What takes someone to the next level? Lets assume we're talking about guys with equal Smv even though game factors in. A twin study perhaps. I've seen so many shapes and sizes pull, and I'm trying to find commonalities because they all have such different personalities and styles. '
One of the things I've been seeing is aggressiveness at the right times, but for some of them they somehow seem to turn on girls without barely even speaking just a couple words or looks, I don't know and they always manage to attract the best-looking despite them not being the best looking themselves, is it just mastery of social dynamics, inner game. Frame?
I feel like me and a lot of guys here can pull but with a tremendous amount of effort and approaches. Who knows sometimes all the information overload confuses me and I don't know if I'm getting better.
What takes bad to good and good to great.
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Vermillion-Rx Admin 1y ago
For starters, you need to remember game is a number of different components
Vibe, confidence, social intelligence, wit, passing shit test, polarization, man to woman interactions, suggestiveness, tingles, etc i don't have official categories
What takes your game to the next level is both fixing your weak points and then using then using various different elements of your game in conjunction with eachother. If you find your game is mediocre or not as effective as it could be, you're likely over relying on certain pillars of game and thus coming across as a three-trick pony and using the wrong elements of game as a stretch or a crutch when other elements for certain situations would be better in that moment
Fix your weak points and then incorporate them for the situations they are more appropriate for, or to enhance your strong points with other improved areas
Game is always more next level when you have more flexibility in your tool kit. It will keep them on their toes
The less predictable but more smooth you are the better. If women have you figured out that's it. Your game has no effect on them. If you always have a tool to use for the job that's your next level
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Vermillion-Rx Admin 1y ago
Watch Todd v.
Can't recommend his channel enough
Take some of his approach with a grain of salt but he has a point
coolsocks00 1 1y ago
He came to mind as a guy who's kinda bad at implementing this sexual dynamic. You dont look at a todd v interaction and go "this guy fucks"
Vermillion-Rx Admin 1y ago
I think Todd might exaggerated his success and he doesn't look like he fucks but he's clearly knowledgeable and taking a lot of his advice has seriously improved my game over the years, especially his content on "premise"
There are some lines he says i disregard because they seem fake and forced. Maybe it works for him, maybe the girls it works on are that easy. Idk
Either way i don't take to heart everything he says, but i find his content to be effective at communicating game dynamics
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mattyanon Admin 1y ago
A really simple one is to call her "girl". This genders the interaction and makes it feel more clear in her head that she's a girl and you're a man.
"now now girl, I never said that....." or "hey girl, here's a fun idea.....".
Vermillion-Rx Admin 1y ago
Todd has better ones.
But really anything that makes it clear you aren't platonic
"I don't know if i can handle you"
"If we keep arguing like this we're going to end up divorcing"
"Hey, I'm not that easy"
"Hey you're cute but you're moving a little too fast for me"
"I'm not that kind of guy, at least buy me a drink first "
Honestly these are kind of off the fly and probably not the best examples but really any comments that make it clear it's not a friend interaction, but rather, under a pretense of something more is man-to-woman
Can also be shit like stroking her hair. Giving her a handshake that a man would give to a "lady'" vs a business handshake. Etc.
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Vermillion-Rx Admin 1y ago
I ALWAYS handshake a woman like this
(if I'm in a social environment). If they don't, just say "don't give me a business handshake like that" if you're feeling fiesty enough to say it. (If)
TRPDuryodhana 1y ago
https://youtu.be/A2kMaApuVXU?t=65
What do you think of this one? Too aggressive? Doable socially?
Vermillion-Rx Admin 1y ago
I think that one would do more damage than good
I suppose the exception would be if someone whom she already had very high regard for that has already spoken well of you introduces you to her
But then again, if that were ever the case why bother?
Problematic_Browser 1 1y ago
Practice and understanding the shift in the market.
There are two kinds of men:
The guys who are good at game: they never had to practice, they just have some advantage or stroke of luck that lets them find success
The guys who are bad at game: these guys need to chip their teeth. They know failure more than success because they have to learn what works the hard way
Ironically, it's the guys who are bad at game who have the potential to be great - they don't have the luxury of resting on their laurels or the comfort of a friendly dating market. They have to adapt to how the dating market shifts in order to be successful. It's that ability to change that ends up causing them to outperform their more "natural" peers who do not put in the work to change what they found success in.
You see it literally everywhere - those who have a high change orientation outperform those who do not. Natural talent is no substitute for the ability to try, fail, learn, and adapt from failure. The people who have to earn it are the ones that develop new strategies, corner emerging markets, and utilize untapped resources.
Ironically, there's a book called Good to great (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_to_Great) that sort of discusses this in the business world.
Lionsmane8 1y ago
For some reason I find myself abandonning the concept of game.
The notion of game places too much impetus on you whereas whether a girl goes with you or lets you bang her is largely determined by factors outside of your control.
It also comes with the premise that you can somehow "convert" a girl into fucking with you if you use this or that pattern.
I don't like this frame because it involuntarily pedestalizes the woman and you are out there trying to gain access to her golden pussy.
I love myself too much to supplicate or placate women for sexual access.
I'd rather "interact" with women I find attractive, create a non-platonic connection (ie. sexual/romantic), figure out what's behind her sexy façade and screen for compatibility.
I'm the CEO and only shareholder of my life, looking to hire pretty things for my harem and my interactions with potential candidates are invitations to interview.