Im not talking about the beta version. I mean, I think in TRP its understated that you need to actually treat them good. Amongst being this stoic high value adventurous man of course.
For example I have destroyed a good LTR of mine in the past, a lot of problems from both her and I. But when i look at myself, I saw that I didnt treat her super "good" with my actions/decisions even though I actually treated her good IN PERSON when we were together. Like I was "too alpha", didnt take her on enough dates, was too mysterious to where she got jealous/insecure, didnt get her enough gifts (nothing expensive but just bf/gf stuff), made super swift and harsh decisions without giving proper warnings which made me seem cold and strict, etc.
Ive self-reflected and saw that i snatched defeat out the jaws of victory. She was submissive and we had a good dynamic, she was always pleasant, good sex got to her head and she got jealous and i dreaded her too much on accident, etc... All I had to do was FULFILL the very simple RELATIONSHIP needs: dates, buy her a teddy bear here or there, photos, maybe a cheesy corny letter or something "cute" that boyfriends need to do..
Ever since then I have had good success with my LTR's after her. Im still the same 'high value' man that naturally runs too alpha, but ive learned to purposely be more "beta" with girls i intend to keep or am interested in LTR's.. When they piss me off i dont chew them out or call them out, without proper warning/build up, i dont go radio silent over every little minor violation, etc.
Im much more patient and affectionate and give compliments, instead of acting like this DADDY DOMINANT all the time, (Only in the bedroom), I find it wields me better results.
My current LTR-in-the-making was on a bit of bullshit the past few weeks but i stayed stoic and didnt overthink and pull the trigger of punishing her or threatening to leave, and instead remained patient and 'unphased/amused' and now the bullshits gone like a rough storm. In the past I wouldve fumed over it and out the blue sent a bad message implying i was leaving (instilling dread) in my past LTR's if the bullshit got too much.
So that being said, what does it actually mean to treat a girl right? In redpill terms.
EurasianChad 1 1y ago
To treat her the way you would treat a child had it been behaving good.
You do not give a child a lollipop after it burns it's toy playing with fire, and risking a house fire. You punish it.
You give a child a lollipop when it gets good grades in school, or wins an award for being top soccer player. You reward it when it trains hard for its amateur chess tournament. Rewarding the behavior brings out positive reinforcement - likely to repeat said behavior. Punishing bad behavior, negative reinforcement - less likely to repeat said behavior.
Now comes the morality aspect, which is now in your hands. Which behaviors will you reward, which will you punish? With great power they say, comes with great responsibility.
Hope I've helped.
EurasianChad 1 1y ago
For me in a ltr - she cooks for me 1 week straight: reward with cute romantic date.
She massages me every night + bj whenever I want = gets a nice flower at the end of the month.
Mix up the rewards. Mix up the punishment.
I don't tell her these things. She will come to those conclusions herself.
Lone_Ranger 2 1y ago
So that being said, what does it actually mean to treat a girl right? In redpill terms?
For me, that has always been to treat them like a responsible grown up. Don't let them play the 'woman card'. For example,
Dxmx99 1y ago
From my understanding there is game and there's LTR game.
Game is the basics you read here, push pull kino Isolate escalate. You don't treat them bad but you don't simp over them. You sexualize the relationship to them almost immediately and avoid entering the FZ.
LTR game would be where you treat them "right", you have to maintain the alpha for your sake by being attractive, gaming, and generally keeping them in their submissive energy.
Then there's the providing, comfort, and occasionally romantic shit.
The only time you treat them bad is when they are bad aka not submitting, rejecting sex, not behaving in respectable ways towards you.
That's when you dread, demote, ignore, etc. They get what they give to you.
That's where I'm at in my current understanding.
Vermillion-Rx Admin 1y ago
Being a good person without being NEEDY or validation seeking
Being good as necessary, not as some kind of contractual favor that is intended to curry favor from her.
The kind of difference between giving a girl your coat because she is shivering versus trying to give her your coat just because she stepped outside
Are you doing something for her because it's need-based or because you want her to develop a certain perception? Does the thing you're doing incur a loss of something to you that is undeserved or supplicating? Is the effort of something you do for her disproportionate to the situation at hand? Would any good or reasoned person do something for her or are you just doing it because you like her?
Doing things because they are reasonable for the situation and not to get her favors is treating a woman right.
MrSupreme 1y ago
The whole concept of "treat me right" sounds like romanticizing bullshit learned from pop music and culture. Be kind,don't be absolutely an asshole,just some of the times to establish frame and then some more
Bagpipes 1y ago
Nah man, i thought so too. But i lost women this way. I have come to terms im 'too alpha' and have an asshole edge to me. Its attractive, but could be toxic.
YMMV, but for me personally, Ive found that doing nice things (contextual) builds genuine attraction with prospects imo. And not the beta kind.
I just wish i did it sooner. But it certainly helps im buff and menacing looking with tats, so i think the nice gestures add some depth to me and gives em tingles, whereas me being mean and looking the way i look, just makes them feel rejected or not good enough and it kills attraction.
I look the opposite of a nice guy, so yeah. I think if you look and act like a classic nice guy then it could backfire. I think I learned the asshole edge from TRP tbh.. I never needed it because it was natural for me. I needed to learn to be nicer with girls, haha. But dont get it twisted, im not a dick or abusive, just give em too much dread and make em feel inferior to me.
coolsocks00 1 1y ago
As you're mentioning here, there's always a passive dominance factor at play. It's just like with sex: If you have a big dick, that provides passive dominance in itself, and you dont have to do as much active dominance as a result. Your behaviour matters less in establishing dominance.
If you dont have a big dick, you will be compensating in order to get the same outcomes. Inversely, if you're passively dominant you may have to compensate in order to build comfort.
The point here being that, while we know which factors come into play, the advice on dosages should be individually adjusted.
coolsocks00 1 1y ago
Giving them the good D