I've just started bachata and salsa and I've seen quite the same people go at these social dance clubs or festivals and many times these people are dancers themselves and go to other dancer's schools.
The only problem is that there are A LOT of older women, which I fucking hate with a passion because they are old ass harpies who want to lead, fucking millennial and over 37 trash bags that step on your fucking toes just to lead. Did I mention they are also insufferable and really get on your nerves when they see you dancing with younger chicks? Anyway.
So my questions are:
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How do I get better easily and what is the point of which I know I can go to a dance night and dance with strangers. I allocated 1 hour daily for practice and beat sync.
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Are these harpies intentionally putting themselves anywhere you go, doesn't matter if it's a beginner, intermediate or advance group class, just to have access to the young guys?
- I've heard that there's a lot of hate coming from the people in this dance scene/groups, they are constantly backstabbing each other
Vermillion-Rx Admin 2y ago
VRX Social Dance Guide | Part I (Game) see the FAQ
Yes. I just avoid them.
Yes. Lmfao. Worse than high school. Be high value, generally helpful, honest about your intentions, and cordial with every man you meet and every woman you fuck and very few people will be able to scalp you.
Many men will be jealous if you become dance Chad but if you are the above traits they will not be able to scalp you. I have had numerous men who hate me for being there at all and better than them have to buckle under the reality that they can't win. I am popular with probably 70% of people there because I did everything right. I've pulled an excessive amount of regulars there and none of them have injured my reputation and my exes and just about every girl I've ever pulled still tries to spam me with attention.
Why? Because I did almost everything right. I've actually fucked up massively a few times and still walked away unscathed because of massive halo effect and value. This means sacrificing some red pill ego because the political nature of how to get along and achieve concessions from people (for example you can't use hard nexts on women there because you will see them again, so some RP ways of doing things goes by the wayside). You also also can't use amoral sexual strategies (lying to get pussy/spinning plates while concealing the fact) because you will get scalped for doing so and everyone will hate you.
lambOfGod 2y ago
I've read it and I thank you for it. A no bullshit guide, straight to the point. Provided good value for me and I will revisit it in the future.
Vermillion-Rx Admin 2y ago
Glad it was helpful man, much appreciated feedback
GoldToEverything 2y ago
Just read your guide. Well written my man. All of it applies to Latin dance (which I do).
Vermillion-Rx Admin 2y ago
Thank you, glad it was helpful man
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GoldToEverything 2y ago
I'm a bachata and kizomba dancer. 24, picked it up when I was 21 during the pandemic. Fucked a few older women ranging from late 20s, mid 30s, to one 52 year old MILF who became a long-standing FWB in the dance scene. One of them was my dance instructor as well lol.
Indeed, there can sometimes be a lot of older women in some events. 9 times out of 10 they are divorced, bored, or just leftovers.
The bigger festivals and social dance nights usually have more younger women. You usually figure out which ones are which. It's good to dance with the older women though (I make a point to even dance with the ones who are obviously unattractive, not even the MILF types) - just because 1) sometimes they are good dancers 2) optics...it looks better if you dance with "everyone" rather than only the hot young girls 3) sometimes no one else is available.
In response to your questions...pick one dance instructor/school and start attending their classes. Focus on the fundamentals, musicality, rhythm, keeping beat, and actually listening to the music. Don't learn choreography, social dancing is all freestyle. Don't worry at all about fancy schmancy moves. Seriously. 95% of social dancing is just having the fundamentals in check. I have very strong fundamentals and good musicality which the girls always give me compliments for. For my bachata - I have like 3 or 4 moves that I do, a few basic turns, spins, etc., but I do it well and can play with the music. I can dance at any social dance night in the world, and I'm not even that good. Seriously. Bangkok, Singapore, Australia, London, Paris, Auckland - I've been able to find random bachata/kizomba social nights, just rock up by myself, dance, have a good night, and leave.
I took about 8 weeks of classes (once / twice a week), and immediately started going to the socials (once or twice a week at the start). The 8 weeks basically set up my dance style, and it hasn't changed for the last 3 years lol. I'm not out to become a fucking competitive dancer, just the easy 80% that's needed to be slick enough to go to socials and impress/dance with girls. The rest of it is diminishing returns if you ask me.
Cliquish behaviour happens sometimes between schools, between dancers - I try to avoid all of that. So I'm aware of optics, how I'm perceived. Just a young dude trying to enjoy his dancing ;) and if I can pull some chicks on the sly why not? Everyone looks at everyone in the dance scene, so this is one of the drawbacks. If you or a chick start fucking, or start having a lot of dances together/rocking up together at socials - people notice. Just be mindful.
I had to take a step back from the dance scene because my MILF FWB started mate guarding hard/super fucking jealous especially when I dance with the hotter younger girls - so that put me out of the scene for a while. I'm slowly getting back into it now.