Growing up I was tough to always be helpful and useful. If I am seeing a girl I have a natural instinct to try to help them, fix their stuff, etc. Now I realize it is beta trait.
Is this still a no go for relationships? How do you go about when girl mentions things that you know have an obvious easy fix? How do you handle these conversations? What is the middle ground?
DeeplyConcernedPhil 1y ago
No one is telling you anymore what to do.
Charge for the services as you would normally do + whatever percent for URGENT jobs.
Overkill_Engine Endorsed Contributor 1y ago
Get the candy before you get in the van.
redhawkes 2 1y ago
Ask yourself what has she done for you, always. It's the questions that makes feminist seethe.
You don't owe bitches anything. No one values free samples. Charge. Women exploit weaklings all the time, that's why they don't respect them. Your time is valuable, don't waste it. Even if it's a small amount, charge, no matter the gender.
In LTR is different, but don't give unsolicited opinions or try to fix things if you're not asked.
https://theredarchive.com/r/TheRedPill/you-owe-women-you-just-met-absolutely-nothing.64468
Einsamer 1y ago
Yes, you can. But not because it's a girl. Do it because it's a fellow human.
So always ask yourself the question: "would I help that girl if it were actually an old ugly dude?". If the answer is no, then don't help her.
timmytaliban 1y ago
OP needs to clarify what he means by “help”. I can’t tell if he’s talking about dropping RP relationship advice or just holding the door open for someone.
mattyanon Admin 1y ago
Being USEFUL makes you LESS ATTRACTIVE.
Being SUCCESSFUL makes you attractive.
Helping = paying.
It's easy to work this out. Help her. Does she fuck and suck you like a pornstar? Or is she mysteriously "tired" after you help her?
If it's an easy thing for you to do, do it...... BUT DEMAND SOMETHING BACK.
EurasianChad 1 1y ago
For women that I take more seriously but still never commit to, I'll take them to the gym with me on occasion.
That's as much as I "help" really. But I ain't saving any girl bro.
Just by association being with me and conversing with me, their mindset and self belief increases, just like how it does with the men in my circle. Their confidence goes up, and the women feel safe being with someone with physical presence and willingness to disagree if certain things aren't adhered to, God forbid boundaries crossed.
nicknack 1y ago
It won’t help you with her in any way, can only harm you; but it’s in your instinct. It might make you feel good, proud; whatever. Which has its own value.
Lone_Ranger 3 1y ago
I used to feel the same way as you. It's in our programming to white night.
@Einsamer said it best - if this was an ugly old dude, would you help him?
in fact, I think I would be inclined to help the ugly old dude more than the pretty girl with a flat tire. Because I'll be an ugly old dude one day!
You owe zero to any woman that is not actively raising your kids, or raised you when you were a baby. Get that into your head.