Bouncing between Bumble and tinder, recently updated my photos and bio and suddenly I'm seeing success on it.
Realizing a lot of bios are vague and bland and I never know what to start a conversation with. I just hey for the attention and eventually come up with something stupid.
No meet ups happened yet. I suck at texting with women.

Vermillion-Rx Admin 2y ago
Guys have used my comment guide a while ago and I've gotten some guys laid with it off OLD
But you also shouldn't use it if you can't bring words together, I've also seen guys who have no business texting women bomb it. Use at your discretion, I've gotten a lot of dates from it
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dongking 2y ago
That's cope dude.
4 months of OLD results for me: https://ibb.co/kBkjwzD
Resulted in 10+ fucks with hotties aged 18-25 with very little effort from my side. Some even came directly and rang on my door without meeting prior.
OLD is dependant alot on location and obviously your profile and looks as a man. Good location and good looking man = OLD is very good.
To OP:
It doesn't matter what you write on OLD as first msg. My standard message is "hey, how's it going?" or something like that. When they find you hot and as a top option they will give you enough to work with anyways.
I typically write 10-20 msgs back n forth on Tinder, some good ping pong, witt and light negs before switching over to Snap or Whatsapp. Send a few msgs/photos back and forth for a day or two then set up a meet up maximum 2 days away. Either a drink at bar that's walking distance from my place, just go for a short walk around my area or they come directly to my house.
Acela_nextel 2y ago
What kind of pics do you have on your profile?
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dongking 2y ago
As I said, that depends on the location. I live in Scandinavia. ALL women are on Tinder. There is no difference to venues and Tinder in terms of quality.
Vermillion-Rx Admin 2y ago
Not sure why you're shitting on old. Some times it's just fun to get an easy low effort lay on old.
You are waaaaaaaayyyyy too fixated on status. A lot of us just use old for fun and don't care to have a fun night out (or in) where we get to get some new experiences, see new parts of town, refine our game, etc. not everything is about status chasing for high value women
Do you even have fun in life dude? Or is everything this serious when it comes to women?
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Vermillion-Rx Admin 2y ago
I can see your point but some times a dude just wants to have fun
MrSupreme 2y ago
OLD is so different from place to place.Ive used some apps on Panama and here in Venezuela, and its not usually for chatting, mostly for asking her Whatsapp and then you chat around there.
I can only imagine what guys in the USA and Europe have to go through.From what I've seen you have to be a complete clown,full bozo mode with a punchline and all to capture entitled sluts attention for a nanosecond.
Vermillion-Rx Admin 2y ago
Not at all, you just need a certain SMV but more importantly good photos showing a good lifestyle
I KNOW I have mid tier photo sand still get a fair amount of attractive matches. Most men have absolutely dog shit photos that they genuinely think look good
coolsocks00 1 2y ago
You should check out some opener examples and tips on how to avoid the «friend» frame.
Try the channel «playingwithfire» on YT.
mattyanon Admin 2y ago
Success = Penis In Vagina.
You need to not fall into the trap of thinking that messaging and validating women with your time and energy is in any way "success".
It isn't. It's wasting your time and energy, and you are pumping up the ego of timewasters who are FUCKING SOMEONE ELSE.
It's a myth that a woman will be comfortable and attracted to you because of 25 witty texts you sent her. It's a myth perpetuated by women, FOR women.
You can send 300 texts and then you try and meet up, and she'll still say "but I hardly know you".
You cannot gain attraction nor comfort over text. If she's attracted she'll wanna meet you.
Avoid timewasters by meeting up. If she says "but I hardly know you", she's a timewaster, and she'll trot out the "but I hardly know you" after 500 more text messages, so at least you're saving yourself time.
Three messages. Then meet for cofffee. Filter out the timewaster.
Penis in vagina = success.
Texting attention whores = failure.
dongking 2y ago
Nah. That's bad advice and won't work at all with younger women in this day and age.
Aren't you one of the older chaps here? i.e. very little or probably zero experience/success on OLD? Probably best not to comment on those topics at all then.
mattyanon Admin 2y ago
Don't just criticise.... offer another perspective.
yes
Fair chunk of OLD experience including dating younger women
Word of advice for ya, youngster: avoid ad hominem attacks, learn to make points rather than trying to undermine others, and learn to respect people.
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And now you're going to write something back that is the exact opposite of my suggestion above, because your ego compels you to do so. And then you get banned. Or you could apologise. Good luck.
dongking 2y ago
I've already done that in this thread.
Ok, seems odd you give that sort of advice then when it's not rooted in reality.
It is not ad hominem. Lmao.
Why should I apologize? If anyone should apologize it's you; for giving shitty ass advice on a topic you have little to no knowledge on.
If you have a fragile ego and tend to get emotional in arguments, you probably should not be a mod here.
mattyanon Admin 2y ago
Read up on what "ad hominem" means and then read your post again.
Learn to respect people on here rather than attacking them.
Consider this your last warning.