First off...Holy shit, this shit (TRP) actually works and it's the first time I've actually put into practice my years of reading material/FR's/and SMV come into play...WOW
Background:
Been talking to an 18 year old, (I'm in my mid twenties) didn't quite seal the deal on the first date (logistics issue FR post).
As a result however, she kinda realized things were going a bit fast for her, and she pushed for the "commitment" conversation, before sex. She wrote a whole ass paragraph about her just turning 18, and wants to know I won't pump and dump her/just use her for sex, and how she wants to know it's something more.
I told her that sex is a big part of commitment to me (thank you TRP), and that I wouldn't want to be in a relationship if we weren't fucking. As a result she went radio silent when I told her that lol. If it were the old me, I probably would have pussied out and been a bitch and said ok to her ultimatum.
Since that text, I kinda ignored it, pushed for more dates to see her under the guise that we can talk about it in person and been trying to physically escalate, and trying to get steamier makeout+petting sessions each time.
Yesterday, however, I asked to see her again and after a intense make out session she asked about the question again. I held frame again, and said that:
S: "sex is, and isn't a big deal to me, I wouldn't want to pressure you into doing something you're not comfortable you're doing, but if we're going to be exclusive it's something I need, to see if we're compatible/being exclusive"
Must have worked, because gawdamn, she took a second to process it said okay, then went back to making out lol. She then flipped a switch and accepted a previous invite for her to come over on Sunday to smash before church LOL.
Anyway, do you think I fucked up by trying to push for more dates/wanting to see her in person? It's the first time I've been in this position, and it's insanely intoxicating for me. Kinda seems like I'm witnessing how holding frame, and having a higher SMV forces a woman to accept my terms in fear of losing me.
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financehardo420 Should i (x1) 1y ago
Okay here we go… so many problems with this entire post. If i come off as being mean I’m not it’s just tough love broski.
1) you’re in your mid 20s… and you’re talking to an 18yo. no abundance; seems like she’s the only bird you’re talking to which literally goes against every major concept in red pill. oneitis for an 18yo you’re not even smashing… yikes. U need damage control Badly.
2) it’s supposed to be the girl pressuring you for exclusivity and shit. She’s 18….. and if I were a betting man I’d bet my left but that this “talking” phase hasn’t even lasted a month yet….. but you’re entertaining conversations of exclusivity. This tells me you have no abundance, get next to zero puss; and I have no clue how you even pulled this 18yo. Did you show up in a white van with a sign that says free candy? Lol.
3) kinda ranting rn. To answer your question yes absolutely such a thing as “moving too fast” it’s a major red flag when both dudes or chicks do it. screams scarcity.
Bonus: reread the sidebar. lift more weights; spin more plates. you’ve prob never even had an LTR and I bet your body count is still in the single digits. you’re not ready to be entertaining these kinds of thoughts.
sweatybadger 1y ago
It's definitely her that's pushing for exclusivity. I told her only if we fuck LOL, we probably would have if I didn't fumble it on the first date logistically. She gave me some head and that was it
Vermillion-Rx Admin 1y ago
Oof. Negotiating relationship terms before you've even smashed.
I.e. thirst instead of genuine interest
Dude you got hit with "what are we" before you even fucked, get off your high horse
Because 3 other hoes trying to slide onto my nuts. I shoot plans to one of them and they either come over or they don't and then I go find new hoes to game or game some other hoes I'm already running game on. I spend the majority of my time on them with the running game and then a total of 10 seconds-2 minutes trying for plans with them (more minutes if you account for texting plans, which can vary in back and forth exchange)
You have one hoe (if even cause you haven't smashed yet), who's also probably naive.
I think you need to get off your high horse before you come back with a depression post for losing your oneitis and having your intoxicating reality shattered
AbusiveFather1 1y ago
ayyy lmaoo