I‘ve been single for quite a while and have been dating lots. ONS, situationships or almost LTRs, I‘ve experienced them all.
Problem is, I find myself feeling guilty breaking it off with girls, like real bad.
Example: I had 2 dates with this one chick, we ended up having sex twice and now I don‘t want to see her again, at all. I told her that I have no intentions seeing her again and she was shook, talking how she doesn‘t reconize me anymore (I guess post-nut-clarity hit real bad).
Even though I don‘t care what they think about me afterwards, I always feel guilty during the process of the „breakup“. I‘m conflicted whether I should always be 100% truthful, whereas I think this approach usually doesn‘t get me the sex I want or the things I seek in women, but ultimately „hurting“ them is making me feel bad.
I know they could be fucking a new guy within a day, but I guess me not living with full integrity makes me doubt whether I do the right thing.
I‘ve actually quit dating due this and would love some insight.

Vermillion-Rx Admin 1y ago
Sexual strategy is amoral (even how women do it)
That being said you shouldn't feel guilty, unless of course you are a liar. If you're telling girls they could be in a relationship with you some day etc when you have absolutely no intention of being in a relationship with them, then yes that's messed up.
If you're being straight with them when they start asking relationship questions then you have nothing to feel bad about. You're a man, you get h0rny, you have needs, and it's not your job to get a relationship it is theirs (for a variety of evolutionary and logical social reasons).
You're just playing your part in the machine. And unlike them, you cannot get pussy on a whim. They can load tinder and probably fuck a guy in an hour of being on it or less and have 20 something guys to do this with minimum in half a day. You can't. Don't feel guilty for getting what you can get as a man.
As a man you have to jump through hoops, be a performer, be the right guy right time right place trifecta, maintain your value, outer game, and inner game even if you feel like absolute shit. You have a hundred biological and social variables working against you, and have to put on your best face even if your life feels shitty, just to have any success at all.
Women can be openly miserable, have little value, put on their worst face on their worst days, wear sweatpants and a baggy hoodie without their hair done in all of their bathroom selfies, or even have their face blurred out and still get laid.
Don't feel bad EVER for being an honest and straight shooter in meat market where the deck is stacked against you and you take what you can win. You earned all of those lays, don't act like you did them a disservice. They had hundreds of men to fuck who they could have vetted for more long term interest but they chose your dick for the tingles, and they got the tingles.
If they want a relationship they can find one. They chose tingles instead of commitment. They lied in the bed they made. That is not your fault, you gave them what they were looking for. If she willingly spread her legs for you and went home with you then you gave her what she wanted. They're adults they can say no to the things they don't want
Never feel guilty for being a man living with the circumstances that are bonded to the existence of being a man in this lopsided fucked up world.
EurasianChad 1 1y ago
Well said.
Vermillion-Rx Admin 1y ago
Thank you
moneymakingmitch 1y ago
Thank you, this was a very good read. I think I need to reflect more on it and try to do it better next times.
Vermillion-Rx Admin 1y ago
No problem man. It's all about perspective
mattyanon Admin 1y ago
ESPECIALLY how women do it.
Vermillion-Rx Admin 1y ago
Incidentally i was going to edit to that
coolsocks00 1 1y ago
Ehh.. some girls can make me feel this way too, but you get over it. If you think having a talk about it in person with someone you barely really know is a waste of time, then you can do a slow fade out of communication, like practically every other normal person does.
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redpillretard 1y ago
It's fine to feel this, don't worry about it and don't let it rule your life.
redhawkes 2 1y ago
You're suffering from slave morality.
TRP and the sexual strategy is amoral. That guilt comes from shame, probably instilled to you by globohomo mainstream media. Guilt, shame and honor are number one manipulation tactics women use when everything else fails. Learn to recognize the pattern.
She's an adult and fully capable of making her own choices. Don't cockblock yourself. You don't need to let your autism shine (overt talk), just play the game. As the other guy said, fade them gradually. They sure as fuck don't give a shit about stringing orbiters and betas, you shouldn't either.
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No-Stress-Cat 1y ago
You're human. Of course you're going to have certain feelings about girls you like. Just don't let it get you down. Recognize that it's all part of the mating game. Girls come and go. You don't have to feel guilty because the next guy to take care of her needs is just around the corner. She's got a phone FULL of orbiters ready to jump at the chance! She's not going to be lonely for too long, and NEITHER SHOULD YOU!
moneymakingmitch 1y ago
I agree, I know girls have pick and choose but I feel pressured when girls tell me how much they‘ve liked me or usually don‘t really meet guys like me - and then I have to let them down.
I see this is all hot air, she can have this connection with another guy immediately, but it still affects me in a way. I‘ll try to build more abundance and don‘t try to do hurtful things unnecessary.
Problematic_Browser 1 1y ago
You're a nice guy.
Kill him.
You're over here feeling bad about breaking it off with women because you have empathy. You're thinking "how would I feel if it were happening to me?"
Here's the thing my guy - women don't do that. They don't give a single fuck about the feelings of men, so why should you care about theirs?
To put in in a context that you might understand, imagine working at a job and they fire you with no notice. Do you think the company considered your feelings or needs? Why the fuck would you give them the courtesy of a 2 weeks notice?
Vermillion-Rx Admin 1y ago
This. Men who feel guilty about breaking things off with women completely forget the fact that if they hadn't, and instead she had been the one to do it eventually, she wouldn't give half a shit.
She'd not only be self-assured, even in doing it harshly with loose ends, but all her girlfriends would be cheering it on too. She would be savage
You have to go out on top as a man. It's easier to feel bad for even a microsecond about it after even a moment's hesitation to do it than it is to be on the receiving end of a heartless ending from her.
Durek_The_Bald 1y ago
We often say: "Don't listen to what they say, watch what they do".
But sometimes, when it's convenient for you, you definitely should listen to what they say. And what they say is, they're strong and independent.
So don't worry about it. They can handle it.
Lone_Ranger 3 1y ago
Love it. They are also fond of telling us that:
So go ahead, just give it to them straight.
Lone_Ranger 3 1y ago
From reading your post - it sounds like you nutted in her, and then said, "I don't want to see you again". Yeah, that might have lead to her being "Shook".
Not emotionally. Just shook from realising your utter total lack of humanity and empathy, probably due to you being a sperg.
Traditionally, you don't just nut in a girl, wipe your cock on the blankets, and then say 'I don't want to ever see you again'.
It's more normal to let them down gently. Leave her on read. Withdraw a bit. She'll get the message. Let them down gently.
moneymakingmitch 1y ago
You‘re right, it was literally something like this. Fucked twice, saw her next day and told her I don‘t wanna see her again.
I think I should‘ve approached it the way I‘ve read it here, slow withdrawal and texting less, transitioning to letting her down via text. I feel like I have to end it always asap and never wanted to pursue her any longer when I know deep down I have no desire to see her anymore at all, I guess I get stressed when she would text me hoping to see me more.
Lone_Ranger 3 1y ago
I see posts like this quite often, where the guy is saying some variation of 'I feel really bad about pumping and dumping'.
I think they overestimate just how 'emotionally invested' these chicks were in them. Because chicks like to put on a show when they get dumped.
It's usually all crocodile tears. Read about 'lightswitch effect' in the side bar. Woman are very apt at simply switching the affections to someone else, whom they think will be a better 'target'.
It's usually men that spend years broken heartedly yearning for their 'oneitis'. Women don't really do that. They go straight out to the bar the next evening and get laid, very easily. There is always some more cock and some more orbiters and S worders to help them get over it.
EurasianChad 1 1y ago
Interesting post. Are you feeling guilty because you can't fuck them anymore? Or because you've hurt another human?
If you've been honest - never promised a relationship or love - you've been principled the entire way. If she catches feelings, you're under no obligation to commit because of that.
moneymakingmitch 1y ago
Definitely because I‘ve hurt another human, I really do not care about the sex aspect as I can get it within a few weeks of using online dating platforms.
I never told her I want anything romantically or long term, I even told her I am dating other people; but I don‘t know, it‘s always been very hard for me cutting it off.
EurasianChad 1 1y ago
You definitely have more empathy in you. Nothing wrong with that, but it will make things like this naturally more difficult. Understand this aspect of yourself and then calibrate your relationships accordingly. You don't have to sleep with women ASAP. You can be selective. In fact, I'd recommend it.
I personally would never stay in a relationship in which I feel guilted into.
mattyanon Admin 1y ago
You don't have to give ANY reason...... but I'd suggest sticking to things that are true and unfixable and yet not personal. (If it's fixable, she'll negotiate...... "ok ok, I'll brush my teeth before dates, now can we get married?")
Remember that girls never ever give true reasons for breaking up...... "I don't feel it anymore" / "We don't have chemistry anymore" / "I love you but I'm not in love with you"...... what kind of fucking bullshit is this. And they certainly don't say "I want someone else". Instead they just lie to try and avoid conflict and even worse than that: they blame the guy for her lack of interest / fidelity.
So don't give any reason....... just say "we're breaking up, I don't feel that we're right for each other". Use "we" a lot, and say things like "not right" and "incompatible" and the classic "I'm not feeling it". No girl wants to be with a guy who isn't feeling it for her.
And for the love of god don't feel guilty: women gain from dating, and men are paying. If you happen to win one with a girl who wins 99.9% of her intersexual encounters, you shouldn't feel guilty for a microsecond.
Intrepid_Place53900 1 1y ago
she's pissed because she had sex with you, she wanted more, you didn't.
Having sex that early, within the first, second,third date, you don't know anything about each other.
If she had sex with you, and regrets it because it didn't turn into something. That's on her.
What I actually tell young women, if you don't want to get a High N count, something that most men are concerned with when viewing a LTR. Then get to know the guy before you sleep with him. 2-3 dates is not much.
We all get this, and understand it. Women are just rolling the dice. They find a guy who's fun or hot and they jump into bed. Then it doesn't work out and he's the bad guy. Note, even if she breaks it off, he's the bad guy. Have any of you heard that it was "her" fault, not "his"?
so, don't feel bad about it.
I would tell girls, I"m interested in a LTR, which I was. But it doesn't mean that I'm going to see you as a LTR, it takes time to figure out if you are compatible. If she sleeps with me early on, well, women control who they fuck.
First-light 2 1y ago
I know how you feel. I have stayed in relationships because I have not wanted to hurt someone who I felt depended on me.
Women are amoral in their sexual strategy. They just don't see past what is good for them and their children, while men have been raised from the start to take care of the vulnerable of a wider group. She is at the time you break up with her trusting that you will make her happy and you go and spoil it all for her.
There is no easy answer but its always worse the longer you leave it.
The one way you can make it work (usually) is to stop spinning the plate. When you stop spinning, unless its in the first few months of intoxication, briffault's law will usually make her step away. When I look back at my life, its always when you stop spinning. While you carry on, she carries on.