. I need some guidance on how to escape the cycle I'm in. I work at a shitty retail job, and been here for a year only to get a .10¢ raise.
I've been trying to trade options on the side with what money I can to build extra capital. I've had good runs, like flipping $100->$1000 bucks into like 10-20k, but bad risk management still left me blowing up. Anyway, I luckily don't pay rent, but the environment with my family member has turned pretty toxic, and I need to move out.
I've been pretty terrible with education, and can't seem to be consistent. Been looking into alternatives like getting IT certifications, or my compTIA as a start or an entry level service job.
mattyanon Admin 1y ago
Trading like this won't make you money unless you really fucking know what you're doing. Don't bank on it to dig you out, it'll lose you more than it gains.
Get a better job, or get a side gig,, or both.
Learn to stick at things - you need to get good at things that you can charge for, and that means getting very good at something. And that takes dedication. Pick something you're interested in and passionate about, and work FUCKING HARD.
sombre77 1y ago
Try learning a trade. Plumbing, electrician, mechanic. There are many trade schools around.
No-Stress-Cat 1y ago
Trade school. You'll be making 6 figures or more, and always be in demand.
Impressive-Cricket-8 1y ago
+1 for trade school. However, two things you should keep in mind:
You HAVE to learn how to manage your money, otherwise you'll be blowing through whatever you make. See those 50 y.o. women living in huge houses and having one or two international vacations per year who go broke the moment she loses her job? That's because, while they were well paid, they too were living paycheck to paycheck. So, learn how to manage your money, live well below your means, and put the extra money into something safe for a rainy day.
Overkill_Engine Endorsed Contributor 1y ago
This is the most important thing. Your earning potential means jack and shit if you just spend it all with nothing to show for it. Long term plan should be get investments whose dividends are hard to track or tax because the grasshopper tier women WILL try to knock on your door come winter and will send jackbooted thugs from daddy gov to kick it in and take your shit if they know you have something they can take to fuel their irresponsible consumption.
And on the very long term timeline a chunk of arable land where you can produce untracked and untaxed resources and otherwise be not abjectly dependent on society is probably going to be a good idea with how things are going.
Problematic_Browser 1 1y ago
This is so accurate.
I know so many of these women - they rely on the generosity of men in order to simply survive. I had one tell me, in passing, "oh I don't have any food at the house". She was expecting me to have sympathy. I told her ass to go to Kroger.
Victor 1y ago
Even if you make 100k, with today's inflation it's actually still difficult to save.
Only real way to actually save I'd actually living WELLLL below your means and earning even more than 100k. Or wait for inflation to go back down.
Nah it's just fucked
benzino 1y ago
yeah, where I live things are pretty fucked. Bubbles threatening to burst. Economy going down steadily. I still have a job but companies just don't hire people above 35 so going solo/ remote seems to be the only way.
Living WELLLL below means is a sound advice, though I find it so difficult to do. I could live on like 10$ a week, but that was when I was dead broke and had no other choice. But it is one of the things that's actually in my control
Gilles 1y ago
Trade school is probably your best option, if you want a high paying job without putting yourself in massive debt.
Maturin_nj 1y ago
You need a skill that has value in the marketplace. Learn a marketable skill starting tomorrow. One if the trades with a lot of effort on your part will make you money.
Forget the follow you passion bullshit and side hustle nonesense. You will continue to spin your wheels with options trading but hey its the dream that holds most in. We'd all be billionaire traders if it weren't for the losses. Stevie Cohen made his big money in the early days off inside info. Trading is a racket. Goldman sachs is trading off info youll never have. So stick to your stochastics bullshit. Floor trading was a huge racket that most people have no understanding how those pretty dumb parasites made big money at times.
Maturin_nj 1y ago
I'm a retired lawyer. People sought out my services when they were fucked and scared. The client was a conduit between me and the insurance company from whom I could squeeze for money that I knew was there. I got 1/3 of all those payouts. That's one way of making money. I was self employed not working for a joker attorney who paid me a wage. In time I ran over most of my competition because I didnt like them much when i had little bargaining power starting out. . No one ever said oh yeah I know maturin, he's a nice guy.
If I was 28 years old I'd probably specialize in a trade. Far less competition. Work my ass off for 2 years learning everything i can. Stop speculating in bullshit like options. Go off on my own after 2 years as independent. Build it up with a few tradesman under me in time. Turning the trade into a business.
First-light 2 1y ago
As the guys are all saying -get a trade. You will never starve. It takes a while to collect clients if you work as your own business but if you treat them well, they stay and soon you will be turning more people away than you accept as clients.
Consider the unhealthy aspects of the trades and decide which one to go for. None is perfectly injury free because of repeated movements and you will be stuck with the one you choose. Consider your body type and any overuse injuries you have had in sport..
Just pay into a pension early and hard. You will thank yourself for that when you are older and less fit.
TRPAdviceGuy 1y ago
To break out of living paycheck to paycheck, especially given your context of struggling with traditional education and a challenging family environment, a focused, disciplined strategy is needed. Here’s a plan based on The Red Pill philosophy, which emphasizes self-reliance, pragmatism, and strategic action:
Prioritize Financial Independence: First, stabilize your financial situation. Since you have had some success with options trading, consider approaching this with a more disciplined risk management strategy. Learn from reliable financial education resources—not get-rich-quick schemes. Focus on building a small but steady additional income without the high risk of blowing up your account.
Shift to a Skilled Trade or Certification: Given your interest in IT certifications like CompTIA, pursue this aggressively as it can lead to more stable and lucrative job opportunities. IT fields often value skills over traditional educational credentials. Begin with entry-level certifications such as CompTIA A+ or Network+, which can lead to immediate job opportunities in tech support or network administration.
Develop Marketable Skills: While pursuing certifications, also focus on building skills that are in high demand. Learn basic coding, cloud services, or cybersecurity fundamentals. Resources like Coursera, Udemy, or Codecademy can provide affordable training.
Create a Strict Budget: Implement a rigorous budgeting strategy. Track every dollar you earn and spend. Use budgeting apps like Mint or YNAB to see where you can cut expenses and maximize savings. Since you don’t pay rent, allocate a significant portion of your income to savings or investments that are stable.
Seek Higher Paying Jobs: Even with entry-level certifications, start applying for IT jobs. Look for roles in tech support, data center maintenance, or junior network admin positions. These roles often offer better pay and benefits compared to retail.
Plan Your Exit Strategy: Given the toxic home environment, plan your move carefully. Save a portion of your income towards a deposit on your own place. Ensure you have enough saved to cover emergencies once you move out.
Network Strategically: Leverage every opportunity to network within the IT industry. Attend tech meetups, join online forums, and connect with professionals on LinkedIn. Networking can often lead to job opportunities that are not advertised publicly.
Stay Disciplined and Consistent: Red Pill philosophy would emphasize the importance of discipline in your daily habits. Stay consistent in your efforts towards certification, job searching, and financial management. Avoid distractions that lead to inconsistent behaviors or spending.
Focus on Long-Term Goals: Keep a clear vision of your long-term goals. Whether it’s financial independence, a stable IT career, or moving out, every action should contribute towards these goals.
By implementing these steps, you are not just escaping the paycheck-to-paycheck cycle; you are building a foundation for long-term financial stability and career success. This strategy requires commitment and resilience, but it’s structured to yield substantial improvements in both your professional and personal life.
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Problematic_Browser 1 1y ago
The battle most people have isn't income, it's outflow.
First thing first, do you have a budget? If you don't, you'll never get off the treadmill - every increase in income you make will have an equivalent match in outflow.
Second, there are three routes that you can take:
Education - this is a risky one depending on what you choose to study. If you pick a useless degree program then you're just tossing money in the shitter.
Military - risky as well, because if you do it wrong you're just wasting your life. I took this route, but I milked them for every benefit I could get my hands on.
whytehorse2021 1y ago
Fuck IT. I tried that and got fucked. Massive layoffs and no end in sight. If I were as young as you I'd go straight into the military. Sign up for a job where you learn a trade. You can do your 4 years and get the GI bill. After that do reserves and you'll get a full pension in your late 40s. Add to that 20 years of a lucrative trade like diesel mechanic and you're set. Plus SS when you hit 65 or whatever.