While walking to the cashier to buy some stuff from a sports equipment store, an attractive girl was walking opposite me entering the store, and with her, the monster, the ugly friend. The ugly friend had pimples, pale skin, weird body composition. She is fucked.
As I’m waiting in the checkout line, they show up again and join at the back of the line. I buy my stuff and leave.
As I am walking outside, I say to myself that I should approach the attractive looking girl. I wait for a couple minutes outside the store as it was their turn checking out. As they come out, the attractive girl was ahead of the ugly friend.
I open asking her about what she had gotten/bought. She then has this blank/puzzled look on her face. That first initial reaction you get when approaching/chatting up a girl. She smiles as she is telling me “I don’t speak English”(lie or excuse if they are unconfident in their English) Her friend comes, and the ugly bitch understands everything I’m saying, but speaking as little as possible, not trying to help with communication. I banter with them for a moment then they start walking away as we were going nowhere with ugly bitch being unhelpful.
I walk away, the attractive one chuckled as my back was facing her. I was about to mock her chuckle sarcastically loudly, but I held myself from doing so. They start walking in my direction to my side, I am steady teasing and genuinely having fun with myself, asking the attractive one what languages does she speak then. The ugly one kept steady cockblocking and was moving jealous as hell. Attractive one made a comment in Turkish I didn’t fully understand, but the tone was something that communicated “offff I’m suffering from my attractiveness”. I walk away AGAIN to take the escalator. I hear a “bye”, probably from the attractive one. They turn around and follow me AGAIN. I saw them coming down. I stop to tie my shoes(that never un-tie as I double tie them), they catch up to me. I say “wtf, are you following me?” In a teasing manner obviously. The cockblock translates. I say if they keep following me I’m going to call security. And then I said the word “security” in Turkish as I knew it. Cockblock made fun of my pronunciation.
Finally, I go down another escalator, and they continue walking to my right.
I’m the type of guy that would, if was put in the same situation again, shit on the cockblock and playfully call her out on being jealous and ugly. I’m not trying to hear advice on how I should be giving the ugly chick attention as well. Ugly friend was jealous from the get-go. She didn’t even give a chance to herself to be included in the interaction, even though she was given the chance when offered the opportunity to translate as she spoke and understood everything I said.
In my history of cold approaching, 90% of the time I tend to approach girls by themselves and the times I approached girls with a friend, who was always a girl, half the time the girl would take a step away and give her friend and I some space. The other half, they would cockblock me.
Tell me your advice and feedback.
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Redpillpusher 2 months ago
I will give you the advice u stated you don't want to hear because it's the best advice in the situation: you should have given the ugly friend attention as well. In the best case scenario, which you were in yet fumbled (if you believe it or not), you would have been able to make the uglier girl feel noticed & appreciated as a female at least somewhat equal in standing with her friend, allowing her to lower her defenses, easing the tension & allowing you to game her friend. You were in the best case scenario because the ugly girl did not overtly try to end the interaction. In fact, she translated & allowed her friend to return to you several times! The worst case scenario would have been her overtly dragging her friend away & translating absolutely nothing. In the future, learn how to read people, pick up on cues, & when opportunity arises, use your mouthpiece & not just to game the attractive 1. When a salesman is trying to sell a car to a couple, he talks to the husband & wife even though more often than not, the wife is the main target.
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Redpillpusher 2 months ago
Before anything, you should have addressed them as a group instead of just the attractive one. Instead of asking what she bought, ask what THEY bought, for example. Just refer to my car salesman example again and imagine if the car salesman basically ignored the husband and spoke overwhelmingly just to the wife. Do you think he'll sell the car? Now, you could hang applied what you quoted by posting attention to the actions of both females. Although standoff-ish, the ugly one still translated and allowed her friend to mingle and the attractive one continued to linger and banter. Thus, you can conclude that they were waiting (although reluctantly by the ugly girl) for you to ask for a number.
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Redpillpusher 2 months ago
Ahh, I see your point, I didn't know she spoke absolutely no English. In that case, I would have went straight to the point after a few moments, just asked the ugly girl to ask her friend for the #. If she didn't produce it, bail.
AbusiveFather1 2 months ago
offtop but stay away from turkish girls - they're worse than the plague
edit: same goes for their neighbors - armenia, azerbaijan, georgia even. they're usually stuck up and think themselves hot shit when even the worst looking eastern european girl (russian, ukrainean, serbian, etc) looks like sharon stone in comparison and will have a better personality
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AbusiveFather1 2 months ago
most turks i know are ultra-nationalists: if you're not turkish, don't expect her to ever truly fall in love with you. and the "love you to moon" part, if you're not turkish, is usually an act (in my experience) - be that with guys or with girls
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AbusiveFather1 2 months ago
i've lived in turkey and most of them are hairy as fuck and mongrel-looking - and they still overestimate their value. if i want darker-looking girls, i'd go for italians (lived in italy as well), greeks, or the spanish/portuguese. if i want a straight up middle-eastern looking girl, i'm going for syrians, lebanese, etc: these girls are often ridiculously hot (coptic christians, i obviously wouldn't know about muslim girls since they're covered and marriage-only) and turks, armenians, azerbaijanis often don't come close.
edit: i think it definitely has something to do with the genes. syrians are literally their neighbors, yet they look much better on average. for example, the same happens with the chinese and koreans: chinese girls look pretty bad when compared to koreans, and i'm talking pre-plastic surgery koreans.
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AbusiveFather1 2 months ago
it's like nicknack said about russians and polish girls: they're very closely related, yet russians still look better on average
edit: i dated a half-armenian, half-russian girl once. she was okay-looking and the best body parts on her were the ones inherited from the russian side. she also had to work twice as hard to keep all that hair off; at times i was scared to visit her - who knew if she'd werewolfed out in her apartment over the weekend. her personality she inherited from the armenian side: she was funny, charismatic, smart, cooked well and generally knew how to please - but she also was a horrible gossip (their people are infamous for this) and at times i felt like she was just waiting for the right moment to backstab me.
AbusiveFather1 2 months ago
(pure) russian girls will also backstab you, but, if it makes any sense, it doesn't feel like such a betrayal - they don't try to be your best friend or your soulmate, they just use you and when they do backstab you it kind of feels like you had it coming lmao
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AbusiveFather1 2 months ago
dude, back in college i was dating the hottest girl on campus (russian) - these fucking squidward-looking ass turkish mutants thought they had a shot at me, kept rolling their eyes each time i passed by them, and acting like it was I who was interested in them in the first place. if self-delusion was an olympic sport, turkish women would be the perennial gold medalists
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User4566 2 months ago
Fuck, I would have dropped it there. Walk the other way.
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Removed post due to being in the wrong forum. If you neglected to repost it with the exact text given back to you, that's a you problem