I am sure there are a few posts in this nature, but the last one I read was from a few years ago ; so thought I'd try a new one for a fresh perspective.
For the guys who got in shape/ripped/jacked etc ; how did it affect your life?
I am in the early stages but one thing I can't help but notice is women seem to touch me a lot more, some even almost brush up against me. Even basic transactions like handing over my credit card can lead to women touching my hands.I am not even trying, but I will have women occasionally striking up conversation ; I am tempted to go out to a bar one weekend to see what a drunk women might do! But its crazy, I've not changed much at all apart from better posture, in shape and less of a fuck given.
I'm not boasting or bragging, I've done jack shit and I'm still 50% monk mode ; but for the guys who have gone from out of shape to ripped ; some of your stories.
This is only making me more convinced to keep working out and boxing. I've gone from skinny fat to small gains/toned (I'm miles away from being jacked ; but I'm definitely toned and have definition) and the difference in female attention is night and day.
Would love to hear some war stories in here to keep me inspired.
This might sound autistic as to experienced red pillers, but since finding TRP I'm just mind blown at this.
financehardo420 2y ago
Without a doubt yes.
I’ve lived every physique imaginable… jacked to the tits, fat as fuck, skinny as fuck, skinny fat, inbetween big/lean etc.
Whenever I’m more fit looking bitches touch me more. Spot on with the hand contact stuff; even my physical therapist does it to me lol (not that I mind).
Example: went to a local restaurant bar w one of my fav bartenders from my fav restaurant/bar lol. Took my coat off wearing a pretty tight t shirt that accentuates my arms for shure. There’s a hot bartender chick there and the way she was interacting w me from when I took my coat off vs when I was in my t shirt were two entirely different worlds. Coat on she was polite n cordial but back to business. Soon as the coat came off it was “fuck me” eyes and throwing herself in my orbit until I left.
Gym is the way.
Problematic_Browser 1 2y ago
This might come as a shock, but women prefer men with muscles.
Any woman who says otherwise is straight up coping with the fact that she can't get men with muscles.
I find it disgusting that women feel like they are entitled to men's bodies - I have to routinely tell women that they don't know me well enough to be touching me.
Intrepid_Place53900 1 2y ago
(woman coping with fact she can't get men with muscles)
Mostly true.
Women know they can get a guy like that to F them. But he won't stay.
quite a few women have been burned this way, pumped and dumped and change their way. They don't go after hot guys or ignore them when hit upon. Those nasty F boys.
I know women who purposely go after men "below" them in SMV after getting dumped. They can't take rejection,etc. Or they want to be the leader (boss chic), want a guy who knows he can't get better and will stay , won't stray,etc.
Most of these guys are "nice" guys, high RMV, and $$, but below their girl in SMV.
My view, most of those guys are in for a dead bedroom. She will be the one who leaves, when she's ready.
Not sure of the RP guy who said it, but don't go after girls who are more than 1+ above you for LTR. Probably won't work out good. Ideal case is a girl who is 1 , or up to 2 SMV below you. You are chad to her.
MidgetSpinner 2y ago
I only find it disgusting when the women touching me are disgusting.
Vermillion-Rx Admin 2y ago
This answer is basically the woman seeing coworker Chad as flirting but sloppy Samuel as sexual harassment lmao
MidgetSpinner 2y ago
All the game in the world isn't going to help Sloppy Samuel, unfortunately. Dude needs to hit a gym and play less World of Warcraft if he wants perceptions to change.
Edit for noobs: Yeah, game is very important. I'm only half joking, but if you look anywhere close to resembling dogshit with hairs on it, then you're running game on hard mode. Becoming attractive puts you on easy mode.
Overkill_Engine Endorsed Contributor 2y ago
Yarp. Being swole isn't the only thing that matters, but it sure as fuck helps you get in the door to begin with.
Vermillion-Rx Admin 2y ago
I'm still bulking up but yes
I was shocked when i learned how low the bar is Simply being lean and defined will get you touched, you don't even need to be ripped or jacked
slowlylearning1 2y ago
This is the mind blowing aspect of it.
I am not particularly big yet I have naturally broad shoulders, yet biceps/triceps are basically slightly smaller than Brad Pitt in Fight Club but toned/shaped.
Once I started wearing better fitted t-shirts and jeans/trousers - also once I found this place, and started noticing the touching etc.
Just walk around your town and you'll see how low the bar is. Also, most people don't have the discipline or commitment to keep eating well (even then you can still eat shit occasionally, just most folk seem to eat it every day) and I am not particularly big, I'm toned more than anything. I never drank that much but would drink beer maybe once every few weeks but HUGE difference in energy, stomach bloat/belly by cutting alcohol down.
It comes down to commitment I think at the end of the day. And tbh, looking/feeling good is much better than eating fast food and feeling shit.
Intrepid_Place53900 1 2y ago
(simply being lean and defined will get you touched)
yup, if you get out and walk around town on a weekend night, take a look at the guys. They aren't lean or defined.
most of the guys with girls , look at me as a threat when I walk by.
No-Stress-Cat 2y ago
Also, if you shave your head bald women just have to rub it. Jacked and bald, women can't keep their hands off you.
slowlylearning1 2y ago
I've shaved my head recently. Yet to go to a bar with the new look - but my hair was thinning at the back, that I ended up wearing hats too much or having crazy ridiculous ways of trying to 'hide' my thinning hair. I guess I'll need to shave it every 5 days or so (it's that thin, yet lucky I've still got a hairline which makes me look like I shave it on purpose).
Accepting life as a bald man to me, means you can be bald or chubby - not both. So I think going bald will help keep me in shape, I don't want to look like those fat bald guys. Can't do anything about the hair, but can keep myself in shape.
Not yet had a woman rub my head, but be interesting to see if this happens - got a night out at the end of the month, haha.
If anything, I've found women telling me I look younger or commenting on my eyes. I guess it makes you look more masculine?!
Intrepid_Place53900 1 2y ago
not sure your age, but as you get into your 40's. Most Woman of same age wont' have an issue with it. Many guys by that age are thinning or considered bald.
Some will not consider, they like full head of hair, but not a big %.
1on1 2y ago
I used to be fat like 100kg(220lbs) on 178cm(5'10). I not only lost weight and got to 75kg-72kg and got six pack abs but I was working out and had muscles. My crush didnt give a damn,I was without shirt in the changing room when she walked in and she didnt even wanted to look in my direction,she was talking with other guys.When I did win arm wrestling against all boys in the class ,my gaze pass trough her direction and I catched contempt and disgust in her eyes. The girl I used to fuck when I was fat(she is 7) was shocked when I took off shirt and was comenting how good I look. One random milf about 40 years old commented how young and handsome I look ,who was working in the bookstore. One 60 years old woman said to my mother how I am very beautiful and was later talking to other people how cute I am. I noticed few times girls in the bus staring at me ,sometimes on the street. I have seen on videos from friend who was walking behind me on camera how one milf mom walking with her children and husband checked my arms and butt subtly by turning head,one girl with boyfriend looked at my biceps and one without it which was caught randomly on camera. On tinder or other online dating app I had no sucess at all matched with like 20 girls the most in 1.5 year from which half were bots,others didnt respond reponed only once or were reponding only for 10 minites and then ghosted me.
Girls definatly didn't apporach me.I trained running during that period and one girl was very rude towards me,other 31 years old woman rejected me when I asked her for a coffee,one from other team that I didnt know once while padsing by me said Hello and after that I got sick and stopped training and got fat like I used to be before. All in all I didnt noticed much.
lurkerhasarisen 1 2y ago
Women pay attention to and touch things they like more than things they don't like. No surprise there. Women like masculine men. Most guys are flabby, and flab reduces the sex appeal of both men and women, so it's easy to be above average. However, unlike with men, society allows women to touch whatever/ whomever they want with impunity.
Yeah... it's night and day.
Try wearing a military dress uniform to a place where there will be a lot of civilian women, especially if there's a party atmosphere and alcohol. In the right venue it's like fishing in a bucket... with dynamite. Like the song says, women really do love a man in a uniform. Women can get away with being very handsy to a degree even Chads can't.
timmytaliban 2y ago
Touching is one of the ultimate IOI
EurasianChad 1 2y ago
Hey man. I've always been a good looking guy facially. I'm also extremely into the aesthetics side of fitness and have been lifting for over 10 years at this point. At 6'1 I'm 175 9-10% bodyfat and look like I can be on the cover of a magazine. Whenever you walk into a room, you're respected by the men instantly. Whether they hate you or like you afterwards, respect is there. You literally embody masculinity at this point.
Women and gay people will adore you. The gay people more-so, some women will try to play it down (or maybe theyre into skinny twinks, thats cool too), but most women will definitely find you extremely attractive and you will have high sex appeal. Its easier to play the part of the fun lover guy as opposed to a provider type.
In clubs where I've gone shirtless, girls will literally approach me asking me to drink with them, girl friend finds me cute, etc. This happens when I've got a shirt on but its like they can't help it and I can't blame them when I'm shirtless. Some people will think you're a douchebag-bro type dude but who gives a fuck.
slowlylearning1 2y ago
Gay men seem to have always liked me to a certain extent.
I was in San Francisco 5 years ago (work) and ended up in a gay bar - it wasn't plastered in rainbow flags and it had a mixed crowd, I didn't realise it was a gay bar until I even googled it once we left. It looked like your average bar, and after a long day, a ripped black guy came over to me and started talking then within 5 mins he said ''is the woman a love interest?'' The co-worker I was with who had went to the bathroom, then the wheels clicked I said no, that's my girl - He shook my hands and said thank you for the chat, have a good night!
Very interesting. I'm finding women will either be in to me from the get go ; and having lived abroad in a few countries, unmarried yet still have hobbies, interests - some women almost paint me as being a mystery man etc. The ''bro dude'' vibes from especially social justice warrior types who play video games are coming too ; I am an easy going guy I treat everyone with respect, yet find they instantly look down, snipe at me or just don't like me ; or they'll overcompensate in front of attractive women and boast about how much smarter they are than me. I used to get frustrated/sad at this thinking it was something I did ; yet they just cannot handle how happier I am than them with life.
Thanks dude and all the best, you are living your best life!
slowlylearning1 2y ago
My mind is blown to this because initially I was skeptical to ''just work out bro'' message at the start of finding TRP. I thought I have tried working out aka nothing happened ; but what I used to do was go to the gym for 5 weeks then stop going. Now I make sure I go at least twice a week and if I can't go due to work trips away I'll do body weight exercises.
Any black pill/incellers out there - honestly, just do the work. I am not huge, and most likely won't ever be yet I'm toned, have 'curved' triceps/biceps that look good in a nicely fit shirt or sweater.
The key is a routine and sticking to it. Honestly, just take a look out there at how out of shape many people are today. And even if the 80-20 rule is legit ; getting in to the top 20 is achievable today - you might not be the biggest, prettiest, but if you take care of yourself, you'll have no trouble getting respect from others.
Last thing : men. Most men I find are quite respectable, friendly towards me ; but I am noticing betas, blue-haired types etc seem to give me the stink eye more than they did before when I was chubbier and wore baggier/uglier clothes. Almost like they think they are better than you without even speaking to me.
lurkerhasarisen 1 2y ago
I was with you until the end. The soibois aren't giving you the stink-eye because they think they're better than you. They're giving you the stink-eye because they know they're not.
You're above them in the SMP because you put in the work to be more masculine than they are. All the virtue signaling and "allying" doesn't inspire lust like being masculine does. Even the chicks in their woke circles would rather go home with a caveman in a MAGA hat than a man-bun wearing "ally" with a "He For She" bumper sticker on his Prius.
Virtue signaling is easy... picking up heavy things is hard.
mattyanon Admin 2y ago
This absolutely definitely is my experience. They complain about men groping them, but will go round groping attractive men when they feel like it. It's kinda instinctive and natural for them to do this, they don't see anything wrong with it..... which can be funny when you call them on it.