I only get satisfaction from self improvement, hanging out with my friends, travelling to new places, or trying out new things.
I graduated from university in June, and decided to go through a filthy summer. I approached loads of women. Got rejected by a lot of women, but I still had a pretty high success rate. Even though I got plenty of lays this summer, most of it felt like a waste of time. Most girls were a waste of time, would shittest non stop, or just be boring.
Had a couple of girls who were all over me during night game, only to ghost me the next day. Had old girls hit me up, trying to set up a date, while they had a boyfriend. Others girls who I've caught in lies, other girls like to play games, ... The list goes on and on. Most girls can't even cook, have no hobbies, are on their phone 24/7, have no goals, ... It seems like most of them only have sex to offer, and then they are surprised that men only use them for sex.
Feels like a waste of time. How do you guys balance all of this bullshit with your personal life? All this shit feels so exhausting. I'll start working soon, and am even wondering how I'm going to fit a rotation of 3-4 girls into my schedule. Why even bother putting up with all this bullshit? I'm seriously considering going monk mode. It feels like I'm in the anger face, but I don't feel mad, just feels like most of it is a waste of time.
Anyone else feels this way?

Lone_Ranger 3 2y ago
the solution is easy - stop going to bars and clubs. You only find rubbish in rubbish bin.
There is a moment in every mans life when he 'grows up'. For some it is at 22, could be at 40 or it could be a 55. The sooner you grow up, the sooner you can start you adult life.
You won't miss it. It's not actually 'fun' to go to loud expensive clubs and try on your best rizz with hostile and entitled bitches. Just say no. Turn your back on all that shit.
Live your life for you. Do the things that you want and need to do.
mattyanon Admin 2y ago
If the juice is not worth the squeeze, don't do it.
whytehorse2021 2y ago
Where are you picking up women? That's your problem right there. Hoes will date willy nilly and have nothing between their ears. Housewives will court for marriage. The two don't hang out in the same places.
koedeloe123 2y ago
I'm meeting women everywhere. Most trashy women are indeed from night game or online dating. But I've met countless of women through school, hobbies, friends, other events. It matters where you meet them, but even if you meet a cute girl at a BBQ from a mutual friend, you don't know how many guys she has been through.
whytehorse2021 2y ago
I had the same problem 20 years ago. Get your passport. Western women are for the streets. Stop wasting time.
Vermillion-Rx Admin 2y ago
Sounds like you are not getting a return on your investment. Sour grapes post. If you were slaying reliably you wouldn't be posting this for the most part.
Start with your problems and then go from there. You're putting in way more effort than you're getting out and I suspect you are making a lot of blunders leading to this experience and then getting frustrated
koedeloe123 2y ago
I'm definitely getting rejected, it's part of the game. But I've been redpilled for over 5 years now. Have been spinning plates for as long as I can remember, even before getting introduced to TRP.
Partly it's like you said. It's about getting a low return on your investment. Why should most guys jump through so many hoops, just to get some pussy? I sound like I'm catering towards MGTOW, I'd never go that route, because I like the company of women. But, there's no satisfaction anymore. How many girls have you fucked, who you didn't immediately want to kick out of your house after nutting? Maybe it's just me, but the satisfaction is gone.
Vermillion-Rx Admin 2y ago
You don't have to. I generally just screen for more interested girls. If they want circus monkey level investment I dip immediately. Good for mental health and then you still get the interested ones faster
Naturally happens when you've been drilling low quality women (not necessarily low SMV women) for a while where it never leads to anything serious
Pretty much all of them. I have a firm personal rule about not fucking women I wouldn't want to see again. So I can't relate, in turn down a lot of pussy because I know those ones would be a ONS for me. I just avoid that problem altogether and I like jt that way
Understable. But women are only as much of a waste of time as you waste on them. At this point you should probably aim for better women. I don't necessarily mean hotter, but BETTER
slowlylearning1 2y ago
You need to start aiming for better looking or status women.
I feel incredibly shallow these days. If a woman isn't attractive but boring, I'll say next to nothing to them or fain as little interest (unless they're geniuely nice or fun) yet if a pleasant but boring woman who's incredibly cute is talking, I'll be trying to charm them. Too many women (men too) are incredibly self obsessed and boring to listen to ; I can understand why you're thinking they're not worth it but what about even boring girls who you feel that burning attraction with?! The sexual chemistry when both lit can overcome the boringness There are fun, exciting women out there, they're often very attractive or high value. Find female athletes great fun and they're usually up for you leading and taking them on an adventure.
koedeloe123 2y ago
I think you hit the nail on the head. My game with better looking women is so much better, because I'm genuinely attracted. I was out for drinks with a 6/10 last week, and the date was so boring. It was because of me, because I wasn't interested in what she had to say. When I'm dating a dime, I'm genuinely interested, and it's better in every way.
Thank you, maybe I should stop hanging out with 6/7's. They just don't do it for me anymore.
Lone_Ranger 3 2y ago
Honest question dude - what are you on a scale of 1-10?
User4566 2y ago
I’ve read that guys find it much better to become a HVM and simply let the women come to you when you’re out and about. Doesn’t it sound better to buy a nice suit that your high paying job got you and show up to venues and have women choose you and WORK for you?
I wouldn’t know the feeling, but I’m sure that beats the hell out of chasing ass and doing all the work.
Edit: I’ll say this: meeting chicks at a shallow place like bars and clubs will result in meeting shallow bitches. You wouldn’t find a sweet book-worm chick there.
koedeloe123 2y ago
I get your point, and it does sound sweet. But in reality dimes never approach me. I've been approached by girls, but it were always average looking ones. I've approached lots of dimes, and I've been doing good in general, but it still makes me chase them in some way.
User4566 2y ago
Yeah, welcome to my world. Dimes don’t have to approach anyone because they’re already in demand. Average chicks approach me too because, well, they’re not really in demand and are likely overshadowed everywhere they go. But I will say this: hot women are actually much more friendly. The average chicks LOVE to “get back” at men by being super bitchy because men treat them like a last-resort.
I remember an average looking girl approach my friend outside the bar and her friends kind of gave her space between her and us. She got really offended when my buddy wasn’t interested and started asking if he was gay and all that childish shit.
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Durek_The_Bald 2y ago
Been a while since I was in that part of the game. But I don't remember women being this shitty. Boring, yes. Women have always been kinda boring and uninteresting, but not outright shitty and without value.
I wonder if it might be a location thing, or a generational thing. But then I see the young women at work, and they're all quite alright, friendly, conscientious etc. They mostly have boyfriends though.
Come to think of it, it's probably never been easier for a woman to find a quality guy to boyfriend up. So for them to even be "available on the market" in this day and age, is kinda pathetic in and of itself. If they're available a lot of the time, there are probably reasons for that.
financehardo420 2y ago
It’s our generation. TikTok instagram onlyfans lol. Lack of religion. I think it’s kinda like stock market; there’s up cycles and down cycles. Right now we’re in a down cycle in terms of morals; chicks have never been sluttier. Go on any college campus and avg body count unless they’re an 18yo freshman is 20+
koedeloe123 2y ago
Yup, the high value women are always in relationships. When they break up with a guy, they're in another relationship before you know it. The girls who are single for a while, always red flags. There's a reason why they're single.
Problematic_Browser 1 2y ago
I don't waste time trying to pick up women.
I take care of my business and exist. If a woman comes my way, cool - but I don't go out of my way to get them.
financehardo420 2y ago
I definitely resonate with this. I’ve just kinda learned to accept it; is what it is. I don’t prioritize getting laid over my grind.
But I do add it to my routine; much like going to the gym/eating a healthy diet. I feel like running a roster has increased my testosterone significantly and this helps me perform better in my day to day duties. As with all things in life moderation is key. Devote maybe 1-2 nights/week to going out w the boys and bagging birds/securing new leads. Spend rest of time grinding. Simple math.
Also you need a healthy dose of recreational use only mindset. Don’t expect any of these bar hoes that eat microwave pizza diets to be LTR/wifey material. Enjoy them for their beauty and ability to keep your balls drained; that’s ab all they’re good for g
koedeloe123 2y ago
I agree, your purpose should always come before getting laid. I'm going to start my own business in a few years, and will be spending most of my time on that. That's why I wonder how it's possible to keep up a rotation of 3-4 girls, while scouting for other girls.
Even when you go out 1-2 nights a week, it still feels like a waste of time to pick up chicks. Imagine working 70 hours a week on your purpose, just for some random girl to waste your time with stupid games.
financehardo420 2y ago
The way my pops would run it back in the day: each girl gets 1-2 hours a week n that’s it. Strictly business lol.
Even going out imo is a waste of time; you’re putting poison in your body and fucking up the gainz. Wake up all hungover and next day is heavily delayed.
You’re supposed to be awake 16-18 hours a day (assuming 6-8 hours of sleep). That gives you anywhere from 112-126 hours a week. Deduct like 14 hours for gym, deduct your 70+ for grind. Still leaves you 28-42 hours a week for other endeavors. Adjust as needed
Main point of getting new chicks = maintains abundance and makes it easy to replace a chick when she steps out of line. It’s always gonna be easier for girls to get laid than guys. Becoming high value and getting new chicks frequently just levels the playing field.
Plus rizzing is much like the gym; if you don’t use it you’ll lose it. Speaking from experience haha easy to slip and get rusty if you go too hard on the grind. Striking a balance is essential. Plus getting new shawties is like an excellent sales practice and any business/line of work ultimately relies on sales skills to convert potential clients into paying customers